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Wow do soldiers really think they are surperior to everyone else ....haha funny joke guys


I can't speak for every soldier to ever carry a rifle I can only speak for myself. It's not that I think I am superior to everyone I just dislike anyone but a soldier thinking they have the right to say anything about event they weren't there to see. You read the news and think you've gotten the entirety of the what,where,who,and why. When in fact all you've gotten is the view point of one news network. Until you have been there in some capacity, be it as a soldier, a diplomat, a red cross worker, and yes even as a reporter. Till you get that sand stuck in your skin and feel how cold a Northern Afghanistan night can be and how hot the days are I just believe you shouldn't say anything on the subject.

I am sorry if that offends your false sense of smugness or your childish and uninformed viewpoints but that is what I think. And even after I left the Afghanistan for the final time I still don't think I have too much of a right to speak of it. And the fact you lot think you can just waltz in the limelight and speak of the pros and cons of the mission as if you were there is insulting to me.
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Ryulightorb wrote:

Wow do soldiers really think they are surperior to everyone else ....haha funny joke guys


I can't speak for every soldier to ever carry a rifle I can only speak for myself. It's not that I think I am superior to everyone I just dislike anyone but a soldier thinking they have the right to say anything about event they weren't there to see. You read the news and think you've gotten the entirety of the what,where,who,and why. When in fact all you've gotten is the view point of one news network. Until you have been there in some capacity, be it as a soldier, a diplomat, a red cross worker, and yes even as a reporter. Till you get that sand stuck in your skin and feel how cold a Northern Afghanistan night can be and how hot the days are I just believe you shouldn't say anything on the subject.

I am sorry if that offends your false sense of smugness or your childish and uninformed viewpoints but that is what I think. And even after I left the Afghanistan for the final time I still don't think I have too much of a right to speak of it. And the fact you lot think you can just waltz in the limelight and speak of the pros and cons of the mission as if you were there is insulting to me.


well you acting like you are is insulting to me so works both ways.
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Posted 12/7/15

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well you acting like you are is insulting to me so works both ways.


Well I fail to see in what capacity I've insulted anyone here. I merely stated why you lot shouldn't act like know it alls concerning the pros and cons of the mission. It is not my fault if that hurts your false sense of pride, which is odd sense you shouldn't have a sense of pride concerning the mission.
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Ryulightorb wrote:


well you acting like you are is insulting to me so works both ways.


Well I fail to see in what capacity I've insulted anyone here. I merely stated why you lot shouldn't act like know it alls concerning the pros and cons of the mission. It is not my fault if that hurts your false sense of pride, which is odd sense you shouldn't have a sense of pride concerning the mission.


Just because you have been through it does not mean others who haven't been through it don't have valid points.

That's what is insulting just assuming people can't have valid points because they haven't actually fought in a war
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Just because you have been through it does not mean others who haven't been through it don't have valid points.

That's what is insulting just assuming people can't have valid points because they haven't actually fought in a war


How can any of the points you lot make be valid anyway? You didn't carry a rifle, drive a tank, fly a chopper, help the Red Cross treat sick locals, you didn't patch up wounded soldiers, you weren't a civil worker helping re-establish the local government, you didn't train the locals and turn them into soldiers. Hell I bet you didn't even carry a mic and a camera for a news network.

So with that in mind pray tell what body of knowledge would you be drawing from to make any of your points concerning the mission valid?
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Posted 12/7/15

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Ryulightorb wrote:



Just because you have been through it does not mean others who haven't been through it don't have valid points.

That's what is insulting just assuming people can't have valid points because they haven't actually fought in a war


How can any of the points you lot make be valid anyway? You didn't carry a rifle, drive a tank, fly a chopper, help the Red Cross treat sick locals, you didn't patch up wounded soldiers, you weren't a civil worker helping re-establish the local government, you didn't train the locals and turn them into soldiers. Hell I bet you didn't even carry a mic and a camera for a news network.

So with that in mind pray tell what body of knowledge would you be drawing from to make any of your points concerning the mission valid?


see and with that attitude you are ignoring valid points made by civilians that have just as much right to make them as someone in the army.
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see and with that attitude you are ignoring valid points made by civilians that have just as much right to make them as someone in the army.


Mate you're the one ignoring half what I just said in order to focus on the first point I made. I respect the points of civilians who were there, the Red Cross workers who helped out the Army docs to treat not only wounded soldiers but the locals as well. And the Red Cross workers who rode with the Army Convoys so they could help the locals who were outside the safe zone. This despite knowing a single IED could kill them, and did so in more then one case. I respect the UN and NATO diplomats who worked with the locals to establish a democratic government.

And these are just a handful of the civilians who were in Afghanistan, and none of them were in the Army. None of them carried a rifle and fought the enemy directly but they fought them using the tools they did had. And when one of them says something about the mission I listen. But you aren't one of those civilians, so why are you so offended when I say you have no right to act like you have a valid point to make? You after all have no base of knowledge and experience to work from.
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see and with that attitude you are ignoring valid points made by civilians that have just as much right to make them as someone in the army.


Mate you're the one ignoring half what I just said in order to focus on the first point I made. I respect the points of civilians who were there, the Red Cross workers who helped out the Army docs to treat not only wounded soldiers but the locals as well. And the Red Cross workers who rode with the Army Convoys so they could help the locals who were outside the safe zone. This despite knowing a single IED could kill them, and did so in more then one case. I respect the UN and NATO diplomats who worked with the locals to establish a democratic government.

And these are just a handful of the civilians who were in Afghanistan, and none of them were in the Army. None of them carried a rifle and fought the enemy directly but they fought them using the tools they did had. And when one of them says something about the mission I listen. But you aren't one of those civilians, so why are you so offended when I say you have no right to act like you have a valid point to make? You after all have no base of knowledge and experience to work from.


I don't need to have fought in a war to say my thoughts on war and how pointless it is a necessary but all the same pointless thing.

Wars are slowing down in the last century though statistically.

I have my opinions on war and i will keep them and they are no less valid then yours but if you disagree then that's your right to i won't argue against your beliefs man.

But others don't see things the same way as you .
Posted 12/8/15

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Yeah man. Are rights were totally being protected when we went in and invaded Iraq.



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Don't bother with the Iraq argument. I've already had this conversation with him and he still thinks that not only is it a good idea to invade other countries and go into all out war, he believes it's the only thing that should he done.


i agree with wolfguy, invading other countries is a great strategy, hit them before they hit us.. but saying "itsthe only thing that should be done" is kind of exaggerative & narrow minded. I dont understand war[the whole strategy board]; soldiers themselves don't either.

eh, wish i could've respected wolf longer, i always get disappointed.

imagine how much damage Izaya could do in war

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I don't need to have fought in a war to say my thoughts on war and how pointless it is a necessary but all the same pointless thing.

Wars are slowing down in the last century though statistically.

I have my opinions on war and i will keep them and they are no less valid then yours but if you disagree then that's your right to i won't argue against your beliefs man.

But others don't see things the same way as you .


I have no problems with opinions, as they can't be validated one way or the other. it's when the uninformed and inexperienced like yourself start making judgement calls you have no right to make is when I get pissed off.
Posted 12/8/15
I've not once been affected by terrorism. Well, there was that one incident with that paranoid schizophrenic christian crusader. But, nah, not really, not affected in the slightest. Oh, you mean muslims. Nah. They dress weird, walk weird, and talk weird, but that's really about it.

Oh, and then there's this shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOx6nfzrxFc
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Hrafna wrote:

I've not once been affected by terrorism. Well, there was that one incident with that paranoid schizophrenic christian crusader. But, nah, not really, not affected in the slightest. Oh, you mean muslims. Nah. They dress weird, walk weird, and talk weird, but that's really about it.

Oh, and then there's this shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOx6nfzrxFc


Who the hell said I considered the camel jockeys Muslim. They aren't any more followers of Islam then I am.
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Posted 12/8/15 , edited 12/8/15

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Ryulightorb wrote:


I don't need to have fought in a war to say my thoughts on war and how pointless it is a necessary but all the same pointless thing.

Wars are slowing down in the last century though statistically.

I have my opinions on war and i will keep them and they are no less valid then yours but if you disagree then that's your right to i won't argue against your beliefs man.

But others don't see things the same way as you .


I have no problems with opinions, as they can't be validated one way or the other. it's when the uninformed and inexperienced like yourself start making judgement calls you have no right to make is when I get pissed off.


I have every right to make a judgement call about war as you do if it's my country i get a say.

But i'm not American but in my country a civilian has a right to make judgement calls on war if they are informed i believe.

Then again that's just my opinion i don't think people need to have experience they just need to be informed enough to make a valid opinion and call.

Not everyone can just go get experience within a year or a few months and sometimes it's those people who have little experience who can make the right calls i believe.

I mean sure a soldier's judgement call about war should come first as he is trained in it however we shouldn't ignore the judgment that civilians make
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I have every right to make a judgement call about war as you do if it's my country i get a say.

But i'm not American but in my country a civilian has a right to make judgement calls on war if they are informed i believe.

Then again that's just my opinion i don't think people need to have experience they just need to be informed enough to make a valid opinion and call.

Not everyone can just go get experience within a year or a few months and sometimes it's those people who have little experience who can make the right calls i believe.

I mean sure a soldier's judgement call about war should come first as he is trained in it however we shouldn't ignore the judgment that civilians make


Again I ask what does give you the right to make a judgement call about something you actually know nothing about? You haven't seen or done anything that would make you the kind of person that should be passing judgement. I mean have you actually even left the country of your birth and walked amongst the locals of the Middle East, talked to them and eaten with them? Have you traded bullets with the mad men who call themselves men of Allah? Have you treated malnutrition and disease with the Red Cross?

Your birth entitles you to nothing but life, you have to earn the rest . And in my eyes you haven't earned the right to make a judgement call of this nature. For your entire argument is resting on the rights and privileges of men and women who have earned them. If this were something other topic besides the current one you may have had a valid point but it isn't.
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Ranwolf wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


I have every right to make a judgement call about war as you do if it's my country i get a say.

But i'm not American but in my country a civilian has a right to make judgement calls on war if they are informed i believe.

Then again that's just my opinion i don't think people need to have experience they just need to be informed enough to make a valid opinion and call.

Not everyone can just go get experience within a year or a few months and sometimes it's those people who have little experience who can make the right calls i believe.

I mean sure a soldier's judgement call about war should come first as he is trained in it however we shouldn't ignore the judgment that civilians make


Again I ask what does give you the right to make a judgement call about something you actually know nothing about? You haven't seen or done anything that would make you the kind of person that should be passing judgement. I mean have you actually even left the country of your birth and walked amongst the locals of the Middle East, talked to them and eaten with them? Have you traded bullets with the mad men who call themselves men of Allah? Have you treated malnutrition and disease with the Red Cross?

Your birth entitles you to nothing but life, you have to earn the rest . And in my eyes you haven't earned the right to make a judgement call of this nature. For your entire argument is resting on the rights and privileges of men and women who have earned them. If this were something other topic besides the current one you may have had a valid point but it isn't.


People shouldn't be forced to go through war to have to make judgements for it if they have the knowledge.

I'm not going to ever go in the army but i have a right to say if a war is a bad idea or not :P
I don't need to join the army to earn that privilege.
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