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I dont get how some dont care about others as far as not having a conscience and no respect or regard for others , only care about themselves but i do understand how people feel that they have enough of their own problems to constantly help others.


If someone has there own problems i can 100% agree to them being not willing to help, me being who i am will push my own problems aside to help someone and at times it seems stupid, but i don't feel right if i turn my back on someone like that



Yep iam am/was the same but if you end up with some of the people that i have had in my life it will change you. Not 100% but it will.
Wait until your older and have your problems and responsibilities and less time. You'll see.
But hopefully you dont end up going through some of what i did.


I've been through a lot of crap in my short time but stuff seems to be turning up for me now and i can't be more thankful to the very few people I have in my life who were willing to help me, I've been abused and used because i am too willing to help but i really don't even care, because in the end that person has to live with what they did and i know that my conscience is clear so :P
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It's not whenever people care or not because secretly they generally do care but have a wall separating this emotion from what they're ready to accept to care. Your friends really just did a cost benefit analysis on the situation and came to the conclusion that they'd rather not get involved. Humans aren't selfless, they're all selfish.
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Freddy96NO wrote:


MrAnimeSK wrote: But hopefully you dont end up going through some of what i did.
take this!





Thank you for loving D-Frag!
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GrandMasterTime wrote:

It's not whenever people care or not because secretly they generally do care but have a wall separating this emotion from what they're ready to accept to care. Your friends really just did a cost benefit analysis on the situation and came to the conclusion that they'd rather not get involved. Humans aren't selfless, they're all selfish.


I try to be selfless and not selfish it just pains me that people would rather be selfish all the time. Others health > mine IMO
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GrandMasterTime wrote:

It's not whenever people care or not because secretly they generally do care but have a wall separating this emotion from what they're ready to accept to care. Your friends really just did a cost benefit analysis on the situation and came to the conclusion that they'd rather not get involved. Humans aren't selfless, they're all selfish.


I try to be selfless and not selfish it just pains me that people would rather be selfish all the time. Others health > mine IMO


I agree with that so much

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GrandMasterTime wrote:

It's not whenever people care or not because secretly they generally do care but have a wall separating this emotion from what they're ready to accept to care. Your friends really just did a cost benefit analysis on the situation and came to the conclusion that they'd rather not get involved. Humans aren't selfless, they're all selfish.


I try to be selfless and not selfish it just pains me that people would rather be selfish all the time. Others health > mine IMO


Can't really disagree with that; if you're selfless then I guess that's that.
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I respect your selflessness; but I think it's pretty difficult for people in general to have empathy for those with whom they don't have a personal connection. Humans are social animals, but I think it's important to temper that with a little individuality. I think it's healthy to be a bit selfish and look out for one's own well being.
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lilliputianliar wrote:

I respect your selflessness; but I think it's pretty difficult for people in general to have empathy for those with whom they don't have a personal connection. Humans are social animals, but I think it's important to temper that with a little individuality. I think it's healthy to be a bit selfish and look out for one's own well being.


I agree but I find it hard to think about myself when there is someone, especially a friend who is having a hard time
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i dont like your attidude void have some respect PLZ
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Two things:

Ryulightorb wrote:
i told them i liked them (which is half true) to stop them from hurting themselves or worse which they were doing.

Is it possible they didn't care because they had an intuitive feel for your half-assed, baseless moralizing?

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What's wrong about never wanting to give up even if the situation is impossible to fix and caring about people whether you know them or not ....

Taking action to produce an undesirable outcome is practically the definition of irrationality. If a situation is "impossible to fix" then, I would say, it has an undesirable outcome. To answer your question of what's wrong with that, I would simply posit that irrationality is generally considered bad of itself. If a particular outcome is impossible to achieve, then trying to achieve it is idiotic. I think your problem is not that trying to fix an impossible-to-fix-situation is good, but rather that you don't think the situation is impossible, in which case your friend(s) will probably need more evidence than just your reassurances that they're in the wrong. As to caring about someone whether you know them or not, this is something I am generally against. To say that you care about them regardless of what qualities they have means that, in essence, everything that makes them "them" is replaceable. In fact, I'd say that "unconditional caring," in a manner of speaking, is to show that you don't care about them at all. They could, in fact, be anyone or anything -- who they are is irrelevant to your caring for them and thus, you don't actually care about who they are. You care about caring, but not the person. This is why telling someone you don't know "I care about you" reeks of bullshit to the listener.


One further thought. In a vague, weak sense, I think I care about everyone. Point at any random person on the street, and I can say "All other things equal, I hope their life goes well for them." This is caring, in a sense. However, most of the time "all other things" are not equal. For instance, if killing people is what makes your life go well, then I hope your life sucks. Most of my interactions with people are some place in between these two. For people I don't know, they get little more than that first 'basic' feeling of caring I mentioned. However, the more I know them, the more I understand what sort of things and what sort of goals they set in order to 'make their life go well' for them. In so doing, they reveal what sort of place they hold in the achievement of my desires. Someone who enjoys talking philosophy will constitute a larger portion of my caring than someone who enjoys, to take one example, shouting bible verses at me for an hour straight. There may be other things about each person that justify or condemn my caring about them, but I can only do so insofar as I know some things about them. The only reason people get the 'basic' state of caring is because the only thing I know about them is that they're human. I don't care about rocks, generally, because rocks, generally, have little impact on my life. I care about them insofar as they can make buildings, or provide somewhere to stand, but other than that, I don't quite give a shit. Humans have enough about them, however, to warrant a basic well-wishing, and they are sufficiently against my goals to warrant no more than this without further knowledge.
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theYchromosome wrote:

Two things:

Ryulightorb wrote:
i told them i liked them (which is half true) to stop them from hurting themselves or worse which they were doing.

Is it possible they didn't care because they had an intuitive feel for your half-assed, baseless moralizing?

Ryulightorb wrote:
What's wrong about never wanting to give up even if the situation is impossible to fix and caring about people whether you know them or not ....

Taking action to produce an undesirable outcome is practically the definition of irrationality. If a situation is "impossible to fix" then, I would say, it has an undesirable outcome. To answer your question of what's wrong with that, I would simply posit that irrationality is generally considered bad of itself. If a particular outcome is impossible to achieve, then trying to achieve it is idiotic. I think your problem is not that trying to fix an impossible-to-fix-situation is good, but rather that you don't think the situation is impossible, in which case your friend(s) will probably need more evidence than just your reassurances that they're in the wrong. As to caring about someone whether you know them or not, this is something I am generally against. To say that you care about them regardless of what qualities they have means that, in essence, everything that makes them "them" is replaceable. In fact, I'd say that "unconditional caring," in a manner of speaking, is to show that you don't care about them at all. They could, in fact, be anyone or anything -- who they are is irrelevant to your caring for them and thus, you don't actually care about who they are. You care about caring, but not the person. This is why telling someone you don't know "I care about you" reeks of bullshit to the listener.


One further thought. In a vague, weak sense, I think I care about everyone. Point at any random person on the street, and I can say "All other things equal, I hope their life goes well for them." This is caring, in a sense. However, most of the time "all other things" are not equal. For instance, if killing people is what makes your life go well, then I hope your life sucks. Most of my interactions with people are some place in between these two. For people I don't know, they get little more than that first 'basic' feeling of caring I mentioned. However, the more I know them, the more I understand what sort of things and what sort of goals they set in order to 'make their life go well' for them. In so doing, they reveal what sort of place they hold in the achievement of my desires. Someone who enjoys talking philosophy will constitute a larger portion of my caring than someone who enjoys, to take one example, shouting bible verses at me for an hour straight. There may be other things about each person that justify or condemn my caring about them, but I can only do so insofar as I know some things about them. The only reason people get the 'basic' state of caring is because the only thing I know about them is that they're human. I don't care about rocks, generally, because rocks, generally, have little impact on my life. I care about them insofar as they can make buildings, or provide somewhere to stand, but other than that, I don't quite give a shit. Humans have enough about them, however, to warrant a basic well-wishing, and they are sufficiently against my goals to warrant no more than this without further knowledge.


They believed me and calmed down a bit i think i may be wrong though.

I do care about them because i feel a more personal connection to them then a random person that being said if it was a random person i would want to befriend them and get to know them...but that's because of who i am as a person.

But you make good points.


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what's up with you now mate?
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Human nature?
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