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I understand you statement is a joke on how far he would go, but when it comes to his supporters... after hearing the things they say and seeing the comments they make, I think it something they actually would do.


To be fair, people that actually go to a rally tend to be a bit crazier (passionate some call it) than a mere supporter of a candidate. Every candidate has them. You'll just see certain ones more often depending on how the media wants to portay someone.

But yeah, nothing would surprise me from those people.
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Wasp-Zero wrote:

Trump does inherently great. He knows his audience (crazy far right, and fringe groups and believers.) and he plays on and to them and their fears, cares, worries and concerns. In all honesty he is good at the game of politics, as much as I hate to say it. However these things doǹt make him even remotely close to ̂good̂, however he is a great wall for the other GOP candidates to have to climb over and has been great at getting candidates on either side to lay down decisive comments and policies, which had been lacking for several elections.


What if Trump's plan all along has been to cause the other candidates to be decisive about their comments and policies? All of this is just an act by him. Maybe he doesn't really want to run for President. He is in a sense "grooming" the other candidates to make them presidential material. So he is demeaning himself so America can have a truly great President. You know "Make America Great Again". It all makes sense now...........Now if he was actually trying to do this he is indeed a genius.





Ìm not sure he is entirely serious about running, it could be some kind of odd ̂groominĝ or maybe like ̂yeah I could but I woǹt.̂.
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Just gonna post this video cause i feel like it:
http://www.dorkly.com/post/76741/he-wants-to-build-a-wall-around-the-death-star

(Btw my first post on these forums lol)
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xX_Dave_Xx wrote:

Just gonna post this video cause i feel like it:
http://www.dorkly.com/post/76741/he-wants-to-build-a-wall-around-the-death-star

(Btw my first post on these forums lol)


Trump for Pres after watching this.











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Well I will just put it this way if you replace the word Jew with every time he says Muslim you can actually hear a little Hitler in him. But then this is how it starts they came for the Muslims first then the gays then the labor movement and then me when there was no one left to defend us.

No amount of guns by the way would have protected the Jews from the Nazis history shows this the event you miss is the Warsaw ghetto revolt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto_Uprising learn history or repeat it. Also by your logic it would be the Muslims in this case that should be armed since they are the oppressed religion. Funny how your own logic come s back to bit you in the ass.

The only thing you have to fear is fear itself truer words never spoken if you fear you lose reason and power and give it to those who will abuse it. Those who use fear to lead are not leaders they just seek power to use against you.

With credit to Dr. Lawrence Britt since you all don't understand what real fascism is here are the warning signs you will note that these are all things those on the right do not the left. On the political spectrum fascism is on the right now the left stop scapegoating and wake up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

The 14 characteristics are:
Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

Supremacy of the Military
Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

Rampant Sexism
The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

Controlled Mass Media
Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

Obsession with National Security
Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

Religion and Government are Intertwined
Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

Corporate Power is Protected
The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

Labor Power is Suppressed
Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .

Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

Fraudulent Elections
Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
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HuastecoOtaku wrote:

I wonder who is going to go after next?
Gays?


gays will always be welcomed a lot of Wall Street executives and other supper wealthy people who control the government are gay.
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One day we'll all look back at this and have a good laugh.
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I'm not even comfortable with banning travel to certain regions. Do we ban travel to certain regions? Seems like a workable idea to me. Might not prevent people from joining ISIS, but it is irresponsible to not somehow impede as much as we can, right? I have no idea how air laws work. I played that game where you are a plague and if you cause enough deaths the airports are shut down. It's called pandemic 2.
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Well I will just put it this way if you replace the word Jew with every time he says Muslim you can actually hear a little Hitler in him. But then this is how it starts they came for the Muslims first then the gays then the labor movement and then me when there was no one left to defend us.

No amount of guns by the way would have protected the Jews from the Nazis history shows this the event you miss is the Warsaw ghetto revolt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto_Uprising learn history or repeat it. Also by your logic it would be the Muslims in this case that should be armed since they are the oppressed religion. Funny how your own logic come s back to bit you in the ass.

The only thing you have to fear is fear itself truer words never spoken if you fear you lose reason and power and give it to those who will abuse it. Those who use fear to lead are not leaders they just seek power to use against you.

With credit to Dr. Lawrence Britt since you all don't understand what real fascism is here are the warning signs you will note that these are all things those on the right do not the left. On the political spectrum fascism is on the right now the left stop scapegoating and wake up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

The 14 characteristics are:
Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

Supremacy of the Military
Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

Rampant Sexism
The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

Controlled Mass Media
Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

Obsession with National Security
Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

Religion and Government are Intertwined
Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

Corporate Power is Protected
The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

Labor Power is Suppressed
Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .

Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

Fraudulent Elections
Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.


Some of these happened in left-wing countries just as much. Specifically communist countries.

Or did you want to say the USSR did and North Korea does not have "constant nationalism", "fraudulent elections", "rampant corruption", "huge oversized military" ?
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I'm not even comfortable with banning travel to certain regions. Do we ban travel to certain regions? Seems like a workable idea to me. Might not prevent people from joining ISIS, but it is irresponsible to not somehow impede as much as we can, right? I have no idea how air laws work. I played that game where you are a plague and if you cause enough deaths the airports are shut down. It's called pandemic 2.


I used to play pandemic. Always found I needed to infect Madagascar early on.
Posted 12/8/15

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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

I'm not even comfortable with banning travel to certain regions. Do we ban travel to certain regions? Seems like a workable idea to me. Might not prevent people from joining ISIS, but it is irresponsible to not somehow impede as much as we can, right? I have no idea how air laws work. I played that game where you are a plague and if you cause enough deaths the airports are shut down. It's called pandemic 2.


I used to play pandemic. Always found I needed to infect Madagascar early on.


Indeed. Madagascar is the bane of my existence. Been playing Infectonator or whatsit. So found.
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Whenever somebody brings up Pandemic 2 someone will mention Madagascar...
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:


xX_Dave_Xx wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

I'm not even comfortable with banning travel to certain regions. Do we ban travel to certain regions? Seems like a workable idea to me. Might not prevent people from joining ISIS, but it is irresponsible to not somehow impede as much as we can, right? I have no idea how air laws work. I played that game where you are a plague and if you cause enough deaths the airports are shut down. It's called pandemic 2.


I used to play pandemic. Always found I needed to infect Madagascar early on.


Indeed. Madagascar is the bane of my existence. Been playing Infectonator or whatsit. So found. :)


But if you get Madagascar then you don't get Greenland
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brookline wrote:


HuastecoOtaku wrote:

I wonder who is going to go after next?
Gays?


gays will always be welcomed a lot of Wall Street executives and other supper wealthy people who control the government are gay.


Closet homosexuals.
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Posted 12/8/15
Trump is a chump.

He keeps coming up with people he "hates" and still does business with them. He only respects our rights when its in his interests (free speech, free religion).

Look if you want to continue being at war forever elect him, personally I'm not going to. There are many other less stupid choices.
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