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Posted 12/8/15 , edited 12/8/15

PeripheralVisionary wrote:

I can't validate this, but I sincerely believe most Christians have not read the bible. .


Or, that only atheists and religion-bashers read the Old Testament:

Basher: "Like it says in the Bible, 'An eye for an eye'!"
Protestant: "Oh, it does not, where does it say that?"
Basher: "Leviticus!"
Protestant: "Oh, that, the Jewish part, big deal.... "
Posted 12/8/15 , edited 12/8/15

Ejanss wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

I can't validate this, but I sincerely believe most Christians have not read the bible. .


Or, that only atheists and religion-bashers read the Old Testament:

"Like it says in the Bible, 'An eye for an eye'!"
"Oh, it does not, where does it say that?"
"Leviticus!"
"Oh, that, the Jewish part.... "


So what, God just changed his mind and said "Well, I made a mistake, time to begin anew" ? Basically invalidating his first book as BS or inaccurate? Is God that fickle?

So basically, if you cite the Old Testament, your claim is BS if it conflicts with the New?


Damn, you're one of the most infuriating forumers on the forum.
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Every time I see the title I read it as Quarian..
Posted 12/8/15

Somewhat_Insane_Monkey wrote:

Every time I see the title I read it as Quarian..


Is it Quran or Koran?
Posted 12/8/15

jesuswasanigger wrote:

Every word of the bible is true, it was written by god and anyone who doesn't believe it deserves the hell they are going to.


That's what's funny, is that it's so true
Posted 12/8/15 , edited 12/8/15

jesuswasanigger wrote:

Every word of the bible is true, it was written by god and anyone who doesn't believe it deserves the hell they are going to.


( sees username) Oh my..
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Somewhat_Insane_Monkey wrote:

Every time I see the title I read it as Quarian..


Is it Quran or Koran?


Quran, Quarians are an alien species in Mass Effect
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:


Ejanss wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

I can't validate this, but I sincerely believe most Christians have not read the bible. .


Or, that only atheists and religion-bashers read the Old Testament:

"Like it says in the Bible, 'An eye for an eye'!"
"Oh, it does not, where does it say that?"
"Leviticus!"
"Oh, that, the Jewish part.... "


So what, God just changed his mind and said "Well, I made a mistake, time to begin anew" ? Basically invalidating his first book as BS or inaccurate? Is God that fickle?

So basically, if you cite the Old Testament, your claim is BS if it conflicts with the New?


Damn, you're one of the most infuriating forumers on the forum.


I'm not Christian and you're not understanding the point of the OT laws and Jesus. I'd chuck out a few verses but they'll get reported as I'll sound preachy (Even while not being a Christian), The first issue with what you said is "his first book", the OT is a collection of Judeo texts, so multiple books. Further on you seem to believe the moral beliefs of the Judeo-Christian god change in the NT; I'd disagree greatly as the father (The person you know from the OT), the son (Know him from NT but is referred to in the OT) and the holy spirit are the same god, different beings though.
Posted 12/8/15 , edited 12/8/15

GrandMasterTime wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:


Ejanss wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

I can't validate this, but I sincerely believe most Christians have not read the bible. .


Or, that only atheists and religion-bashers read the Old Testament:

"Like it says in the Bible, 'An eye for an eye'!"
"Oh, it does not, where does it say that?"
"Leviticus!"
"Oh, that, the Jewish part.... "


So what, God just changed his mind and said "Well, I made a mistake, time to begin anew" ? Basically invalidating his first book as BS or inaccurate? Is God that fickle?

So basically, if you cite the Old Testament, your claim is BS if it conflicts with the New?


Damn, you're one of the most infuriating forumers on the forum.


I'm not Christian and you're not understanding the point of the OT laws and Jesus. I'd chuck out a few verses but they'll get reported as I'll sound preachy (Even while not being a Christian), The first issue with what you said is "his first book", the OT is a collection of Judeo texts, so multiple books. Further on you seem to believe the moral beliefs of the Judeo-Christian god change in the NT; I'd disagree greatly as the father (The person you know from the OT), the son (Know him from NT but is referred to in the OT) and the holy spirit are the same god, different beings though.


I'm merely asking question to further add to my understanding. Ejanss statement lead me to believe that quoting or believing in the old testament is a fools errand from my understanding. I don't claim to be an expert, but could you clarify what you're saying? Are you saying the OT is the foundation for the NT and thus needs to be considered into your belief as a Christian? Is it invalid to quote the OT in such as story for biases and such? All I want to know is to see if this is a legitimate experiment and to what extent.
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:
Edit: Don't see why anyone would report it. No arguments have sprouted nor do I believe it is in the wrong place. Religious discussions aren't chit chat ya know, they belong in general.


I've cleared the report, and will take a look at recent posts.

However, I would like you, Sagenaruto68 , to provide some context in your opening post. Please add a brief summary of what the video is, and what your opinion is, and something to prompt useful discussion.
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lorreen wrote: Please add a brief summary of what the video is,
an test about bible as quran (< cover) then say something "then how do you think the bible is in comperson"
then show its the bible and not the quran so they are going to be suprised or hope so.
else nothing with bad intent in the video

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lorreen wrote: Please add a brief summary of what the video is,
an test about bible as quran (< cover) then say something "then how do you think the bible is in comperson"
then show its the bible and not the quran so they are going to be suprised or hope so.
else nothing with bad intent in the video



Right, someone else did say that in another post. I want Sagenaruto to add a brief statement like that to the opening post.
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Posted 12/8/15 , edited 12/8/15

PeripheralVisionary wrote:


GrandMasterTime wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:


Ejanss wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

I can't validate this, but I sincerely believe most Christians have not read the bible. .


Or, that only atheists and religion-bashers read the Old Testament:

"Like it says in the Bible, 'An eye for an eye'!"
"Oh, it does not, where does it say that?"
"Leviticus!"
"Oh, that, the Jewish part.... "


So what, God just changed his mind and said "Well, I made a mistake, time to begin anew" ? Basically invalidating his first book as BS or inaccurate? Is God that fickle?

So basically, if you cite the Old Testament, your claim is BS if it conflicts with the New?


Damn, you're one of the most infuriating forumers on the forum.


I'm not Christian and you're not understanding the point of the OT laws and Jesus. I'd chuck out a few verses but they'll get reported as I'll sound preachy (Even while not being a Christian), The first issue with what you said is "his first book", the OT is a collection of Judeo texts, so multiple books. Further on you seem to believe the moral beliefs of the Judeo-Christian god change in the NT; I'd disagree greatly as the father (The person you know from the OT), the son (Know him from NT but is referred to in the OT) and the holy spirit are the same god, different beings though.


I'm merely asking question to further add to my understanding. Ejanss statement lead me to believe that quoting or believing in the old testament is a fools errand from my understanding. I don't claim to be an expert, but could you clarify what you're saying? Are you saying the OT is the foundation for the NT and thus needs to be considered into your belief as a Christian? Is it invalid to quote the OT in such as story for biases and such? All I want to know is to see if this is a legitimate experiment and to what extent.


Basically this is how it works, OT is full of stories, such as origin, how the Jewish people came to be, how the old covenant was established between god and the Jews, how the Jews screwed over god and god punished them and prophets going on about how the Jews will once against be saved by this half man, half god and also a lot of ritual stuff to do with sacrifices (Not human lol). This is where the NT comes in (People would also consider Islam to break off from here as well), Jesus is basically a human sacrifice for the sins of humanity, he does that and establishes a new covenant. That a good summary? The later parts of the NT are basically the establishment of the early church and the last book is the prophecy for end times.
Posted 12/8/15

GrandMasterTime wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:


GrandMasterTime wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:


Ejanss wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

I can't validate this, but I sincerely believe most Christians have not read the bible. .


Or, that only atheists and religion-bashers read the Old Testament:

"Like it says in the Bible, 'An eye for an eye'!"
"Oh, it does not, where does it say that?"
"Leviticus!"
"Oh, that, the Jewish part.... "


So what, God just changed his mind and said "Well, I made a mistake, time to begin anew" ? Basically invalidating his first book as BS or inaccurate? Is God that fickle?

So basically, if you cite the Old Testament, your claim is BS if it conflicts with the New?


Damn, you're one of the most infuriating forumers on the forum.


I'm not Christian and you're not understanding the point of the OT laws and Jesus. I'd chuck out a few verses but they'll get reported as I'll sound preachy (Even while not being a Christian), The first issue with what you said is "his first book", the OT is a collection of Judeo texts, so multiple books. Further on you seem to believe the moral beliefs of the Judeo-Christian god change in the NT; I'd disagree greatly as the father (The person you know from the OT), the son (Know him from NT but is referred to in the OT) and the holy spirit are the same god, different beings though.


I'm merely asking question to further add to my understanding. Ejanss statement lead me to believe that quoting or believing in the old testament is a fools errand from my understanding. I don't claim to be an expert, but could you clarify what you're saying? Are you saying the OT is the foundation for the NT and thus needs to be considered into your belief as a Christian? Is it invalid to quote the OT in such as story for biases and such? All I want to know is to see if this is a legitimate experiment and to what extent.


Basically this is how it works, OT is full of stories, such as origin, how the Jewish people came to be, how the old covenant was established between god and the Jews, how the Jews screwed over god and god punished them and prophets going on about how the Jews will once against be saved by this half man, half god and also a lot of ritual stuff to do with sacrifices (Not human lol). This is where the NT comes in (People would also consider Islam to break off from here as well), Jesus is basically a human sacrifice for the sins of humanity, he does that and establishes a new covenant. That a good summary? The later parts of the NT are basically the establishment of the early church and the last book is the prophecy for end times.


Ehhhh, so you're saying that the Old Testament is not to be taken literally? Thus my point about most Christians not reading said book are invalid? Interesting.
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lorreen wrote:


Freddy96NO wrote:


lorreen wrote: Please add a brief summary of what the video is,
an test about bible as quran (< cover) then say something "then how do you think the bible is in comperson"
then show its the bible and not the quran so they are going to be suprised or hope so.
else nothing with bad intent in the video



Right, someone else did say that in another post. I want Sagenaruto to add a brief statement like that to the opening post.


Hey Lorreen just for clarification are my posts over the top or preachy sounding, I mean they seem a little off topic but I was just answering a question. Just don't want to get into trouble and all.
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