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Posted 12/10/15 , edited 12/11/15
Hmm I went to a school for drop-outs and failures (clever marketing made it seem like a good school) so I always ended up doing the brunt of the work by virtue of having more than 5 brain cells. Never had it gone to that extent. ive had people throw me under the bus before, but not in relation to school.

I'm about to start school to be a PO so I'll get back If any of these uptight holier than thou dip shits causes any problems.

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That Lily person isn't very smart. All you had to do was produce the work you did and ask for her to do the same in front of the professor and her claim would of been debunk. Even not considering any punishment handed out for academic dishonesty from a legal sense she slandered you, caused you duress and cost you time at your job. Silly kids today with their text messaging and emails need to realize these are written records. It wouldn't shock me if these written conversations were enough to prove your position especially if there were emails that said you finished x, y and z and she replied.

Honestly you should of thrown her under the bus as well so that she realizes the consequences and is less likely to do it in the future.

I usually don't have these issues as I normally act as group manager and know how to put pressure on people to get things done, If they aren't as capable as others I can always find something for them to do so they are at least somewhat productive.
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This goes back 10 years when I was attending a high school in Kingwood,TX. as an evacuee. My animal sciences class was assigned a group project, and we were allowed to choose our groups. I was the last one to do so, and I needed the teacher to put together a group for me. There were only two other guys who weren't in groups, so I was placed withe them. The teacher apologized and told me I was getting a raw deal. Turns out that these were quite possibly the laziest doofuses I have ever met. They did absolutely nothing while I had to handle the entire project. I did all the research, put together the diagram and gave a 15 minute presentation in front of the class by myself while the two goons stood in the background and collected dust. I had only been there a week, so I didn't know what I was getting into.
Posted 12/10/15
Working in teams is the worst! In my biology class we got assigned into groups of 5 to do a diabetes project and how it relates to socioeconomic status. Anyways, this one chick would not do the work, meet up to discuss things, or anything! It was a burden to us all.
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Posted 12/10/15 , edited 12/10/15
See this is why I joined the army, never a lick of teamwork issues with a clear chain of command and judicial authority invested in a single superior officer. Honestly you civilian types need to stop bitching about teamwork and simply run your places of business like an army runs itself.
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The worst teammates I've had were simply incompetent. They didn't actually cause that much trouble.

The worst one lost the only copy of our play so we couldn't turn in a copy even though we turned in a video. Cost us a letter grade on the group project but a B isn't bad.
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HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

Makes me glad I was a Math major. Mathematicians, basically, work alone. Even when you're doing research, you may have discussions about it or look at each others work but, basically, all the heavy lifting is done by yourself. It's wonderful.

I remember taking a Psychology course -- I went in, sat down, the professor talks about herself a bit, and then hands out the syllabus. I look at said syllabus, find out there's 2 group projects, and immediately walk out of the room, go online, and drop the class. I made it through college without a single one of those bastards. In fact, I think I may not have had one in my last year of High School either, but I could be remembering wrong.

I would say I hate groupwork by nature, but really, if you're working with a talented group of people on something you all care about, it can be a lot of fun. Unfortunately, undergraduate students in the US are usually neither talented nor interested, so in general, group-work blows. Graduate school is nice though. You still have to teach those bastards, but it's better than having to work with them.


Ranwolf wrote:

See this is why I joined the army, never a lick of teamwork issues with a clear chain of command and judicial authority invested in a single superior officer. Honestly you civilian types need to stop bitching about teamwork and simply run your places of business like an army runs itself.


Yeah, and then instead of bitching about teamwork, you can bitch about how much your superiors suck, and how the Army would be so much better if they shoved off. I know more than a few in the military, at least enough to know that bitching about dumb superiors is practically a pastime. I fail to see how this is an improvement.

Really, this problem goes away in Grad school, where just about everyone is interested, and at least talented enough to be accepted to the school. Then, we stop bitching about teamwork, and begin bitching about incompetence -- when we have the chance. At least in my field, research is generally done by yourself, so we don't really get a chance to rely on the good nature of our peers.

Frankly, if Universities were run like the Army -- if Professors were told what they must research, what things they can study, what things they can't, etc. the creative faculties of our researchers would be vastly undermined. Creative people, generally, get the best results when they can do something they are interested in, and this is undermined when they are ordered to do it. The more creativity is required of the individuals in a business, the more an "Army-like model" of discipline would be shitty business model. Although I won't argue that it's better for some fields.
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Posted 12/10/15
damn you went with this right after I wanted to revive ethic's and moral in the working place -__-
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Posted 12/10/15 , edited 12/10/15

gildiin wrote:

That Lily person isn't very smart. All you had to do was produce the work you did and ask for her to do the same in front of the professor and her claim would of been debunk. Even not considering any punishment handed out for academic dishonesty from a legal sense she slandered you, caused you duress and cost you time at your job. Silly kids today with their text messaging and emails need to realize these are written records. It wouldn't shock me if these written conversations were enough to prove your position especially if there were emails that said you finished x, y and z and she replied.

Honestly you should of thrown her under the bus as well so that she realizes the consequences and is less likely to do it in the future.

I usually don't have these issues as I normally act as group manager and know how to put pressure on people to get things done, If they aren't as capable as others I can always find something for them to do so they are at least somewhat productive.

I suppose, both Jake and I weren't out for blood though, just pissed the fuck off. We only said what was needed to the professor and in Peer Reviews. The thing about working in these fields is these sorts of things happen. Most are pretty tolerant of others, after all, most of the team was fine to work with--it was just the chicks. Again.

I have a shit luck with women in my engineering groups. The last project I worked on had two buddies of mine and two chicks. Again, the guys and I did most of the work, but the chicks cornered me in a design lab unexpectedly one day and asked for my help to downgrade my friends. The reasons they gave included vulgarity, 'they hurt my schedule boohoo' and lies. I don't think they had the brains enough to realize the guys were buddies of mine. I told the guys, we got the professor involved and we also prevented them from taking credit in the reports for shit they didn't do.

I fucking hate drama in my work. That was probably the worst part of this happening. I was lowering my guard right at the fuckin' end...




geauxtigers1989 wrote:

This goes back 10 years when I was attending a high school in Kingwood,TX. as an evacuee. My animal sciences class was assigned a group project, and we were allowed to choose our groups. I was the last one to do so, and I needed the teacher to put together a group for me. There were only two other guys who weren't in groups, so I was placed withe them. The teacher apologized and told me I was getting a raw deal. Turns out that these were quite possibly the laziest doofuses I have ever met. They did absolutely nothing while I had to handle the entire project. I did all the research, put together the diagram and gave a 15 minute presentation in front of the class by myself while the two goons stood in the background and collected dust. I had only been there a week, so I didn't know what I was getting into.


I'm usually that person too. 'Who doesn't have a group?' Fuck. Me. It does unfortunately yield incompetent teammates more often than not.


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HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

Makes me glad I was a Math major. Mathematicians, basically, work alone. Even when you're doing research, you may have discussions about it or look at each others work but, basically, all the heavy lifting is done by yourself. It's wonderful.

I remember taking a Psychology course -- I went in, sat down, the professor talks about herself a bit, and then hands out the syllabus. I look at said syllabus, find out there's 2 group projects, and immediately walk out of the room, go online, and drop the class. I made it through college without a single one of those bastards. In fact, I think I may not have had one in my last year of High School either, but I could be remembering wrong.

I would say I hate groupwork by nature, but really, if you're working with a talented group of people on something you all care about, it can be a lot of fun. Unfortunately, undergraduate students in the US are usually neither talented nor interested, so in general, group-work blows. Graduate school is nice though. You still have to teach those bastards, but it's better than having to work with them.


I love and prefer working alone as well. You're right though that it entirely depends on whether you're working with talented and dedicated individuals though. I've had a couple groups where I've worked with fucking awesome partners. Jake was great to work with as well. He had a much stronger suit in electrical engineering than I did, but I was able to code a lot faster than he was. It was a great combination and we managed to get shit done because we balanced out our weaknesses.

Plus, the best engineering projects are always a result of multiple ambitious individuals coming together to design and build something really spectacular.

I prefer working alone, but in good conditions I don't mind working in groups, sometimes I might even enjoy it.

I don't plan on going to graduate school unless an employer pays for it. I'll probably just focus on certifications and making money right now. I do imagine the environment is different, but it really depends sometimes.
Posted 12/10/15
School. Never cared for group projects. Never expected anything from anyone, and didn't care to live up to theirs.

Military. Never cared for what my superiors said, orders or otherwise. Second sergeant I had and my squad leader later on had more respect from me than my lieutenant, captains, or major.

Work. Do as I say.
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Posted 12/11/15 , edited 12/11/15
Similar thing happened to me this semester in my senior level Operations Research class. (This class being Mathematicians and Industrial Engineers)

So we had one big final project due that started around the beginning of November. It was just me and another mathematician, but a week into the project, the professor asked if we wanted to add another person (Industrial Engineer) to our group. Which is where we should have refused immediately, but we didn't since we figured we could use an extra body to help with the project. Yeah.........
Long story short, a total stranger would have been just as helpful (actually a total stranger would have been better), since this person clearly didn't have a clue of what the material in the class was.

I honestly hate using emails at this point. This was the literal conversation concerning his part of the final paper.
On the day that everything is due, I had already finished and sent all of my stuff to the Team Leader (other Mathematician). This guy waited to the last minute.

Him : Sends his "final" paper to me to be checked and ok'd before sending it to the Team Leader.
Me : "Here are all the changes/additions you need for your part of the paper." Sends the list of things which are in numerical order.
Him : Sends his revised paper, changes like one thing (poorly) from the middle of the 10+ things I had sent.
Me : "You still need to change/add to your paper."
Him : "What do I need to change/add to my paper?"
Me : "The stuff from my previous email." I resend the previous email.
Him : Sends his revised paper, now 2-3 things are changed but still missing the majority of what I wrote.
Me : "Just copy and paste everything in my previous email and put it in your paper. I don't have time to deal with this since I have to go to work." *I leave for work*
Him : Sends revision with this list of things just randomly in his paper with nothing else changed/added to the Team Leader.

Next Day right before the presentation and before the Engineer showed up, Team Leader: WTF *jokingly* I had to fix all of that stuff.
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Posted 12/11/15 , edited 12/11/15
Procrastinating/useless teammates are bad, but there are a lot of other awful types, like...

-- Self-appointed know-it-all leaders who deny any input or ideas that didn''t spring from their "genius." Then expect everyone else to realize their grand vision while giving themselves the least about of work possible (because bossing other people around is their real job).
Result: Mutiny, usually.

-- Inefficient workers who try to show off and impress bosses/instructors by planning/expecting WAY too much. And then you all hand in a glued-together card castle, because all you needed to make was a bird house, and your dumb teammates wanted to build a real house?
Result: At least my independent work is good.

-- A majority of friends who alienate/ignore the rest of the team, leading to poor communication and like, two separate concepts because you're all not quite on the same page, and then you try to meet somewhere in the middle, but the friends gang up and they're all like, "But we already did all this work together!" so you and 1-2 other people end up throwing out the stuff YOU worked on to compensate?
Result: Oh, my ****ing god you clique-y wankers.
Posted 12/11/15 , edited 12/11/15
Two days ago, I got a job working at a factory. However, the more senior staff made me do all of his work, instead of teaching me what to do and helping me. So I walked out of the job 4 hours in.
He was trying to take advantage of the fact that it's my first day at work, but the manager who hired me told me that we had to swap roles regularly, for instance, we have to swap between lifting and packing things. But the person I worked with wanted me to lift for the whole 8 hours. I didn't like the unfairness, and I don't want to injure myself, so I walked out after 4 hours.

If it were my first job, I probably would take it, but after so many years and being older, I just can't take that type of crap anymore. So I'm back to step 1, which is on welfare.
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Posted 12/11/15
The only one who can make things the way I want is me.
That's why I have no expectations on people, and I never rely on anybody.
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I'm that person.

At least I was in high school. Cared not a shit.
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