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Posted 12/11/15
won't be sending them to see any doctors.
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No getting your dick removed is expensive and I dont have money for it son, also wait until you're 13 then decide.
Posted 12/11/15
First of all, I'd ask if they wanted Therapy. Therapy can help them adjust to their bodies to see what they want to do with their bodies.
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iluvcats never fails to amuse me.
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Would you support your child if they told you they were transgender?Iv'e seen videos of children who say that they would like to be the opposite gender or feel like they were born in the wrong body and even go as far as to say that they would like to remove their male genitalia and would like to have breasts. How would you react if your child told you this? would you support them? or is a child just to young to even comprehend what they're saying? {Discuss} Links to vids i saw >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH4kbybo60Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ


If you're talking about prepubescent children, then no I wouldn't support it yet :). Wait till all those hormones kick in and they figure themselves out during the teen phase or whatever it is people do (I never needed to figure myself out.)

The brain's plasticity peak is during the teen years. Wait until everything settles down and then you can support whatever decision they've come up with.

Alternatively you can brainwash them using the Montauk/Monrach projects by creating rift in their psyche brought on by torture and unimaginable pain until they escape into their happy mental place where you can push all their transgender tendencies into ^^. That way, they'll only be transgender when they get triggered and mentally enter that happy place.
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It would be weird, sure, but we would adjust eventually. A friend of mine in high school legally changed his name. It took me a little while to remember to call him by his new name, so I imagine it would be the same sort of scenario.

As for gender reassignment surgery, they're not legally allowed to have it until they're a certain age and have completed their counselling. I have faith in that process. I'm not sure how I'd feel about hormone therapy, but if my child were interested in it then I would do my own research into it first and perhaps reach out to some people who have done it.
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Posted 12/11/15

ILuvCats11 wrote:

No getting your dick removed is expensive and I dont have money for it son, also wait until you're 13 then decide.


In Russia, dick removes you!
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lambofgenesis wrote:


ILuvCats11 wrote:

No getting your dick removed is expensive and I dont have money for it son, also wait until you're 13 then decide.


In Russia, dick removes you!


I can never argue with a dick, the dick can remove me where ever.
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lambofgenesis wrote:


ILuvCats11 wrote:

No getting your dick removed is expensive and I dont have money for it son, also wait until you're 13 then decide.


In Russia, dick removes you!


(Am I wrong that I can actually remember Yakov Smirnoff routines from HBO Comedy in the 80's, without having to mindlessly parrot Mike-Era MST3K riffs in otherwise baffled public like an autistic mynah bird?
"You people are so friendly; I arrived at the airport, and there was a big sign, 'America loves Smirnoff'!")


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If you're talking about prepubescent children, then no I wouldn't support it yet :). Wait till all those hormones kick in and they figure themselves out during the teen phase or whatever it is people do (I never needed to figure myself out.)

The brain's plasticity peak is during the teen years. Wait until everything settles down and then you can support whatever decision they've come up with.


Whenever they interview the kids on the afternoon trailer-park shows, they ask "Why do you feel you're 'really' a boy and not a girl?"
"Because I like baseball and Transformers and dinosaurs, and they say girls aren't supposed to like that."



(In my day, junior, we had Marlo Thomas driving us screaming out the room singing what was then the major cultural sexual-revolution zeitgeist for the preteen set--Namely that we were free to be you and me, and how girls deserved to pitch on the Little League team too just like Tatum O'Neil, and why we shouldn't laugh if William wants "a do-oll, a do-oll", and football stars who did needlepoint singing about how it's all right to cry, and Carol Channing's voice still creeping up our spine with "Ladies first, la-dies first!"
And then the Reagan and 80's-toytoon era came along, expunged that all from our culture just so that boys could watch GI Joe and girls could watch that other My Little Pony, and our noble, painful sacrifice was in vain.
Say what you want, but even without computers, Our kids were smarter than Your kids.)
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Posted 12/11/15 , edited 12/11/15

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lambofgenesis wrote:
If you're talking about prepubescent children, then no I wouldn't support it yet :). Wait till all those hormones kick in and they figure themselves out during the teen phase or whatever it is people do (I never needed to figure myself out.)

The brain's plasticity peak is during the teen years. Wait until everything settles down and then you can support whatever decision they've come up with.


Whenever they interview the kids on the afternoon trailer-park shows, they ask "Why do you feel you're 'really' a boy and not a girl?"
"Because I like baseball and Transformers and dinosaurs, and they say girls aren't supposed to like that."



(In my day, junior, we had Marlo Thomas driving us screaming out the room singing what was then the major cultural sexual-revolution zeitgeist for the preteen set--Namely that we were free to be you and me, and how girls deserved to pitch on the Little League team too just like Tatum O'Neil, and why we shouldn't laugh if William wants "a do-oll, a do-oll", and football stars who did needlepoint singing about how it's all right to cry, and Carol Channing's voice still creeping up our spine with "Ladies first, la-dies first!"
And then the Reagan and 80's-toytoon era came along, expunged that all from our culture just so that boys could watch GI Joe and girls could watch that other My Little Pony, and our noble, painful sacrifice was in vain.
Say what you want, but even without computers, Our kids were smarter than Your kids.)


Yeah...

also when we were younger, my brother and I went into our mom's closet to try on her bra on the outside and shoes cuz they just looked so weird and were different. WE DIDN'T WANT TO BECOME GIRLS WTF! But mom and her friend took it seriously and started asking questions.... Zomg.

I rly think for the most part, you can't really tell whether children really want to change genders or not until teen years :). And remember! Removing your penis and balls is, I think, irreversible... so if you're wrong...... it's gonna be bad.
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Posted 12/11/15 , edited 12/13/15
That's way too young for them to think about that or even know that's what they want. A kid says he/she wants to be all sorts of things, doesn't mean that will remain the same the week after or a year later, let alone for the rest of their life.

If it remains the same after a few years I still wouldn't fully support their decision, I'll draw a line somewhere so a girl isn't too 'boyish' or a guy is too 'girlish', telling them it's okay to like this or that but you're still too young to fully know. But only if you cater to their every need and choice they could grow up confused and realise it might be wrong. If however, through all this it remains the same and they're now 18+ then they can choose to be who to want to be.
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That's way too young for them to think about that or even know that's what they want. A kid says he/she wants to be all sorts of things, doesn't mean that will remain the same the week after or a year later, let alone for the rest of their life.


So, if your seven-yo. girl says she wants a big long braid just like Elsa, it doesn't mean she wants to move to Lapland, and if she wants a tail just like Twilight Sparkle, it doesn't mean she wants genetic experimentation.


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also when we were younger, my brother and I went into our mom's closet to try on her bra on the outside and shoes cuz they just looked so weird and were different. WE DIDN'T WANT TO BECOME GIRLS WTF! But mom and her friend took it seriously and started asking questions.... Zomg.


The curiosity with How Does That Other Stuff You've Got Work, Anyway, starts in the preteen years when they notice each other has it (and continues on into the high and junior high school years when they bragged that they touched Jennifer's training-boobies for real), but that's not any sense of gender dysphoria, that's just the curiosity of Tasting the Dog Biscuit:
You've always wondered why your dog goes crazy over them, and want to satisfy your own curiosity just once, but that doesn't mean you want to quit your job, put on a collar, and live on a diet of them.
(Or, in guys' case, "Don't those things, like, get in the way when you tie your shoes, 'n stuff?")

Kids have curiosity; adults are too timid, believe that things have to be Important to Society to wonder about, and try to impress that wrong-thinking upon innocent victims.
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Of course I would support my child. Being transgender isn't something people choose, and it isn't a form of mental illness. It's about time people stopped being so bigoted and realised that. Especially when it's their own children who they are meant to love unconditionally.
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Ejanss wrote:


DanteVSTheWorld wrote:

That's way too young for them to think about that or even know that's what they want. A kid says he/she wants to be all sorts of things, doesn't mean that will remain the same the week after or a year later, let alone for the rest of their life.


So, if your seven-yo. girl says she wants a big long braid just like Elsa, it doesn't mean she wants to move to Lapland, and if she wants a tail just like Twilight Sparkle, it doesn't mean she wants genetic experimentation.


lambofgenesis wrote:
also when we were younger, my brother and I went into our mom's closet to try on her bra on the outside and shoes cuz they just looked so weird and were different. WE DIDN'T WANT TO BECOME GIRLS WTF! But mom and her friend took it seriously and started asking questions.... Zomg.


The curiosity with How Does That Other Stuff You've Got Work, Anyway, starts in the preteen years when they notice each other has it (and continues on into the high and junior high school years when they bragged that they touched Jennifer's training-boobies for real), but that's not any sense of gender dysphoria, that's just the curiosity of Tasting the Dog Biscuit:
You've always wondered why your dog goes crazy over them, and want to satisfy your own curiosity just once, but that doesn't mean you want to quit your job, put on a collar, and live on a diet of them.
(Or, in guys' case, "Don't those things, like, get in the way when you tie your shoes, 'n stuff?")

Kids have curiosity; adults are too timid, believe that things have to be Important to Society to wonder about, and try to impress that wrong-thinking upon innocent victims.


Having a braid and wanting to be raised in a totally different way are completely different. IMO, parents should never simply pander to their child's wants. They have the responsibility of providing the best care for the child that they can reasonably provide. This includes disciplining the child and making sure he/she turn out to be respectable people. Children need to learn that they can't always get what they want and that they should make huge decisions not with haste, but with calm deliberation.

Braids and robot costumes and pony costumes are temporary. They should be allowed at the appropriate times, ideally as a reward for positive behavior. A request that a girl be raised as a boy is not temporary. It's the same reason why you probably shouldn't let a child get a tattoo even if they tell you it's for self-expression. The benefit of allowing the behavior is outweighed by the potential consequences. Cost-benefits analysis seems to work for a lot of stuff.

That being said, I am not against transgenderism. I am, however, against spoiling children and letting them drive themselves into awful situations even when the parents are around. I'm against bad parenting.

Until someone can accurately verify that the kid really means it and needs it, and it's not just a horribly planned choice, I'd withhold my consent until the child seems of the proper age and maturity. It's just not worth it. And once they turn 18, they can go live outside and do whatever they want. Just not under my roof. When you're under my roof, you're going to have to follow my rules.
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Posted 12/11/15 , edited 12/18/15
For thousands of years, Gender was never a "choice"

Now, just because a few mad doctors have figured out a new way to mutilate the human body, suddenly Gender IS a choice.

it's nonsense.. the human animal has always had elements of BOTH genders within it. an we all "deal" with it as best we can.

because the plain truth is, NO ONE is 100% happy with who they are, and would like to change themselves, even if only for a little while.

but, God doesn't make mistakes. learn to BE who He made you and LIVE with it..
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