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Could A Low Graduation Rate Be Something A School Is Glad Of?
Posted 12/14/15 , edited 12/14/15
So, I'm watching Shougeki, and I notice the lack of willpower to charge the staggeringly low graduation rate. Now could this be something to be proud of or a black mark?

Edit: In your opinions of course.
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Low graduation rate=bad school.
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Low graduation rate=bad school.


So Tootsuki is a bad school?
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That depends. Do we have a low graduation rate because our curriculum is exceedingly rigorous, our grading scale is outlandishly tilted toward failure, and our service/internship requirements are so time consuming that only the absolute cream of the crop could possibly make the final cut? Or do we have a low graduation rate because we have very low standards for entry, disengaged professors who don't teach the material very well (if at all), and provide basically no academic support resources?

If it's the former you might be able to use your low graduation rate as a selling point. If it's the latter, however, you're going to want to skim over that little detail before it draws attention to your crappy resources and low standards. Unfortunately, some of the lower quality schools have very good marketing teams that know exactly how to do just that while recruiting.
Posted 12/14/15 , edited 12/14/15

potentsativa wrote:

This thread needs more context


I already gave you context. I was watching Shougeki No Soma which is a cooking school in which the protagonist goes to that only has a 10% graduation rate. Now in any situation could such a statistic be a good thing, a sign of prestige? In your opinions of course.



Now I think any school that aims to not help every student graduate but instead have as many of them fail is a bad school.
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That depends. Do we have a low graduation rate because our curriculum is exceedingly rigorous, our grading scale is outlandishly tilted toward failure, and our service/internship requirements are so time consuming that only the absolute cream of the crop could possibly make the final cut? Or do we have a low graduation rate because we have very low standards for entry, disengaged professors who don't teach the material very well (if at all), and provide basically no academic support resources?

If it's the former you might be able to use your low graduation rate as a selling point. If it's the latter, however, you're going to want to skim over that little detail before it draws attention to your crappy resources and low standards. Unfortunately, some of the lower quality schools have very good marketing teams that know exactly how to do just that while recruiting.


Well, Google Search says Grad rate of Harvard is 86% AND MIT AT 93%. Yet to check to see if any of this concerns first year retention rates.
Posted 12/14/15 , edited 12/14/15

PeripheralVisionary wrote:


potentsativa wrote:

This thread needs more context


I already gave you context. I was watching Shougeki No Soma which is a cooking school in which the protagonist goes to that only has a 10% graduation rate. Now in any situation could such a statistic be a good thing, a sign of prestige? In your opinions of course.


Okay, took me awhile to figure out which anime you were talking about. The school is a prestigious one known for it's rigorous course, so in this case yea it benefits the schools image and says something about the students who pass.

Posted 12/14/15 , edited 12/14/15

potentsativa wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:


potentsativa wrote:

This thread needs more context


I already gave you context. I was watching Shougeki No Soma which is a cooking school in which the protagonist goes to that only has a 10% graduation rate. Now in any situation could such a statistic be a good thing, a sign of prestige? In your opinions of course.


Okay, took me awhile to figure out which anime you were talking about. The school is a prestigious one known for it's rigorous course, so in this case yea it benefits the schools image and says something about the students who pass.



But is it a good thing? Your opinions only. As I said before, I don't typically approved of certain grading methods, especially curved where only 5 As are available and such.

One could easily say tootsuki is a bad school.


Think of this thread as a deconstruction. Could Tootsuki exist irl?
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descloud wrote:

Low graduation rate=bad school.


So Tootsuki is a bad school?


Never heard of it :p
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Well, Google Search says Grad rate of Harvard is 86% AND MIT AT 93%. Yet to check to see if any of this concerns first year retention rates.


Right, and I think you're getting at the main point here: graduation rates in and of themselves don't tell you a whole lot about a university. You have to look at the resources, professors, programmes, and so on when making a decision. Unless you're on a free ride scholarship or live somewhere without tuition fees you also have to factor in affordability. Then there's location, which impacts everything from the sort of weather you'll be expecting, to the commercial and employment options you'll have at your disposal, to how far away from home you are.

A low graduation rate certainly won't help convince someone that a university is worth attending on its own, but depending on why that university's rate is low you may or may not be able to sell it anyway. Of course, a 10% graduation rate would be the mother of all selling jobs, but I'm sure some marketing firm out there would take it up.
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Posted 12/14/15 , edited 12/14/15

PeripheralVisionary wrote:

But is it a good thing? Your opinions only. As I said before, I don't typically approved of certain grading methods, especially curved where only 5 As are available and such.

One could easily say tootsuki is a bad school.

Think of this thread as a deconstruction. Could Tootsuki exist irl?


It could exist in real life if the teachers and students could prove to everyone that there methods of teaching result in superb chefs, although if nobody could pass at first a lot of people could be discouraged leading to nobody really trying.
Posted 12/14/15 , edited 12/14/15

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It could exist in real life if the teachers and students could prove to everyone that there methods of teaching result in superb chefs, although if nobody could pass at first a lot of people could be discouraged leading to nobody really trying.


Why would someone choose to make a school where less than 1 out of 10 graduate? Aren't there better options? Should Tootsuki improve?


Some part of me believe that such school shouldn't exist.
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