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Could A Low Graduation Rate Be Something A School Is Glad Of?
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Posted 12/14/15 , edited 12/14/15
Nobody thinks there's a need to change the school, at least in the direction you're talking about, because everyone acknowledges that if you survive the school curriculum, you'll become successful in the world's food industry.

The school doesn't worry about the low graduation rate because the 10% success rate outweighs the 90% fail rate, considering what those students end up accomplishing after graduating, plus they have other things going on that would put its school in a good light. Not gonna spoil anything.

In the end, it's an anime, so they'll make it work. In real life, I have no idea. It doesn't seem likely.
Posted 12/14/15 , edited 12/14/15

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Nobody thinks there's a need to change the school, at least in the direction you're talking about, because everyone acknowledges that if you survive the school curriculum, you'll become successful in the world's food industry.

The school doesn't worry about the low graduation rate because the 10% success rate outweighs the 90% fail rate, considering what those students end up accomplishing after graduating, plus they have other things going on that would put its school in a good light. Not gonna spoil anything.

In the end, it's an anime, so they'll make it work. In real life, I have no idea. It doesn't seem likely.


Is it even treated as a problem? I find the snobbish errr.....is elitism the right word....disgusting! It is a horrible anime and should be treated as such!
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Is it even treated as a problem?


I don't think so. I think part of entering the school is accepting that they might not graduate, well, excluding characters like Souma who have the intention to dominate starting day one.
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Why would someone choose to make a school where less than 1 out of 10 graduate? Aren't there better options? Should Tootsuki improve?


Some part of me believe that such school shouldn't exist.


If I owned the school it be a lot of fun to watch young passionate kids competing and cooperating with each other in order to gain knowledge and skill far beyond what is normally provided in regular culinary schools, each person pushing each other to improve or fail and in the end you get crazy good chefs.
Posted 12/14/15 , edited 12/14/15

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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Why would someone choose to make a school where less than 1 out of 10 graduate? Aren't there better options? Should Tootsuki improve?


Some part of me believe that such school shouldn't exist.


If I owned the school it be a lot of fun to watch young passionate kids competing and cooperating with each other in order to gain knowledge and skill far beyond what is normally provided in regular culinary schools, each person pushing each other to improve or fail and in the end you get crazy good chefs.


So you want to fail 90%? There are other ways to compete. Rankings, etc. Wanting 90% of your students to fail because of curved grading and various other implements is pure bullshit and shouldn't be encouraged. Competitiveness shouldn't come at the risk of livelihoods. It doesn't work that way.

You're a horrible person. HORRIBLE.
Posted 12/14/15

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potentsativa wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Why would someone choose to make a school where less than 1 out of 10 graduate? Aren't there better options? Should Tootsuki improve?


Some part of me believe that such school shouldn't exist.


If I owned the school it be a lot of fun to watch young passionate kids competing and cooperating with each other in order to gain knowledge and skill far beyond what is normally provided in regular culinary schools, each person pushing each other to improve or fail and in the end you get crazy good chefs.


So you want to fail 90%? There are other ways to compete. Rankings, etc. Wanting 90% of your students to fail because of curved grading and various other implements is pure bullshit and shouldn't be encouraged. Competitiveness shouldn't come at the risk of livelihoods. It doesn't work that way.


It makes the whole situation even more of an extreme environment which is the whole point also people know what there getting into. Ultimately It's just a selfish playground I constructed in which people can choose to partake in or not. If I'm creating this school for mostly selfish reasons I don't care it's what I wanted to do, it's not like I'm forcing anyone to partake.
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It makes the whole situation even more of an extreme environment which is the whole point also people know what there getting into. Ultimately It's just a selfish playground I constructed in which people can choose to partake in or not. If I'm creating this school for mostly selfish reasons I don't care it's what I wanted to do, it's not like I'm forcing anyone to partake.


Do you honestly think that people should be taught in an extreme environment? Don't you have some responsibility to help your students instead of hanging them out to dry? How would you feel if a great number of your students killed themselves because of pressure?

People like you who don't care about students in the first place shouldn't own schools.
Posted 12/14/15 , edited 12/14/15

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Do you honestly think that people should be taught in an extreme environment? Don't you have some responsibility to help your students instead of hanging them out to dry? How would you feel if a great number of your students killed themselves because of pressure?


No, I just wanted to create one. Probably, I don't know if I would conduct it the same as the owner of Tootsuki. I would probably feel little to nothing.
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No, I just wanted to create one. Probably, I don't know if I would conduct it the same as the owner of Tootsuki. I would probably feel little to nothing.

I was angry at first, but then I realize that you can't force someone to feel. It has to come naturally. So even if you are a terrible person I'll accept you.
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I was angry at first, but then I realize that you can't force someone to feel. It has to come naturally. So even if you are a terrible person I'll accept you.


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In Shokugeki no Soma, that statistic is used to show that the school has really high standards. in real life, that's not really a good thing since the school would probably be considered crappy.
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Someone I worked with once told me some states, counties, and cities do not push for higher education standards or try to meet the status quo because they know there still needs to be some kind of low income and unskilled manual labour in the country.
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In Shokugeki no Soma, that statistic is used to show that the school has really high standards. in real life, that's not really a good thing since the school would probably be considered crappy.


Would it be possible in real life? Would it be advisable or even better?
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:


potentsativa wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Why would someone choose to make a school where less than 1 out of 10 graduate? Aren't there better options? Should Tootsuki improve?


Some part of me believe that such school shouldn't exist.


If I owned the school it be a lot of fun to watch young passionate kids competing and cooperating with each other in order to gain knowledge and skill far beyond what is normally provided in regular culinary schools, each person pushing each other to improve or fail and in the end you get crazy good chefs.


So you want to fail 90%? There are other ways to compete. Rankings, etc. Wanting 90% of your students to fail because of curved grading and various other implements is pure bullshit and shouldn't be encouraged. Competitiveness shouldn't come at the risk of livelihoods. It doesn't work that way.

You're a horrible person. HORRIBLE.


Without having seen the show, it sounds to me like you're confusing graduation rates with evaluation scores. A 10% graduation rate indicates that 90% of the students who enroll drop out of the school, not that the school flunked 90% of its students. It's more an indication of what the students think of the school as opposed to what the school does to its students.

That said, it could be that many of the students feel like the education isn't worthwhile and have decided to look elsewhere for quality education. Or it could be indicative of an intense curriculum, and many of the students who drop out are looking for a similar quality of education without all the unnecessary work. Or it could be that your demographic is largely comprised of students who don't like school and basically never showed up in the first place. Or maybe your tuition is high and your students find themselves drowning in debt by the time they reach their third year.

Ultimately, I have to say that I generally agree with you. I can't really approve of a curriculum that encourages students to quit. Rather than providing a higher quality education, it seems more like they're trying to filter out "bad students" in an attempt to boost their ratings, banking on the success of students that would have succeeded in just about any environment. It's a strategy that sounds better suited for a certification exam where there is no education involved.
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Interesting.

It all depends on reputation, really.
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