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You realize a lot of these shounen tropes you're referring to were started with JoJo, right? Phantom Blood was written nearly 30 years ago and JoJo is really popular with creative types in the manga and anime industries.

So glad you liked it after all the pestering we've been giving you about watching it.

Stardust Crusaders is on the long side and the best part is the last third so it is good for marathoning like Shwu said. Once you've done that you'll be gtg for Part IV in April.


Hahaha good point! I forgot that the manga was written at the beginning of time That's pretty hilarious that it's like the godfather of shounens, yet it still manages to be fresh and at the top of the pack. That's when you know you got a good series, is when it ages well.

Lol ya, honestly I wasn't sure how I was going to like it and I had a negative view going into it, but I came out loving it. Go figure.


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Yeah as was already pointed out, JoJo's may seem cliche, but it created most of those cliches, everyone else just copied it.


Ya, I always forget that this series was written so damn long ago! Now I give the author even more props for making a lot of these things himself with nothing to go off of really. That's pretty impressive!

Has he written anything else? And he must be fairly old now, I'ms surprised he's kept the story going for so long.


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Oh but Loomy, I forgot to mention that I love Lisa Lisa's backstory. She was an adult woman who had started a traditional family when her husband was murdered but instead of getting all weepy she put the baby down, got up and went out to kill the guy who did it. For a shounen series in the 80's that is extremely progressive.


I love it too, I just love Lisa Lisa.


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Great write up I will praobly do a jojo maration over the xmas break and new years possibly


my guess for the ed them for part 4? Smells like Teen spirit by Nirvana or the Weird al version!


Thanks! I'm excited for the upcoming EDs.


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Especially considering that, at the time, Araki didn't feel confident in his ability to write female characters.


Well I hope he feels confident now because he did pretty well!
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Glad you liked it, Loomy. I still haven't finished Stardust Crusaders but I have enjoyed what I have seen so far. I only have 13 more episodes left to watch.


Me too

Oh nice! Glad you liked the stuff you have seen. I'll get on that definitely before the start of part IV.


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Jotaro is japanese (well, half anyway), but Stardust Crusaders is a travel around the world story and only the first three episodes are set in Japan.

It does have a pretty awkward start however; a brand new concept (Stands instead of the Hamon) is introduced and it's not until nearly halfway through that the author realizes how much creative potential it has.

Though glad to hear you enjoyed part 1 and 2! Now you have more or less three months to catch up with the rest in time for the Part 4 adaptation which is quite the fan favorite in the west, despite being 100% set in Japan.


I'm glad it doesn't stay in Japan for too long. And I see, so the author takes a while to find his ground in part 3. I'm just excited for some Joseph I bet he's much stronger now being older with a ton of training.

And how do you like the Jojo in Part IV (I'm assuming it's a new one)?
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I'm just excited for some Joseph I bet he's much stronger now being older with a ton of training.




Um... Well...



Just letting you know ahead of time so you're not disappointed. He still has a lot of good moments in Part 3, though.


And how do you like the Jojo in Part IV (I'm assuming it's a new one)?


Yes, it's a new Jojo. Every part has its own Jojo. I don't know anything about Josuke other than he has great hair so I'm curious to see what Le_Dom's response to your post will be.



Also I heard something regarding his relation to Joseph, but I don't want to spoil it.
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Ya, I always forget that this series was written so damn long ago! Now I give the author even more props for making a lot of these things himself with nothing to go off of really. That's pretty impressive!

Has he written anything else? And he must be fairly old now, I'ms surprised he's kept the story going for so long.


I dunno if he has written anything else but Araki is only 55. That said even though he is 55, he doesn't look like it, as in he doesn't really look like he's aged at all, leading to a running joke that he's immortal/a vampire himself. A joke that even appears in Gintama of all places(well that actually makes sense since Gintama is Shonen Jump and JoJo's used to be Shonen Jump as well).

Also it isn't just other anime and manga that were influenced by JoJo's. Many video game developers in Japan were influenced by the series as well, with it being most prominent in fighting game franchises. For example, Benimaru from King of Fighters is based on the character Jean Pierre Polnareff(who appears in Stardust Crusaders), and Rose and Guile from Street Fighter are respectively based on Lisa Lisa and Stroheim. Due to this past history there are many joking that the new character in SF5, Necalli, is based on Kars, because of how he looks during his Torrent of Power V-Trigger.
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^Oh you mean this joke?



Referring to the fact that in Gintama all mangaka are gorillas...except Araki.

Araki wrote Baoh and The Gorgeous Irene in the 80's but most of his side projects since then have been JoJo-related. But give the man some credit he has been meeting his publishing deadlines for almost 30 years. And besides, every part of JoJo is different so it's basically like a string of related series.

It's too bad you don't want a story set in Japan, Loomy, because Part IV takes place entirely in one Japanese town. There's nothing typical or cliched about it, though, if that's what you're worried about?
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Ooooh so it's that guy! That's the guy that Knuckle from HxH is based off of (I know that much at least!)!


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LoomyTheBrew wrote:

Ya, I always forget that this series was written so damn long ago! Now I give the author even more props for making a lot of these things himself with nothing to go off of really. That's pretty impressive!

Has he written anything else? And he must be fairly old now, I'ms surprised he's kept the story going for so long.


I dunno if he has written anything else but Araki is only 55. That said even though he is 55, he doesn't look like it, as in he doesn't really look like he's aged at all, leading to a running joke that he's immortal/a vampire himself. A joke that even appears in Gintama of all places(well that actually makes sense since Gintama is Shonen Jump and JoJo's used to be Shonen Jump as well).

Also it isn't just other anime and manga that were influenced by JoJo's. Many video game developers in Japan were influenced by the series as well, with it being most prominent in fighting game franchises. For example, Benimaru from King of Fighters is based on the character Jean Pierre Polnareff(who appears in Stardust Crusaders), and Rose and Guile from Street Fighter are respectively based on Lisa Lisa and Stroheim. Due to this past history there are many joking that the new character in SF5, Necalli, is based on Kars, because of how he looks during his Torrent of Power V-Trigger.


Holy crap he does look young!


Damn! I didn't know that Jojo had such a huge impact in Japan, it's like the early Superman and Batman comics in terms of how influence it had. And I just looked up the Street Fighter characters and their bio. Jeez, I've been looking at those characters for so long but had no idea... Rose's stage is even in Venice! So cool!


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^Oh you mean this joke?



Referring to the fact that in Gintama all mangaka are gorillas...except Araki.

Araki wrote Baoh and The Gorgeous Irene in the 80's but most of his side projects since then have been JoJo-related. But give the man some credit he has been meeting his publishing deadlines for almost 30 years. And besides, every part of JoJo is different so it's basically like a string of related series.

It's too bad you don't want a story set in Japan, Loomy, because Part IV takes place entirely in one Japanese town. There's nothing typical or cliched about it, though, if that's what you're worried about?


I see so he's mainly just focused on Jojo. And good point, each part seems to be different from the last, so I'll give him credit for that. Though I do like authors that make a few different series, just because I like comparing and contrasting them and I like the diversity. But he seems to keep it fresh each part so good on him.

And definitely! I bet there's been barely any delays from him. Unlike people like fucking Togashi (seriously, he should just hire an artist to draw for him, it's ridiculous at this point. HxH will never finish at this rate). Also how has his artstyle changed since the 80's to now?

Also addressing your question, it's just that so many other anime are in Japan (naturally) and that the show started off outside of Japan and used a variety of locations that weren't Japanese, I thought that was awesome. Japan is fine and all, but I liked the western feel the show had and that it was outside of Japan for a change. I bet I'll still really like Part IV, but I'll miss the western setting a lot.
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That's a lot of stuff. Yup. He has a babyface. Part 4 is in a Japanese town but 5 is in Naples and 6 in Florida. My guess is that they will only animate that much.

And for his art style well:

Then:


Now:
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^ Wow. Jotaro lost a lot of weight.
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That's actually the framed poster he gave to Clint Eastwood (who Jotaro is based off) when he met him!

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PhantomGundam wrote:

^ Wow. Jotaro lost a lot of weight.


He kind of ages in reverse.


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That's actually the framed poster he gave to Clint Eastwood (who Jotaro is based off) when he met him!



I have this art book. I bought it for the Rohan Goes to Gucci insert but it has plenty of other cool stuff in it.
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