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Posted 12/15/15
Just saw this article and as much as I would like to make a Wilson joke it would just be in bad taste. -_- I know

So short version guy gets stranded for 438 days may have eaten his 22 yr old companion. So now the family is suing him for possibly eating their son.
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Before starving to death, Cordoba made Alvarenga promise to not eat his corpse and to find his mother and tell her what happened.


http://www.grindtv.com/random/castaway-that-survived-a-record-438-days-at-sea-sued-for-eating-crewmate/#7MWGgfEOfQ1C1c5D.97

Even if he did eat his friend I feel he was justified. Question would you do whatever it takes to survive? Personally if we went camping and got stranded I give you permission to chow down just not the face.
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I don't think I'd want to eat a corpse.
I'll just lay there and accept my death.
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J-POP187 wrote:

Just saw this article and as much as I would like to make a Wilson joke it would just be in bad taste. -_- I know

So short version guy gets stranded for 438 days may have eaten his 22 yr old companion. So now the family is suing him for possibly eating their son.
From the article

Before starving to death, Cordoba made Alvarenga promise to not eat his corpse and to find his mother and tell her what happened.


http://www.grindtv.com/random/castaway-that-survived-a-record-438-days-at-sea-sued-for-eating-crewmate/#7MWGgfEOfQ1C1c5D.97

Even if he did eat his friend I feel he was justified. Question would you do whatever it takes to survive? Personally if we went camping and got stranded I give you permission to chow down just not the face.


Well, if someone ate me to survive, the best take care of what I was force to leave behind.

Yes, I would probably eat a person if I had to. Last resort though.
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Wait so dude promised not to eat other dude..and did anyway. I'm sorry you're automatic scum in my books and deserve to be shot. Not for the cannibalism but for going against your own word not to do it. Those who break their word don't deserve life in my opinion. Honour is more important then life.
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J-POP187 wrote:

Just saw this article and as much as I would like to make a Wilson joke it would just be in bad taste. -_- I know

So short version guy gets stranded for 438 days may have eaten his 22 yr old companion. So now the family is suing him for possibly eating their son.
From the article

Before starving to death, Cordoba made Alvarenga promise to not eat his corpse and to find his mother and tell her what happened.


http://www.grindtv.com/random/castaway-that-survived-a-record-438-days-at-sea-sued-for-eating-crewmate/#7MWGgfEOfQ1C1c5D.97

Even if he did eat his friend I feel he was justified. Question would you do whatever it takes to survive? Personally if we went camping and got stranded I give you permission to chow down just not the face.


So essentially the only way his parents would have known that Cordoba told Alvarenga to promise not to eat his corpse would be if Alvarenga told him that Cordoba said that and made him promise. I don't know... Would that be something you openly tell someone's parents about? If he died out there, why would you want to keep a rotting corpse with you?

My question is what is Cordoba's parents going to get out of suing this guy? Are they suing him for funeral costs?
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Posted 12/15/15 , edited 12/15/15

Ranwolf wrote:

Wait so dude promised not to eat other dude..and did anyway. I'm sorry you're automatic scum in my books and deserve to be shot. Not for the cannibalism but for going against your own word not to do it. Those who break their word don't deserve life in my opinion. Honour is more important then life.


Problem is; not eating him and then dying would be breaking half of the promise. If he were to die, he couldn't tell the young man's parents squat.




Anyway; I applaud the man for his cannibalism. There's no way that could have been easy, but he did what he had to do. Sheer desperation. He kept half of the promise, something that likely couldn't be possible without eating him.



Also, I'm having Until Dawn flashbacks. Wendigo.
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Problem is; not eating him and then dying would be breaking half of the promise. If he were to die, he couldn't tell the young man's parents squat.




Anyway; I applaud the man for his cannibalism. There's no way that could have been easy, but he did what he had to do. Sheer desperation. He kept half of the promise, something that likely couldn't be possible without eating him.



Also, I'm having Until Dawn flashbacks. Wendigo.


Why the hell are you applauding him, the cannibalism wasn't a survival choice. Dude was stranded for what 438 days. That's a bloody year and half almost. Dude must have had something else to eat otherwise he wouldn't have lasted that long.

Also why do so many losers even think resorting to cannibalism in any sitution short of being in a Arctic or Desert wasteland is acceptable. Other then that your average landscape is teeming with edible plant life, easily caught edible insects, and if you're not an idiot catching small game is pathetically easy.

Just thinking aloud, why the hell didn't dude just walk his sorry ass out of that situation. A year and some change is more then enough time to circumnavigate the globe let alone to the nearest bit of civilization.
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Ranwolf wrote:


aeb0717 wrote:


Problem is; not eating him and then dying would be breaking half of the promise. If he were to die, he couldn't tell the young man's parents squat.




Anyway; I applaud the man for his cannibalism. There's no way that could have been easy, but he did what he had to do. Sheer desperation. He kept half of the promise, something that likely couldn't be possible without eating him.



Also, I'm having Until Dawn flashbacks. Wendigo.


Why the hell are you applauding him, the cannibalism wasn't a survival choice. Dude was stranded for what 438 days. That's a bloody year and half almost. Dude must have had something else to eat otherwise he wouldn't have lasted that long.

Also why do so many losers even think resorting to cannibalism in any sitution short of being in a Arctic or Desert wasteland is acceptable. Other then that your average landscape is teeming with edible plant life, easily caught edible insects, and if you're not an idiot catching small game is pathetically easy.

Just thinking aloud, why the hell didn't dude just walk his sorry ass out of that situation. A year and some change is more then enough time to circumnavigate the globe let alone to the nearest bit of civilization.


My question is... Did he actually eat him? I'm seeing that hes being sued on the grounds of a "may have".
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Posted 12/15/15 , edited 12/15/15

Ranwolf wrote:

Wait so dude promised not to eat other dude..and did anyway. I'm sorry you're automatic scum in my books and deserve to be shot. Not for the cannibalism but for going against your own word not to do it. Those who break their word don't deserve life in my opinion. Honour is more important then life.


Hear hear!

If my companion died in the field, under those circumstances, then I'd use my last breaths to give them their burial. I could die satisfied with that. We all have to die sometime, be damned if I'm going to sacrifice my honor for the sake of a few more years. 'Specially if i have to carry the memory of eating my mate.
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Posted 12/15/15 , edited 12/15/15

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My question is... Did he actually eat him? I'm seeing that hes being sued on the grounds of a "may have".


Yeah, problem is only two people know the answer to that question. One is dead and likely ended up as dinner..likely that is not 100% sure. And the other is the loser who may or may not have eaten him.
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Nice job assuming that the cannibalism didn't occur before a reliable food source was established, or before the guy figured out what you and I consider obvious alternatives. It's not uncommon for people to starve before they are willing to eat bugs and whatnot, because of stubborness. Also, save the lectures.
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Nice job assuming that the cannibalism didn't occur before a reliable food source was established, or before they guy figured out what you and I consider obvious alternatives. It's not uncommon for people to starve before they are willing to eat bugs and whatnot, because of stubborness. Also, save the lectures.


Your average male weighs about 81 kilograms .. and I am being generous there. 81 kilograms of meat isn't going to keep a male adult going long in a survival situation . Certainly not for a year and half. So yeah there were other food sources. And if people are too stupid to get survival training before going on trip that may end up as a survival situation I think they deserve all the lecturing I care to give.
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I'd just drink as much salt water as I possibly could and wait for my death.
Posted 12/16/15 , edited 12/16/15
I don't blame him (the dead one). I don't think I can eat raw meat either.
I've eaten raw fish in Japan before, and I wanted to vomit everything out, but gulped them all in because I didn't want to offend anyone.
But raw birds/fish with furs/scales and everything, I can't imagine eating that.
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I'd eat a dead friend or traveling companion if I had no other choice, provided I know he/she didn't die due to some weird illness.

I eat raw meat and fish all the time, including red meat. I've had stuff like horse and chicken tataki-style or fresh and raw. It can't be too different. It's not hard to build a fire to cook the meat, either. Could always smoke it, dry it, and save it for later. Most people would be over 100 pounds, I'm going to just reduce that to 50 pounds of fresh muscle and organ meat, since I wouldn't eat the brain, intestines, liver, skin, or bones. Everything else can be cooked and preserved, then eaten. Too much blood is bad for people who aren't used to consuming it but, luckily, I've eaten blood for a long time so I'm probably able to consume more than most people before getting sick.

I think his action was justified. This is a case of strict necessity, in my opinion. If your companion dies before you, it doesn't make sense to just let yourself die with them and do nothing to solve your food issue when there's fresh meat in front of you. What kind of damages are the parents expecting to receive as compensation? One million? Based on what, exactly? The "possibility" he ate someone? He's not being tried for a crime. This sounds like they just want money from him and that the amount came out of nowhere.
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