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xX_Dave_Xx wrote:


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he is a living meme

A living Dank Meme with a mind of fascist.


Please explain how he's a fascist.


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and has never been involved in politics


With the current state of politics, that may be a good thing; instead of the same-old same-old.

Bernie may be less of the status quo, but he's not going to win against Hillary. And Hillary winning is like another 4 years of Obama.


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At last night's debate, he publicly stated that he's willing to commit war crimes (invading foreign land with the goal of murdering innocent civilians). There's no way anyone who says stuff like that can ever win an election for any public office... Except maybe in Nazi Germany.


Meh, Obama bombed a hospital a (month or two) back and no one really cared.


Anyways, as much as you think Trump will become CEO of America or whatever once he gets elected, Obama already sold out the country to corporations with his Trans-Pacific Partnership deal. So while you cower and fear a president who gets nothing done due to gridlocking with Congress all the time, you'll be getting bent by CEOs and Big Pharma.
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Trump isn't a politician. He's a businessman. I don't think he's fit to be president, even though he had the balls to actually say something about our immigration problem.

I agree we need to crack down on illegal immigration and stop rewarding lawbreakers, but Trump dived in headfirst with a handful of race cards, so I'm not in any rush to see him at the helm. He pinpointed a problem and then veered way off course.

However, I do give him props for not giving a damn what people say about him. If only he made sound decisions to go with that thick skin.
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Trump is leading the Republican polls, based on that I'd say that makes him decent politician. What I think of his policies is another matter.
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i believe Donald Trump is a successful businessman and will be one of the best presidents of America. He is awesome.
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PhantomGundam wrote:
Actually, that's the only way to win. It's not possible for either party to win without getting support from voters in the middle, namely the independent voters who make up a significant portion of the votes. It's bad enough that Trump has split the GOP, and thus alienating a large number of republicans who would've otherwise gone out to vote. He's also pushing away all the independents. If Trump becomes the republican nominee, it'll be bizzare if the republicans don't experience the lowest voter turnout they've seen in history. Especially since Trump is sending everybody else to vote for Hillary.


Yes, Independents are in theory one of the largest voting groups in the United States. About 40% of registered voters are Independent. Problem is these people don't vote usually. A good voter turnout among them according to Gallup and other polling agencies would be between 30%-40%. There are about 180 million registered voters in the US. About 25% are registered Republican and 35% registered Democrat. Just taking the percentages of that 180 million yields up the vast majority of people who voted last presidential election. While not mythical, voting independents are unreliable. You would be better off appealing to your base, energizing them to vote, scooping up the few Independents that lean your way, and discouraging your opponent's base than a broad appeal to them.

Its partisan, not what the founders expected, and counter-intuitive until you look at the numbers.
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Honestly he isnt a "good" anything, everything he has done has been mediocre at best. It shocks me people are so stupid they can't tell they are being manipulated.
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Trump is leading the Republican polls, based on that I'd say that makes him decent politician.


And how do you use that to explain that Mitt Romney was leading the polls last election?


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xX_Dave_Xx wrote:Please explain how he's a fascist.




A quick reading of Sinclair Lewis's "It Can't Happen Here" would be in order here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Can%27t_Happen_Here --
An allegorical satire where "Buzz Windrip and his all-American Minutemen", working on the same frustrations of the Depression and social unrest, wins in a landslide of angry public support, and parallels the same path as 30's Germany.

Despite people in the US laughing at his shrieking histrionics, Hitler believed that ridding the influence of "the Jewish bankers" and keeping the country safe by keeping the vile world schemes of "the Bolsheviks" outside the border would restore the economy and national pride again, and the only thing that's boosting Trump's numbers, despite his public clown act, are the people saying "He's right about the Muslims and immigrants, you know!"
In fact, there were quite a few prewar Depression-era English and American businessmen who would say good things about "that German painter fellow" and his "economic reform" at cocktail parties, while a few more drinks would open up their own private opinions about foreign immigrants and Jewish finance executives...
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I find it funny that if you agree with SOME of what he says it automatically makes you a racist, a bigot, and a redneck. Liberals are funny
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A bunch of immigrants whining about immigrants in a country specifically established for immigrants by immigrants, and it becomes even cuter when the immigrants are going to send back those whom they deem a little bit more immigrant than themselves; "Give me your hungry, your poor... wait, not anymore... because now I'VE arrived."
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Lol that photoshop toss together is funny no doubt.

"rises to power using race"

You're forgetting a few things... Muslims or, "Islam" is a religion, not a race. A religion that dictates it's followers to kill in its name. Something you'll find Jews not guilty of during the Nazi uprising. Mexicans, or Mexico is/are also not a race... They're a nationality of people. Trump isn't saying, "STOP ALL HISPANICS FROM ENTERING OUR COUNTRY" It's more like, "We have these laws in place, why are we not following them?"

"proposed mass deportations"

Again, you forget that these people are not Americans, they are not ENTITLED to be Americans, they came to America ILLEGALLY. We prosecute criminals for theft, but we're going to give Illegal immigrants a pass because why? This is coming from a very brown Hispanic.


"promised to make Germany/America great again"
Ok, so i'll give you this one. But connecting vague parallels promising better times is hardly fascist... Every politician in the history of man has done exactly that...


"Anti-Muslim fascist"
Uh... Have you read the Koran? Did you miss the part where it says to murder infidels, Atheists, promiscuous women etc? Last I checked, Islam declares war on US, not the other way around. While they're figuring out ways to cut your head off, you're sitting there like, "yeah, Islam is so peaceful.." Roiiiiiiiight..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICpU8-foA0E

Now you can call propaganda if you'd like, the proof is in the pudding I'm afraid.

"Blames immigrants for Americas problems"
Now, I've no fucking clue where anyone got this from, besides of course, their own fairy lala land. Never has trump said anything remotely similar. He's touched on failed programs that business use to take advantage of immigrant workers and talks about how removing all the illegal labor from the market would increase wages and put AMERICANS back to work.


"thinks Muslims should wear special ID's"
Yep... Whats wrong with this again? It's not like we're stuffing them in Concentration camps and gassing them by the 10s of thousands. If there's a Muslim standing next to me in a gunshop, you better be damn fucking straight I want to know. Why? Because if he's a Muslim, a true Muslim his or her whole life is Islam. They live, breathe and eat Islam. And sooner or later. They're going to let the world know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08K2h69Vk8s


Did we forget about the Crusades? And how the Ottoman Muslims took over a MASSIVE portion of land with their Caliphate. Ruled by....? You guessed it! Sharia law. Now, how would you like to be ruled by Sharia law? Mr. Bleeding Heart, Everyone Just Needs A Hug?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ilFbbk9jw4


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The fact that trump has followers and supporters, frankly, scares me.
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"Anti-Muslim fascist"
Uh... Have you read the Koran? Did you miss the part where it says to murder infidels, Atheists, promiscuous women etc? Last I checked, Islam declares war on US, not the other way around. While they're figuring out ways to cut your head off, you're sitting there like, "yeah, Islam is so peaceful.." Roiiiiiiiight..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICpU8-foA0E

Now you can call propaganda if you'd like, the proof is in the pudding I'm afraid.


"thinks Muslims should wear special ID's"
Yep... Whats wrong with this again? It's not like we're stuffing them in Concentration camps and gassing them by the 10s of thousands. If there's a Muslim standing next to me in a gunshop, you better be damn fucking straight I want to know. Why? Because if he's a Muslim, a true Muslim his or her whole life is Islam. They live, breathe and eat Islam. And sooner or later. They're going to let the world know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08K2h69Vk8s



I could probably write a novella as to why this is wrong, but I'll go long story short here. Such policies are in direct conflict with my own faith, therefore I cannot support them under any circumstances.

http://time.com/4141317/donald-trump-christianity/
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Lol that photoshop toss together is funny no doubt.

"rises to power using race"

You're forgetting a few things... Muslims or, "Islam" is a religion, not a race. A religion that dictates it's followers to kill in its name. Something you'll find Jews not guilty of during the Nazi uprising. Mexicans, or Mexico is/are also not a race... They're a nationality of people. Trump isn't saying, "STOP ALL HISPANICS FROM ENTERING OUR COUNTRY" It's more like, "We have these laws in place, why are we not following them?"


1. I dont know if you have just been living under a rock for the past 14 years but unless your blind but Islam is largely tied to the Arabian people by bigots. If you actually follow any of this shit you will know right wing politicians use "arabian" and "muslim" interchangeably. I have a friend who is Arabic and despite being a christian there have been racist jokes thrown about her being a suicide bomber. Secondly it is Hispanic people. I dont know if you dont read the news but a large amount of the Immigrants come from central america.



"proposed mass deportations"

Again, you forget that these people are not Americans, they are not ENTITLED to be Americans, they came to America ILLEGALLY. We prosecute criminals for theft, but we're going to give Illegal immigrants a pass because why? This is coming from a very brown Hispanic.


So once again do you like not read the news? He proposed mass deportation of Muslims in America INCLUDING AMERICAN CITIZENS!



"promised to make Germany/America great again"
Ok, so i'll give you this one. But connecting vague parallels promising better times is hardly fascist... Every politician in the history of man has done exactly that...


If you have no idea how politicians have used nationalism and fear to take rights away you are blind of the last century.


"Anti-Muslim fascist"
Uh... Have you read the Koran? Did you miss the part where it says to murder infidels, Atheists, promiscuous women etc? Last I checked, Islam declares war on US, not the other way around. While they're figuring out ways to cut your head off, you're sitting there like, "yeah, Islam is so peaceful.." Roiiiiiiiight..


How about we have some context for the fucking "Kill infidels" part of the Quran


This verse, chapter 9 verse 5, is often used as evidence that Islam allows killing of non-Muslims, but what is not recognized is the context and history behind these verses. The history of this verse is that when Prophet Muhammadsa began preaching the unity of God he was persecuted for 13 years, much as Prophets Abraham and Jesus were. Since Muslims who are being persecuted are encouraged to leave for safer areas, rather than create disorder, Muhammadsa and his followers migrated to Medina. After they left, the Meccans attacked them in Medina on and off for a period of nine years until Chapter 9 was revealed.

Looking at the context of the verses, it becomes obvious that the commandment of this verse only relates to those tribes who continued hostilities against the Muslims even after they had migrated. In particular, reference is made to 5 tribes (‘Banu Khuza’ah, Banu Mudlij, Banu Bakr, Banu Damrah, and Banu Sulaiim) that did not honor the treaties they made with Muslims. It is also important to remember that the preceding verses give these people respite for 4 months to reconsider their behavior and cease hostilities. Sadly after 4 months passed, the enemies of Islam continued their hostilities against the Muslims. Only then was Prophet Muhammadsa commanded by God to meet them in battle to defend Muslims and the religion of Islam.

Even in this situation the Quran states that if the enemies repent of their behavior and promise to fulfill their treaties, it becomes incumbent on Muslims to cease military action and forgive them. Unfortunately those who take this specific verse out of context fail to see that as the title Al-Taubah suggests, the main subject matter of the chapter is forgiveness and repentance.



https://www.alislam.org/egazette/updates/why-does-the-quran-say-that-infidels-should-be-killed/

Wow its almost like you took a passage out of context to spread your bigoted views. Thats kinda fucked up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICpU8-foA0E

Now you can call propaganda if you'd like, the proof is in the pudding I'm afraid.


I could make the same fucking video on christians.

Also the first comment is by the prick who started Gamergate.


"Blames immigrants for Americas problems"
Now, I've no fucking clue where anyone got this from, besides of course, their own fairy lala land. Never has trump said anything remotely similar. He's touched on failed programs that business use to take advantage of immigrant workers and talks about how removing all the illegal labor from the market would increase wages and put AMERICANS back to work.


How about a quote from ole Trump about the immigrants

“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”


Wow that sounds like blaming problems on immigrants if I ever heard them.


"thinks Muslims should wear special ID's"
Yep... Whats wrong with this again? It's not like we're stuffing them in Concentration camps and gassing them by the 10s of thousands. If there's a Muslim standing next to me in a gunshop, you better be damn fucking straight I want to know. Why? Because if he's a Muslim, a true Muslim his or her whole life is Islam. They live, breathe and eat Islam. And sooner or later. They're going to let the world know.


I just cant even begin with this one. I actually think this may break the rules of the site.


Did we forget about the Crusades? And how the Ottoman Muslims took over a MASSIVE portion of land with their Caliphate. Ruled by....? You guessed it! Sharia law. Now, how would you like to be ruled by Sharia law? Mr. Bleeding Heart, Everyone Just Needs A Hug?


You mean the crusades were Christians went down and killed Muslims who were running a peaceful nation. Wow.

Take a look at the Jordan a country made up of largely muslims not run by sharia law.

In summation you absolutely terrify me. Im alot more forgiving of the right than most other liberal but you are terrible.
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