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you should train mma but even in mma they are people who would freeze up in a real fight . the best way to fight with out fear is to train yourself in fighting with out your heart so to speak . As in to fight with out fear you have to fight with out your heart instead of stenghting your heart to fight. you could also fight the fear by confronting it . For example you could learn muaj thai and wrestling then go to a tough neighbourhood and just act tough there or infront of a group of thugs if you keep doing that it will eventually lead to a fight if you keep getting into those fights you could breach the limits of fear. But you have to have a strong spritual side to be a true martial artist whatever that side may be becoming closer to god even if its not through orthodox relgioin would strenghten you as you could ask god to strenghten you when you see yourself as being weak. Also they are other arts that concentrate on soloey freezing up your opponenets and making you more willing to fight but masters for those arts dont really show themselves. Also your eyes make sure you have solid eyes strong eyes can destroy an opponent .


Nah.... I don't freeze in a fight... Even the ones I have lost, I lost because I was out-matched... not because I froze up.

The fear goes away after the fight starts.... but the point is that it is there before the fight, and it makes me act like a little bitch before a fight even happens. Sooooo..... I need to be in a lot of fights to get rid of that fear. As I don't feel like stacking up assault charges or ending up in the ER every weekend or getting shot or stabbed.... I think I'll stick with MMA. hahaha


yes but even while fighting two fighters have differnt mentalities even though they are both fighting. if one of them just wants the fight to end even if he loses whilst the other wants to beat up his opponenet the one with the mentalitilty of beating up his opponent is normally the winner . Try training as a monk to lose the 'bitch' mentalitty dont watch any porn espicially kinky sub dom things . meditate read spritual scriputures as in all the holy books from all relgions. Dont mess around with women or if you do have a proper relationship with one women that isnt a toil on your mind.i gave up music and forums whilst i was doing that traning as well dont know if you would do that . Train in the morning as in early in the morning as soon as dawn cracks say 5 am and change your mentality rewire your thoughts so to speak dont be yourself but be the one you want to be . and discpline yourself in regards to your diet and things that you believe give you that mentalitly as in restrict what ever you believe gives you a 'bitch' mentality even if it is just a thought.
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You want to become a fighter for all the wrong reasons. People train to fight not so they can be better fighters, but so they won't have to fight anymore.

Iv done a bit of martial arts, been stabbed in a street fight and nearly died the same night. There is no courage or glory to be found in such things. Just stupid choices to help fill this ego that is like a bottomless cup.
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You want to become a fighter for all the wrong reasons. People train to fight not so they can be better fighters, they do so they won't have to fight anymore.

Iv done a bit of martial arts, been stabbed in a street fight and nearly died the same night. There is no courage or glory to be found in such a things. Just stupid choices to help fill this ego that is like a bottomless cup.


*shrug*

I just think you misunderstood me.

I don't care about being a better fighter. I don't want to fight.

However... living in fear of it is no way to live. So, I want to destroy that fear.

Then, if I can avoid fighting, I will.... but it won't be out of fear. Fear can be a good thing, but not when it is making your decisions for you.
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descloud wrote:

You want to become a fighter for all the wrong reasons. People train to fight not so they can be better fighters, they do so they won't have to fight anymore.

Iv done a bit of martial arts, been stabbed in a street fight and nearly died the same night. There is no courage or glory to be found in such a things. Just stupid choices to help fill this ego that is like a bottomless cup.


*shrug*

I just think you misunderstood me.

I don't care about being a better fighter. I don't want to fight.



"someone threatens to "knock my teeth out," I want to be able to look them in the eye and say "Come get some."

It sounds to me like you just want to fight. Anyhow, you are as anyone, free to live your life and train in whatever martial art you please.
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HolyDrumstick wrote:


descloud wrote:

You want to become a fighter for all the wrong reasons. People train to fight not so they can be better fighters, they do so they won't have to fight anymore.

Iv done a bit of martial arts, been stabbed in a street fight and nearly died the same night. There is no courage or glory to be found in such a things. Just stupid choices to help fill this ego that is like a bottomless cup.


*shrug*

I just think you misunderstood me.

I don't care about being a better fighter. I don't want to fight.



"someone threatens to "knock my teeth out," I want to be able to look them in the eye and say "Come get some."

It sounds to me like you just want to fight. Anyhow, you are as anyone, free to live your life and train in whatever martial art you please.


Yeah, I do want to be able to do that. Do I want to fight EVERY time someone starts problems? NO. However, there are times when you need to stand up to bullies. I have several bullies who need standing up to. I would like to be able to tell them to give it their best shot. Even if I lose, being able to stand up to bullies is usually enough.

And that's also from experience.

Last time I stood up to a bully, he kept trying to mess with me after he won. I told him "Enz, you and I both know you can whip my ass... but if you don't stop messing with me, you're going to have to do it again." Never had another problem with the guy after that.

Just because you've been in bad situations doesn't mean it is better to live with fear controlling you. Even if YOU think that the fear is better, I don't. I can't live with fear controlling me. That's how I chose to live MY life.
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I'd go for Karate, a more defense-oriented fighting style, if fighting is inevitable and you can't just be on defense, then I'd go for Krav Maga, which, this martial arts evolving from the conflict of war, it quite an effective fighting style.
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Looks like you have thought it through pretty well. Although, the mood around a structured fight is different from a thug or asshole picking a fight with you in a bar or on the street, having more experience with taking and giving beatings will help.

Also the important thing is conditioning your response to the feeling of fear; how you act or react to the fear you feel. It may be helpful to rehearse imaginary situations and how you react in them. A lot of mental preperation may be a part of what you are looking for. It may sound stupid, but mental training does have an effect. That's why rituals have been popular for thousands of years.
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Looks like you have thought it through pretty well. Although, the mood around a structured fight is different from a thug or asshole picking a fight with you in a bar or on the street, having more experience with taking and giving beatings will help.

Also the important thing is conditioning your response to the feeling of fear; how you act or react to the fear you feel. It may be helpful to rehearse imaginary situations and how you react in them. A lot of mental preperation may be a part of what you are looking for. It may sound stupid, but mental training does have an effect. That's why rituals have been popular for thousands of years.


If you know of any specific practices, I'd love to take a look at them.

I don't mind walking away from a fight, if it is unnecessary.... but I don't want to walk away from a fight if that means changing the way I live my life to suit that person, because they think they can bully me into doing what they want. You know what I mean?
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Posted 12/18/15

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descloud wrote:


HolyDrumstick wrote:


descloud wrote:

You want to become a fighter for all the wrong reasons. People train to fight not so they can be better fighters, they do so they won't have to fight anymore.

Iv done a bit of martial arts, been stabbed in a street fight and nearly died the same night. There is no courage or glory to be found in such a things. Just stupid choices to help fill this ego that is like a bottomless cup.


*shrug*

I just think you misunderstood me.

I don't care about being a better fighter. I don't want to fight.



"someone threatens to "knock my teeth out," I want to be able to look them in the eye and say "Come get some."

It sounds to me like you just want to fight. Anyhow, you are as anyone, free to live your life and train in whatever martial art you please.


Yeah, I do want to be able to do that. Do I want to fight EVERY time someone starts problems? NO. However, there are times when you need to stand up to bullies. I have several bullies who need standing up to. I would like to be able to tell them to give it their best shot. Even if I lose, being able to stand up to bullies is usually enough.

And that's also from experience.

Last time I stood up to a bully, he kept trying to mess with me after he won. I told him "Enz, you and I both know you can whip my ass... but if you don't stop messing with me, you're going to have to do it again." Never had another problem with the guy after that.

Just because you've been in bad situations doesn't mean it is better to live with fear controlling you. Even if YOU think that the fear is better, I don't. I can't live with fear controlling me. That's how I chose to live MY life.


What in the world are you talking about..........
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HolyDrumstick wrote:


descloud wrote:


HolyDrumstick wrote:


descloud wrote:

You want to become a fighter for all the wrong reasons. People train to fight not so they can be better fighters, they do so they won't have to fight anymore.

Iv done a bit of martial arts, been stabbed in a street fight and nearly died the same night. There is no courage or glory to be found in such a things. Just stupid choices to help fill this ego that is like a bottomless cup.


*shrug*

I just think you misunderstood me.

I don't care about being a better fighter. I don't want to fight.



"someone threatens to "knock my teeth out," I want to be able to look them in the eye and say "Come get some."

It sounds to me like you just want to fight. Anyhow, you are as anyone, free to live your life and train in whatever martial art you please.


Yeah, I do want to be able to do that. Do I want to fight EVERY time someone starts problems? NO. However, there are times when you need to stand up to bullies. I have several bullies who need standing up to. I would like to be able to tell them to give it their best shot. Even if I lose, being able to stand up to bullies is usually enough.

And that's also from experience.

Last time I stood up to a bully, he kept trying to mess with me after he won. I told him "Enz, you and I both know you can whip my ass... but if you don't stop messing with me, you're going to have to do it again." Never had another problem with the guy after that.

Just because you've been in bad situations doesn't mean it is better to live with fear controlling you. Even if YOU think that the fear is better, I don't. I can't live with fear controlling me. That's how I chose to live MY life.


What in the world are you talking about..........


Either you're dense, trying to be an asshole, or I explained it bad.

Basically, I'm saying that sometimes the fight is necessary. When it is, I don't want fear keeping me from fighting a fight that needs to be fought.

ALSO, being ABLE to do something doesn't mean you do it just because you can.


Here's what I think. I think you just wanted to disagree with me for the sake of being disagreeable.

So, I guess have a good day.

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Bryaugh wrote:

Looks like you have thought it through pretty well. Although, the mood around a structured fight is different from a thug or asshole picking a fight with you in a bar or on the street, having more experience with taking and giving beatings will help.

Also the important thing is conditioning your response to the feeling of fear; how you act or react to the fear you feel. It may be helpful to rehearse imaginary situations and how you react in them. A lot of mental preperation may be a part of what you are looking for. It may sound stupid, but mental training does have an effect. That's why rituals have been popular for thousands of years.


If you know of any specific practices, I'd love to take a look at them.

I don't mind walking away from a fight, if it is unnecessary.... but I don't want to walk away from a fight if that means changing the way I live my life to suit that person, because they think they can bully me into doing what they want. You know what I mean?


As for specifics, basically you imagine the situation that causes anxiety. Think of actions you can take and their consequences. Do that with tweaks to variables, or differences in the situation to broaden your repertoire of reactions. Rehearse, basically daydream the actions that you think have good outcomes. Repeat, like practicing an instrument a little each week. This kind of mental training is complimentary to your physical training. Sometimes in sports it's called "visualizing".

Fear and anxiety are often caused by not knowing the consequences of events, or not knowing a way to create a good outcome. Imagining a path or series of decisions that leads to an outcome you want will help clear away some fears. Preparing for many variables will reduce the amount of unknown, and reduce fear.

Or I may be full of shit, but that's (rehearsing imaginary situations) how I've prepared for emergency / unexpected situations while riding a motorcycle, and so far it's helped me I think. Rather than being overcome by panic I was able to react in a way that saved my life atleast twice, and avoided several very bad days. While I use it for fending off a panic reaction the principal should apply to reducing anxiety or fear.
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You should probably start with jiu jitsu or muy thai or something as a base, then go into mma. A strong foundation builds a better house if you will. I don't think it will completely wipe out your fear I mean who wants to lose a fight? But it should give you more confidence in yourself that you can take on whom ever you need to.
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As for specifics, basically you imagine the situation that causes anxiety. Think of actions you can take and their consequences. Do that with tweaks to variables, or differences in the situation to broaden your repertoire of reactions. Rehearse, basically daydream the actions that you think have good outcomes. Repeat, like practicing an instrument a little each week. This kind of mental training is complimentary to your physical training. Sometimes in sports it's called "visualizing".

Fear and anxiety are often caused by not knowing the consequences of events, or not knowing a way to create a good outcome. Imagining a path or series of decisions that leads to an outcome you want will help clear away some fears. Preparing for many variables will reduce the amount of unknown, and reduce fear.

Or I may be full of shit, but that's (rehearsing imaginary situations) how I've prepared for emergency / unexpected situations while riding a motorcycle, and so far it's helped me I think. Rather than being overcome by panic I was able to react in a way that saved my life atleast twice, and avoided several very bad days. While I use it for fending off a panic reaction the principal should apply to reducing anxiety or fear.


eh. Already do that. A lot. Without trying.

Also, I don't freeze up while fighting, just act like a little bitch before. So, not sure how well this will work. Not even really sure what I'm afraid of... to be honest.
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You should probably start with jiu jitsu or muy thai or something as a base, then go into mma. A strong foundation builds a better house if you will. I don't think it will completely wipe out your fear I mean who wants to lose a fight? But it should give you more confidence in yourself that you can take on whom ever you need to.


Ideally, I would train in at least one martial art, while sparring in MMA fashion, and learning other MMA stuff.

The only thing I know any of at the moment is very basic Karate and some MCMAP.

Even so, I'm looking at a MINOR organized fight no sooner than 2 years from now.
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Irishsushi wrote:

You should probably start with jiu jitsu or muy thai or something as a base, then go into mma. A strong foundation builds a better house if you will. I don't think it will completely wipe out your fear I mean who wants to lose a fight? But it should give you more confidence in yourself that you can take on whom ever you need to.


Ideally, I would train in at least one martial art, while sparring in MMA fashion.

Even so, I'm looking at a MINOR organized fight no sooner than 2 years from now.


Well I've thought of doing the same thing, I watch ufc and it gets me hyped. Most people are turned off by the fact you could get your ass kicked, but in my mind It doesn't bother me. You just train so that you dont lose. If you only train in one thing your eventually gonna get shit on by someone. That being said there is only so much you can do in 2 years. I'd strongly advise you learn some wrestling or judo/jiu-jitsu out of anything. That's my plan of attack.
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