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I want to attack and invade Quebec. So whoever allows me to do that.
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Call me old-fashioned, but at heart I remain a Monarchist.
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Supposedly:


I would guess myself a bit more conservative.
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me? well.... its a little complicated.
I'm the hero the united states deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So they'll hunt me. Because I can take it. Because I'm not your hero. I am a silent guardian, a watchful protector. A constitutionalist.

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"Condescending"
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I don't want to put all my eggs in one basket since this is a very complicated subject, but I also don't want to get into extended arguments about what this or that term means again. So here you go, Blue Oni's political compass as of today:



I'm no anarchist, but I am legitimately deep in liberal (as in free) territory. The state shouldn't be able to tell people what they may do in the privacy of their own bedrooms, the state shouldn't be enforcing a particular religion's views on anyone, the state should be limited in its ability to regulate speech (though it shouldn't be entirely kept from regulating speech), the state should be made to allow properly trained, law abiding, mentally stable people to keep firearms provided they do so safely and responsibly, the state should be tightly constrained in a lot of ways in my view. So when you see that "authoritarianism/libertarianism" score bordering on -6 that just means I think the government's role in peoples' personal lives should be very strictly limited.

I also hold that representative democracy and/or direct democracy (if we're looking at a small enough system) are absolutely essential for legitimate governance, and that elections should be open, fairly conducted, and held as frequently as is reasonably possible while still allowing sufficient time for winners to enact policy. Parliamentarism and proportional representation are systems I favour over presidentialism and winner-take-all schemes, but the former contrast depends a lot more on where you're looking at. Parliamentarism wouldn't really fly in the US since separation of and rivalry between the executive and legislature are considered so important there, for example.

I think there is a major role for the community at large to play in economic life (hence the economic score of nearly -7), though I tend toward market distribution over rationing and independent cooperative enterprise owned and managed by labourers at the local level over a state controlled network of firms. The state's role in my ideal vision of society is, therefore, principally regulatory, and its direct involvement in the economy would more or less be limited to transfers involving things best provided by the public sector like utilities, national security, law enforcement, judicial services, and so on. The state would also have a role in maintaining a minimum standard of living for the sake of preserving public health, promoting education, and maintaining productivity, and therefore services such as a single-payer national healthcare system, tuition free education programmes extending through the tertiary level, housing/food/utility provisions, and guarantees for vacation/sick leave/maternity leave are things I support. I also support strong environmental regulations. Arguably this makes me a democratic socialist when everything's considered in aggregate, but there are socialists who would argue that the system I have described is still capitalist in nature. That's the argument I'd sooner avoid.

So there it is. Make of it what you will, I'm still learning and changing as time goes on just like the rest of us. This is just a snapshot of right now.


moonhawk81 wrote:

Call me old-fashioned, but at heart I remain a Monarchist.


*fluffs powdered wig*

I say, it's about time enlightened despotism got a long overdue nod and wink.
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BlueOni wrote:

I don't want to put all my eggs in one basket since this is a very complicated subject, but I also don't want to get into extended arguments about what this or that term means again. So here you go, Blue Oni's political compass as of today:



I'm no anarchist, but I am legitimately deep in liberal (as in free) territory. The state shouldn't be able to tell people what they may do in the privacy of their own bedrooms, the state shouldn't be enforcing a particular religion's views on anyone, the state should be limited in its ability to regulate speech (though it shouldn't be entirely kept from regulating speech), the state should be made to allow properly trained, law abiding, mentally stable to keep firearms provided they do so safely and responsibly, the state should be tightly constrained in a lot of ways in my view. So when you see that "authoritarianism/libertarianism" score bordering on -6 that just means I think the government's role in peoples' personal lives should be very strictly limited. I also hold that representative democracy and/or direct democracy (if we're looking at a small enough system) are absolutely essential for legitimate governance, and that elections should be open, fairly conducted, and held as frequently as is reasonably possible while still allowing sufficient time for winners to enact policy. Parliamentarism and proportional representation are systems I favour over presidentialism and winner-take-all schemes, but the former contrast depends a lot more on where you're looking at. Parliamentarism wouldn't really fly in the US since separation of and rivalry between the executive and legislature are considered so important there, for example.

I think there is a major role for the community at large to play in economic life (hence the economic score of nearly -7), though I tend toward market distribution over rationing and independent cooperative enterprise owned and managed by labourers at the local level over a state controlled network of firms. The state's role in my ideal vision of society is, therefore, principally regulatory, and its direct involvement in the economy would more or less be limited to transfers involving things best provided by the public sector like utilities, national security, law enforcement, judicial services, and so on. Arguably this makes me a democratic socialist, but there are socialists who would argue that the system I have described is still capitalist in nature. That's the argument I'd sooner avoid.

So there it is. Make of it what you will, I'm still learning and changing as time goes on just like the rest of us. This is just a snapshot of right now.


moonhawk81 wrote:

Call me old-fashioned, but at heart I remain a Monarchist.


*fluffs powdered wig*

I say, it's about time enlightened despotism got a long overdue nod and wink.


How right you are!

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I identify as a progressive, but I don't really attach too much importance to labels and the sort. If I agree with you then I agree with you and if I disagree with you then I disagree with you.


SatoMadoka wrote:

It's the views that matter, not the label


^ This.
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This must be old. Last I checked, progressivism was authoritarian left.


I believe this is half a year old. It is pretty new.
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Libertarian has changed a lot over the years... I'm too tired of politics especially with the candidates this season that don't really impress me too much... I'd have to say I am sane, but I lean toward whatever brings us back to the classical meaning of being a Republic; Res Publica, Latin for Affairs of the State... I identify myself as a Classical Liberal
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I would identify myself as Classical Liberal. Nowadays that seems to be slightly right libertarian.
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I never hide the fact that I lean right

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