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No idea quite honestly
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Not much have changed since 5-6 years ago when I first heard about political compass, just my realization that I am much farther left than both main political parties of the USA...
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Nope progressive has been and will always fall towards anarchy this is do to the fact it tends to be more open when it comes to the society. Fewer actual rules when dealing with social issues like sex and drugs and things like abortion in America. More personal liberties more freedom but with a strong sense of social responsibility.

That said I'm an anarcho-socialist socially responsible of course as well as personally you have to do both to have a free society.


So "Progressives" aren't even progressives. Well shit. Not only do they pretend to be liberal, but they also pretend to be progressives.


No you are just using the word incorrectly. The second one is what I use when refer to progressive which as I stated tends towards freedom and more toward anarchy since being more open to new ideas tends to lead that way. After all the very notion of self governance is a very progressive idea. Totally radical at the time it was suggested.



But the people who label themselves as "Progressives" (NOTE THE AIR QUOTES HERE!) are anti-freedom, and are not open minded at all.


Nope all for freedom and progress and begin progressive. Like to know who you hear begin said is progressive and isn't for that. Unless you are thinking about how folks like me would like to have the boot of government firmly on the neck of business so when they screw up they get their day in court and if they are found guilty the neck gets snapped. See businesses aren't people they need to be responsible to the society they are part of currently we have a bunch of businesses that could give a rats backside to being responsible to the society they are part of.

Now if you mean taking guns away not really into that either unless you are a felon or have a current active restraining order which gives you your day in court to defend yourself at least here in Washington state http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=26.50.070
Now I have linked to the actual law in this case and you can see that there is a hearing in which the party filing the order has to show cause. Now the reason for the surrender of weapons in the case of a restraining order is simple a large number of murders actually mass shootings are caused by ex's that go on a bender and well kill folks. This doesn't stop freedom or restrict it but protects it for those being threatened. Can't be free if you are dead. http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/when-domestic-violence-becomes-a-mass-shooting/Content?oid=17004357

Nope all for freedom and folks being socially and personally responsible which includes business as well.
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Nope all for freedom and progress and begin progressive. Like to know who you hear begin said is progressive and isn't for that. Unless you are thinking about how folks like me would like to have the boot of government firmly on the neck of business so when they screw up they get their day in court and if they are found guilty the neck gets snapped. See businesses aren't people they need to be responsible to the society they are part of currently we have a bunch of businesses that could give a rats backside to being responsible to the society they are part of.

Now if you mean taking guns away not really into that either unless you are a felon or have a current active restraining order which gives you your day in court to defend yourself at least here in Washington state http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=26.50.070
Now I have linked to the actual law in this case and you can see that there is a hearing in which the party filing the order has to show cause. Now the reason for the surrender of weapons in the case of a restraining order is simple a large number of murders actually mass shootings are caused by ex's that go on a bender and well kill folks. This doesn't stop freedom or restrict it but protects it for those being threatened. Can't be free if you are dead. http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/when-domestic-violence-becomes-a-mass-shooting/Content?oid=17004357

Nope all for freedom and folks being socially and personally responsible which includes business as well.


Fine. Third wave feminism is all about freedom. Right.
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gvblackmoon wrote:

Nope all for freedom and progress and begin progressive. Like to know who you hear begin said is progressive and isn't for that. Unless you are thinking about how folks like me would like to have the boot of government firmly on the neck of business so when they screw up they get their day in court and if they are found guilty the neck gets snapped. See businesses aren't people they need to be responsible to the society they are part of currently we have a bunch of businesses that could give a rats backside to being responsible to the society they are part of.

Now if you mean taking guns away not really into that either unless you are a felon or have a current active restraining order which gives you your day in court to defend yourself at least here in Washington state http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=26.50.070
Now I have linked to the actual law in this case and you can see that there is a hearing in which the party filing the order has to show cause. Now the reason for the surrender of weapons in the case of a restraining order is simple a large number of murders actually mass shootings are caused by ex's that go on a bender and well kill folks. This doesn't stop freedom or restrict it but protects it for those being threatened. Can't be free if you are dead. http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/when-domestic-violence-becomes-a-mass-shooting/Content?oid=17004357

Nope all for freedom and folks being socially and personally responsible which includes business as well.


Fine. Third wave feminism is all about freedom. Right.


It is about equality which is about freedom which is progressive. Equality in a society is about freedom both personally and politically. They go hand in hand. Oh anything from the Austrian school of economics is flawed since it fails to take into account social responsibility of the individual and corporation this also includes Ayn Rand and her philosophy and the Chicago School of economics. No really if they tout how it is only about personal responsibility and ignore social they are flawed in their logic since you require both for a society to work.

http://www.americanbar.org/groups/civics/freedom_and_equality.html


The more equal a society in the law and economics and in political power the more free it is. Want the proof look as Sweden more equal more freedom but there is also more social responsibility as well.

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gvblackmoon wrote:

It is about equality which is about freedom which is progressive. Equality in a society is about freedom both personally and politically. They go hand in hand. Oh anything from the Austrian school of economics is flawed since it fails to take into account social responsibility of the individual and corporation this also includes Ayn Rand and her philosophy and the Chicago School of economics. No really if they tout how it is only about personal responsibility and ignore social they are flawed in their logic since you require both for a society to work.

http://www.americanbar.org/groups/civics/freedom_and_equality.html


The more equal a society in the law and economics and in political power the more free it is. Want the proof look as Sweden more equal more freedom but there is also more social responsibility as well.



Fine. I'll assume you're right then. Discriminating based on gender, race, and mental illness, is freedom. I just hope the male side of the bus is at the front. I hate sitting at the back.
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Leaning libertarian. Freedom of speech should be protected at all costs as it's the only thing that can lead to change when needs be. I agree with gun control but I'm generally libertarian on social policy. I'm socialist economically though - a limited capitalist system is the best way to go in my opinion.
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Buckerss wrote:


gvblackmoon wrote:

It is about equality which is about freedom which is progressive. Equality in a society is about freedom both personally and politically. They go hand in hand. Oh anything from the Austrian school of economics is flawed since it fails to take into account social responsibility of the individual and corporation this also includes Ayn Rand and her philosophy and the Chicago School of economics. No really if they tout how it is only about personal responsibility and ignore social they are flawed in their logic since you require both for a society to work.

http://www.americanbar.org/groups/civics/freedom_and_equality.html


The more equal a society in the law and economics and in political power the more free it is. Want the proof look as Sweden more equal more freedom but there is also more social responsibility as well.



Fine. I'll assume you're right then. Discriminating based on gender, race, and mental illness, is freedom. I just hope the male side of the bus is at the front. I hate sitting at the back.


Actually all discrimination is about power taking it from others and onto yourself it is not about freedom which requires those who have power to give it up and treat those that don't to more fairly. It is really simple your rights start and end at your nose that begin and end at the other guys fist. How you are treated by other is how those rights are violated begin nice to others cost you nothing and has a great number of returns. Now sitting in the back of the bus isn't bad after all you are getting to sit, after all it isn't about where you sit but how you are treated on the bus.
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I'm libertarian, as well as conservative.
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I am actually the incarnate of Margaret Thatcher.

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PeripheralVisionary wrote:




I am actually the incarnate of Margaret Thatcher.



Hitler is that you?
Posted 12/21/15 , edited 12/21/15

GrandMasterTime wrote:


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I am actually the incarnate of Margaret Thatcher.



Hitler is that you?


Apparently Hitler was more authoritarian but more moderate in his Left>Right Ideals. Apparently. Seeing as how I don't think Thatcherite Britain knowingly execute dissenters much like Nazi Germany offed the White Rose and Hubener, who were pretty much teenagers at the time of their execution, I don't doubt it. Interesting how both gave rise to books like Moore's Watchmen or Maus.



P.S. I just figured out how to get an internet connection in good ol North Korea. Now to hate on this inferior Japanese animation. All heil Kim Jung Sun!
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:


GrandMasterTime wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:




I am actually the incarnate of Margaret Thatcher.



Hitler is that you?


Apparently Hitler was more authoritarian but more moderate in his Left>Right Ideals. Apparently. Seeing as how I don't think Thatcherite Britain knowingly execute dissenters much like Nazi Germany offed the White Rose and Hubener, who were pretty much teenagers at the time of their execution, I don't doubt it. Interesting how both gave rise too books like Moore's Watchmen or Maus.


Oh so he would be further up to the left, I see. Thatcher seems scary.

Edit: And by the left I don't mean in the left corner but slightly more left than were your dot is sitting at.
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