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I can't say for sure, but my guess is that since US imigration requirements are quite strict, most people obtaining a green card are either highly educated giving them a better chance to score big on the job market or likely already have a well paying job there or are in a financial position where they can support themselves without having to look for a job directly.

Apart from that, a lot of the stuff over there is a LOT cheaper than it is here in Europe.


In small cities and towns it can be very cheap but the cities are crazy expensive and part of that is wealthy foreigners bidding up all the property so working class citizens are pushed out. I think only citizens should be allowed to buy property.


Another day, another another racist/xenophobic post. If you spent the same time and energy studying and trying to better yourself that you put into mindless bigotry and hate you'd be making more than $10/hour. But like most poor, white, conservatives you'd rather blame people who are different a race/nationality/religion/gender than you for why you have never and will never amount to anything.
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Now to add some validity to your claim, one could ask specifically about the Syrian refugees. I heard they get housing. Can anyone confirm or disprove this?


Well you heard it, so it must be true.

I have a suggestion - google it. It took me 15 seconds to get the answer.

Posted 12/22/15 , edited 12/22/15

md4124 wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Now to add some validity to your claim, one could ask specifically about the Syrian refugees. I heard they get housing. Can anyone confirm or disprove this?


Well you heard it, so it must be true.

I have a suggestion - google it. It took me 15 seconds to get the answer.



Wow, way to be a dick. I was just trying to add some validity to the OP's claim, regardless of our different views.

Though I did find the answer.


Each refugee receives a stipend of about $1,000 to cover their first three months in the U.S. Before an individual or family arrives, the local resettlement organizations work to find a suitable apartment. They ensure the rent will be affordable and are in charge of distributing the stipend to cover the costs of rent for three months. They are not placed in special apartment blocks and do not receive special rates.

"[The housing] is on the open market. We're trying to rent apartments just like anybody else," says Stacie Blake of the U.S. Committee for Refugee and Immigrants. "There's nothing special or privileged about that."

After three months, refugees are responsible for paying rent as normal tenants in their apartment buildings and are also free to move elsewhere within the city or state or to another state altogether.
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Isn't the whole point of the American dream that it's possible to go from rags to riches through hard work, no matter who you are or where you are from?

At some point in history at least the US was supposed to stand for that. Maybe the small print somewhere always warned: "Riches include envy from less successful people"
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Most of those better off foreigners are European or Asian right? The Euro was close to double in worth to the dollar last year and the pound is nearly worth twice as much as the US dollar so it isn't so strange. Plus, most of the foreigners from Asia and Europe are usually fairly rich back in their home country anyways.
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md4124 wrote:


biscuitnote wrote:


George_z wrote:

I can't say for sure, but my guess is that since US imigration requirements are quite strict, most people obtaining a green card are either highly educated giving them a better chance to score big on the job market or likely already have a well paying job there or are in a financial position where they can support themselves without having to look for a job directly.

Apart from that, a lot of the stuff over there is a LOT cheaper than it is here in Europe.


In small cities and towns it can be very cheap but the cities are crazy expensive and part of that is wealthy foreigners bidding up all the property so working class citizens are pushed out. I think only citizens should be allowed to buy property.


Another day, another another racist/xenophobic post. If you spent the same time and energy studying and trying to better yourself that you put into mindless bigotry and hate you'd be making more than $10/hour. But like most poor, white, conservatives you'd rather blame people who are different a race/nationality/religion/gender than you for why you have never and will never amount to anything.


Sorry your logic is idiotic most of the world doesn't allow foreigners to buy property in their home countries. Why should we be any different when did foreigners become more important than the people who live in the country?
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n00bsaib0t wrote:

I'm pretty sure every single post this guy makes is intended to troll everyone. Also, I'm almost certain immigrants that are not citizens cannot buy property, so I'm not sure what you're worried about other than just plain xenophobia.


So because I am not some leftist I am trolling?
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We learned it from our xenophobic European ancestors.


I've been to London, Paris , and Berlin. The Europeans didn't seem that xenophobic to me. The French a little bit, think the sub par French the army taught me might have insulted them though.


I'd say they're equal. If you look at their treatment of the local roma populations and whats going on involving the influx of immigrants and refugee's it shows that they're just as xenophobic as us.

Plus I was referring to past European's who were probably 10x more xenophobic than they are now.
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I'd say they're equal. If you look at their treatment of the local roma populations and whats going on involving the influx of immigrants and refugee's it shows that they're just as xenophobic as us.

Plus I was referring to past European's who were probably 10x more xenophobic than they are now.


The Roma are a largely transient population, many of whom have been in trouble with local law enforcement agencies. With that sort of track record I hardly think a little suspicion is unwarranted. As for the recent refugee influx, they are from regions either under direct ISIS control or currently involved in conflict with ISIS. It is simply common sense not to welcome what is a security risk with open arms and smiles.
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IMMIGRANTS TAKING MUH JOBS AND MONEY
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Now i cant speak much for the other two but Chicago is a rat hole that most people in IL despise. From what i hear NYC is not much better
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So much entitlement and arrogance everything wrong with this generation . . .
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Pixywing wrote: with this generation . . .
here we go agian.. "with this generation"

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Posted 12/22/15

Irishsushi wrote:


Ranwolf wrote:


Irishsushi wrote:


We learned it from our xenophobic European ancestors.


I've been to London, Paris , and Berlin. The Europeans didn't seem that xenophobic to me. The French a little bit, think the sub par French the army taught me might have insulted them though.


I'd say they're equal. If you look at their treatment of the local roma populations and whats going on involving the influx of immigrants and refugee's it shows that they're just as xenophobic as us.

Plus I was referring to past European's who were probably 10x more xenophobic than they are now.

I think American xenophobia is greatly overstated, if anything. The law in France banning wearing hijab outside the home, for example, wouldn't fly in America. That would get an instant First Amendment takedown.
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I stumbled upon a pretty good comic related to this about privilege a while a go.
http://thewireless.co.nz/articles/the-pencilsword-on-a-plate

Just a good thing to think about before calling all the less successful people lazy.
Some of them might have worked harder for what they have than most of us ever will.



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