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kamaitachi5587 wrote: I believe that is called an orgy.
damn it .org! oh waiit.. damn it...

also I liked this one:

[News] WTF - Mall of America files Restraining Order against #BlackLivesMatter?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VywKL0Pnmcs

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The irony here is that, because the mall is expecting a protest, every black person that enters the mall will be looked on with suspicion, fueling even more racism.

My problem with calling something a 'movement' or getting involved in a 'movement' is that it takes attention away from the ideas and brings attention to the fact that, simply, a lot of people are doing something. It makes it seem kind of like a fashion statement, like--"A lot of people are involved in this, so it's important.' To give an unrelated example, when people talk about atheism, they're talking about a stance on certain beliefs. When people talk about 'the atheism movement,' however, they're talking about something a lot of people are doing. The ideas expressed become less important than the fact that there's a lot of people involved. This is why, as an atheist, I'm a little bitter about people claiming they are a part of an 'atheist movement.' To me it's irrelevant, and distracts from the core message.

It's also why, looking at the topic at hand, I think Black Lives Matter has an incredibly reasonable set of ideas at it's core. They raise issues that need to be raised. Often, joining a movement can give one a sense of meaning, a feeling that one is doing something important. However, when 'the movement' becomes more important than the ideas behind it, then one feels a need to keep the movement going, ignoring whether it's actions are still supported by the same ideas. One feels 'something must be done,' it doesn't matter what. After all, if Black Lives Matter ceases to do something, doesn't that mean they're admitting that Black Lives don't Matter? Obviously that's ridiculous, but I think something of this nature often happens inside social movements, where keeping the movement going becomes more important than it's message.

I think that something similar is happening in Black Lives Matter right now, but at the same time, it's not like they have no reason for the protest. They have very good reasons to be upset, but I think they may be starting to lose sight of the roots of the movement. This quote in particular worries me:

"Us not showing up and us not speaking would be the mall winning."

It's not about winning. When you start to think about things in terms of wins and losses for the movement, you start to look away from the ideas you're trying to communicate. This protest may or may not be a good way to communicate their frustration, but it seems as though, regardless, they're more worried about their pride. Which sucks because they actually do have a legitimate message.




They have no reasonable demands.


They literally are a group formed at outrage of murderous thugs being treated as murderous thugs.


They create situations where they increase hostility between the races and then use that as justification for their existence.


The only good thing to come from them is people are realizing that the Left creates monsters like this, enables monsters like this, and the Left has the audacity to take no responsibility for it.


Revoking the power the Left has on our society and politics is the only way to actually address these issues.
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maxgale wrote: They have no reasonable demands.

They create situations where they increase hostility between the races and then use that as justification for their existence.


The only good thing to come from them is people are realizing that the Left creates monsters like this, enables monsters like this, and the Left has the audacity to take no responsibility for it.
yeah.
making more the mess then what they should, but mostly the same idotic troubling teens... (or I think they are the same ones)

Confronting the BlackLivesMatter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulk-DWECDDo



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maxgale wrote: They have no reasonable demands.

They create situations where they increase hostility between the races and then use that as justification for their existence.


The only good thing to come from them is people are realizing that the Left creates monsters like this, enables monsters like this, and the Left has the audacity to take no responsibility for it.
yeah.
making more the mess then what they should, but mostly the same idotic troubling teens... (or I think they are the same ones)

Confronting the BlackLivesMatter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulk-DWECDDo





Oh the irony of them not wanting to be filmed in PUBLIC, yet they're the first to record when anything involving police happens.


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Dick move on mall of Americas part.

So we can plan a party at your house and tell everyone about it despite you not wanting the party because your grandparents are visiting?


Mall of America has a every right to do it. Im saying in this case Mall of America should put forward an effort to support the movement.

Also your comparison is shoddy as fuck.
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megahobbit wrote:


Grauger wrote:


megahobbit wrote:

Dick move on mall of Americas part.

So we can plan a party at your house and tell everyone about it despite you not wanting the party because your grandparents are visiting?


Party=/= protest.

Still a gathering of people.
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megahobbit wrote: Im saying in this case Mall of America should put forward an effort to support the movement.
lol..
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Grauger wrote:


megahobbit wrote:


Grauger wrote:


megahobbit wrote:

Dick move on mall of Americas part.

So we can plan a party at your house and tell everyone about it despite you not wanting the party because your grandparents are visiting?


Party=/= protest.

Still a gathering of people.


Notice how I added on other stuff to the post.
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megahobbit wrote:


Grauger wrote:


megahobbit wrote:

Dick move on mall of Americas part.

So we can plan a party at your house and tell everyone about it despite you not wanting the party because your grandparents are visiting?


Mall of America has a every right to do it. Im saying in this case Mall of America should put forward an effort to support the movement.

Also your comparison is shoddy as fuck.




Why should MoA support a movement intent on harassing their customers?


The comparison works as well. BLM would be trespassing on private property during get togethers of families and other guests of the mall.
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maxgale wrote:


megahobbit wrote:


Grauger wrote:


megahobbit wrote:

Dick move on mall of Americas part.

So we can plan a party at your house and tell everyone about it despite you not wanting the party because your grandparents are visiting?


Mall of America has a every right to do it. Im saying in this case Mall of America should put forward an effort to support the movement.

Also your comparison is shoddy as fuck.




Why should MoA support a movement intent on harassing their customers?


The comparison works as well. BLM would be trespassing on private property during get togethers of families and other guests of the mall.


Bug off.
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megahobbit wrote:


Grauger wrote:


megahobbit wrote:


Grauger wrote:


megahobbit wrote:

Dick move on mall of Americas part.

So we can plan a party at your house and tell everyone about it despite you not wanting the party because your grandparents are visiting?


Party=/= protest.

Still a gathering of people.


Notice how I added on other stuff to the post.

Ok?
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Okay lets start this over. I do not think that Mall of America has to do this but I think they should do it. They have a right to deny BLM I wish that they let them in.
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Okay lets start this over. I do not think that Mall of America has to do this but I think they should do it. They have a right to deny BLM I wish that they let them in.

Fair enough.
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megahobbit wrote: I do not think that Mall of America has to do this but I think they should do it. They have a right to deny BLM I wish that they let them in.
they should not.... its not good for them... ugh..
and I think they know..

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