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So i have been thinking about Transhumanism and the human race and i thought.
We have a divide between sex and gender....we will one day have the power to change humans and force evolution.
Would it be such a bad idea to make humans Neither male or female and give us the ability to reproduce with another person
Our gender would be Neutral so to speak.
I feel if that eventually happens over time with human forced evolution ...it would break the divide between men and women.
Of course there are alot of ethical issues with this etc but i thought it was an interesting thing to think on as it would solve sexism so to speak.





Now i doubt this will happen in our lifetime but it could become a possibility in the future as in theory it would work.
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Feminists would still claim it's unfair. Well, the crazy extremists would.
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The problem with this is that it overlooks the fact that people would still appear female or male in a outward manner so to speak. Even then, if you were to completely alter their appearances, most people will still carry with them the little quirks and nuances that make a person female or male.....

For instance, emotions. Men typically, naturally, suppress many forms of emotion. Some willingly, other times not so willingly. Usually our emotions are released through more creative means, or even destructive in some cases.

Women, do no such thing. There is no filter or even a barrier. Case and point: Every hyper feminist SJW ever.

Finally, It just doesn't matter what kind of who haw you have on the outside, as we are always male or female on the inside, at least until horomone therapy is used, and even that isn't 100%.

No, the only time and place where sexism will cease to exist, is when there is a mutual understanding between the sexes. Some might hate me for saying this, but the bible kind of introduced a mutual understanding of sorts. It wasn't the right one, by any means, but it was a mutual understanding, and it helped keep us from tearing each other a new one each and every day over trivial stupid fucking bullshit.

So, how about people just start looking at facts, instead of believing their ideals. Because Ideals are just puffed up opinions, and most opinions are usually wrong since they aren't educated opinions. Some of you might point to what I write here and say the same thing to me. The difference between what I write and an Opinion, is that I only write down what is common basic fact. Facts that unless you are a complete moron, are easy to understand by anyone.

TL:DR (I leave these for morons who cannot bother to read more than 2 or 3 sentences.) Everyone is different, no matter how much you try to change that fact. So instead of trying to change people. instead change your own opinion through education, since your life problems usually revolve around that one thing alone. Your opinion, and everyone elses.

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CrownedSonofFire wrote:

The problem with this is that it overlooks the fact that people would still appear female or male in a outward manner so to speak. Even then, if you were to completely alter their appearances, most people will still carry with them the little quirks and nuances that make a person female or male.....

For instance, emotions. Men typically, naturally, suppress many forms of emotion. Some willingly, other times not so willingly. Usually our emotions are released through more creative means, or even destructive in some cases.

Women, do no such thing. There is no filter or even a barrier. Case and point: Every hyper feminist SJW ever.

Finally, It just doesn't matter what kind of who haw you have on the outside, as we are always male or female on the inside, at least until horomone therapy is used, and even that isn't 100%.

No, the only time and place where sexism will cease to exist, is when there is a mutual understanding between the sexes. Some might hate me for saying this, but the bible kind of introduced a mutual understanding of sorts. It wasn't the right one, by any means, but it was a mutual understanding, and it helped keep us from tearing each other a new one each and every day over trivial stupid fucking bullshit.

So, how about people just start looking at facts, instead of believing their ideals. Because Ideals are just puffed up opinions, and most opinions are usually wrong since they aren't educated opinions. Some of you might point to what I write here and say the same thing to me. The difference between what I write and an Opinion, is that I only write down what is common basic fact. Facts that unless you are a complete moron, are easy to understand by anyone.

TL:DR (I leave these for morons who cannot bother to read more than 2 or 3 sentences.) Everyone is different, no matter how much you try to change that fact. So instead of trying to change people. instead change your own opinion through education, since your life problems usually revolve around that one thing alone. Your opinion, and everyone elses.



That's very true and one of the things you really can't change even if we all became one sex we would split into gender groups by default i guess.
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Theoretically, if we were to make every human being exactly the same, we would do away with most of those prejudices, but I think that would also go A long Way towards making us not human...
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no thanks, i want to hold hands with grade A, 100% female. Now and 10 gazillion years from now.
Some one has been watching to much Knights of Sidonia
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CrownedSonofFire wrote:

The problem with this is that it overlooks the fact that people would still appear female or male in a outward manner so to speak. Even then, if you were to completely alter their appearances, most people will still carry with them the little quirks and nuances that make a person female or male.....

For instance, emotions. Men typically, naturally, suppress many forms of emotion. Some willingly, other times not so willingly. Usually our emotions are released through more creative means, or even destructive in some cases.

Women, do no such thing. There is no filter or even a barrier. Case and point: Every hyper feminist SJW ever.

Finally, It just doesn't matter what kind of who haw you have on the outside, as we are always male or female on the inside, at least until horomone therapy is used, and even that isn't 100%.

No, the only time and place where sexism will cease to exist, is when there is a mutual understanding between the sexes. Some might hate me for saying this, but the bible kind of introduced a mutual understanding of sorts. It wasn't the right one, by any means, but it was a mutual understanding, and it helped keep us from tearing each other a new one each and every day over trivial stupid fucking bullshit.

So, how about people just start looking at facts, instead of believing their ideals. Because Ideals are just puffed up opinions, and most opinions are usually wrong since they aren't educated opinions. Some of you might point to what I write here and say the same thing to me. The difference between what I write and an Opinion, is that I only write down what is common basic fact. Facts that unless you are a complete moron, are easy to understand by anyone.

TL:DR (I leave these for morons who cannot bother to read more than 2 or 3 sentences.) Everyone is different, no matter how much you try to change that fact. So instead of trying to change people. instead change your own opinion through education, since your life problems usually revolve around that one thing alone. Your opinion, and everyone elses.



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There no solution for that. You will need to control people will but that no what we want.
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I think people will always find a way to hate each other.
This holy book does a good job of explaining
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I'm happy with the way we are. Men and women are different and that's what makes us great together. I wouldn't want to be the same as everybody else. I don't want to be as strong as a man, I enjoy my femininity and I love masculine men.

These battle between the sexes is stupid and like someone said before, the only solution is to change your mindset.
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It's simple. Give everyone a penis.
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Ryulightorb wrote:

So i have been thinking about Transhumanism and the human race and i thought.
We have a divide between sex and gender....we will one day have the power to change humans and force evolution.
Would it be such a bad idea to make humans Neither male or female and give us the ability to reproduce with another person
Our gender would be Neutral so to speak.
I feel if that eventually happens over time with human forced evolution ...it would break the divide between men and women.
Of course there are alot of ethical issues with this etc but i thought it was an interesting thing to think on as it would solve sexism so to speak.





Now i doubt this will happen in our lifetime but it could become a possibility in the future as in theory it would work.


If we come to that level of genetic modification, I would be very happy to call a modified from male to female woman a woman.... because that's what that person would be. However, if would take more than just modifying genes... If would also take undoing puberty and sending the patient through a second maturity.... which I see being damned near impossible.


PERSONALLY, my solution is we just realize that men like boobs, and woman are into other things.... and be happy with however people decide to live their lives. That doesn't mean calling a spade or heart a heart or spade. It just means being ok that I guy wants to modify his body to be female

On the other hand, people need to realize that as far as you can go, so far, is to modify your body and act a certain way.... and that doesn't mean you ARE what you WANT to be... so stop asking everyone else to pretend it is so, or receive some form of punishment.


REALLY, I don't care how people choose to live, as long as they don't force everyone else to play along.

*shrug*
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sundin13 wrote:

Theoretically, if we were to make every human being exactly the same, we would do away with most of those prejudices, but I think that would also go A long Way towards making us not human...


If my religious beliefs are incorrect... then scientifically, we will one day no longer be Homo Sapien. I would bet this will be through scientific advancements long before natural selection runs its course. Not exactly pioneering new thought, here.
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HolyDrumstick wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:

So i have been thinking about Transhumanism and the human race and i thought.
We have a divide between sex and gender....we will one day have the power to change humans and force evolution.
Would it be such a bad idea to make humans Neither male or female and give us the ability to reproduce with another person
Our gender would be Neutral so to speak.
I feel if that eventually happens over time with human forced evolution ...it would break the divide between men and women.
Of course there are alot of ethical issues with this etc but i thought it was an interesting thing to think on as it would solve sexism so to speak.





Now i doubt this will happen in our lifetime but it could become a possibility in the future as in theory it would work.


If we come to that level of genetic modification, I would be very happy to call a modified from male to female woman a woman.... because that's what that person would be. However, if would take more than just modifying genes... If would also take undoing puberty and sending the patient through a second maturity.... which I see being damned near impossible.


PERSONALLY, my solution is we just realize that men like boobs, and woman are into other things.... and be happy with however people decide to live their lives. That doesn't mean calling a spade or heart a heart or spade. It just means being ok that I guy wants to modify his body to be female

On the other hand, people need to realize that as far as you can go, so far, is to modify your body and act a certain way.... and that doesn't mean you ARE what you WANT to be... so stop asking everyone else to pretend it is so, or receive some form of punishment.


REALLY, I don't care how people choose to live, as long as they don't force everyone else to play along.

*shrug*


so what should those who don't like there sex and cant accept it do?

commit suicide?
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Ryulightorb wrote:

so what should those who don't like there sex and cant accept it do?

commit suicide?


It is always suicide with you guys. The people you threaten with suicide, myself included, DON'T care. Sure, we'd rather you NOT, but we aren't going to hold your hands just because you threaten that.

Personally, I was thinking grow the hell up and realize that reality is reality, and you can't change it, no matter what fits you throw.(WAHHHH, I'm going to kill myself)

We aren't asking you to NOT dress up and act like the opposite gender.... we're simply saying "Don't invite us to play pretend with you."
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