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ILuvCats11 wrote:

Kill all women or all men and sexism wont exist.


You do realize you could of just said kill all humans? In retrospect you could of just said "kill the sexists", and if that happens to leave nobody behind then so be it- off with the human race!
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idk just don't be sexist then, can't control and impose your ideas on everyone
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GodOfFlash wrote:


ILuvCats11 wrote:

Kill all women or all men and sexism wont exist.


You do realize you could of just said kill all humans? In retrospect you could of just said "kill the sexists", and if that happens to leave nobody behind then so be it- off with the human race!


Good point

Kill humans their dicks, let animals live in peace.
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Rodents ftw lolol
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amyhasabowtie wrote:

Also the current year is meanlingless, there is no timescale that dicates what humanity will do and think in a certain year

False. 2015 is most definitely the Year of the Offended.
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Ryulightorb wrote:

So i have been thinking about Transhumanism and the human race and i thought.
We have a divide between sex and gender....we will one day have the power to change humans and force evolution.
Would it be such a bad idea to make humans Neither male or female and give us the ability to reproduce with another person
Our gender would be Neutral so to speak.
I feel if that eventually happens over time with human forced evolution ...it would break the divide between men and women.
Of course there are alot of ethical issues with this etc but i thought it was an interesting thing to think on as it would solve sexism so to speak.



Now i doubt this will happen in our lifetime but it could become a possibility in the future as in theory it would work.


I will likely be a possibility within our lifetime, very likely I think. Making humans neither male nor female would be an interesting idea, but some people will clearly reject that thought, so I don't think having a single gender will happen anytime soon.

By the time that happens, I think 'sexism,' would be the least of our concerns, humans will force evolution in wild and crazy ways, to the point that many subspecies of humans( if we could even call them humans) will exist. There will be another layer or discrimination arising.

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sundin13 wrote:

@Ryulightorb: Does sexual reassignment surgery really help? From the research I have seen, those who undergo surgery are often very depressed, have high suicide rates and some regret the choice to undergo surgery. This implies a deeper psychological issue. There is nowhere near enough research for you to go around saying thatsurgery Is a solid medical treatment.


From all the research and testimonials I've seen from transpeople gender reassignment surgery does seem to help greatly. Secondly as someone who has read a lot of books on psychology Gender identity is likely more related to genetics and especially brain structure than any psychological issues. It's a very flawed way to look through at gender identity or sexual orientation.


As a biologist, I consider Psychology to be the manifestation of genetics and brain structure so we don't really disagree on that one even if you don't like my wording.

Anyways, I would love to see some of that research. Last time I spoke about this at length I came to the conclusion that research on the subject was woefully lacking, however here are some of the things I found:

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2004/jul/30/health.mentalhealth

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21364939

While there are other issues involved with sex changes (nothing exists in a vacuum), to treat Sexual reassignment surgery like some sort of cure-all just seems tremendously dangerous and misguided until there is a much, much stronger base of research to back that claim.


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sundin13 wrote:

@Ryulightorb: Does sexual reassignment surgery really help? From the research I have seen, those who undergo surgery are often very depressed, have high suicide rates and some regret the choice to undergo surgery. This implies a deeper psychological issue. There is nowhere near enough research for you to go around saying thatsurgery Is a solid medical treatment.


Well no it's not solid treatment but my point being is that is the only choice to help it right now.

It won't cure it but it does help alot of trans people cope but as you said alot of them regret it honestly the whole situation is that we don't know enough to be sure what we are dealing with.

The best we can do is respect the persons choice and them and if they asked not to be called something then simply don't be a dick.



Is it the only choice and even if it is, using it simply because it is all we have seem awfully medieval.

I agree that we should respect the person's choice socially, but medically and scientifically, I will continue to question it until I see something to demonstrate that it is a better option than the non-surgical options.
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As a biologist, I consider Psychology to be the manifestation of genetics and brain structure so we don't really disagree on that one even if you don't like my wording.


So nature, in the nature vs nurture argument? I personally feel like both play a part. Identical twins aren't exactly identical, you know.... though womb conditions, etc, make them a bit different anyway, relative to the space they inhabit in there.

Still, I think if you were to clone someone, that person could be raised to be a different person...and though they were a different person, some traits would still persist.

*shrug* That's my thoughts, anyway.
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Machines or something equivalent will eventually replace us bit by bit. How long until that will take is another debate.

But I immensely hate the identity politics that consumes people. It's extremely annoying.
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Theoretical solution to sexism

If there's no humans there's no sexism!
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HolyDrumstick wrote:

I request proof that gender disphoria is even commonly linked to genetics.

If you are a girl, you're a girl. If you're a guy, you're a guy. If you are unhappy and dissatisfied about that (the definition of disphoria)...well, that sucks. I have disphoria about my penis size. I live with it.


See my reply on the other thread.



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HolyDrumstick wrote:


sundin13 wrote:


As a biologist, I consider Psychology to be the manifestation of genetics and brain structure so we don't really disagree on that one even if you don't like my wording.


So nature, in the nature vs nurture argument? I personally feel like both play a part. Identical twins aren't exactly identical, you know.... though womb conditions, etc, make them a bit different anyway, relative to the space they inhabit in there.

Still, I think if you were to clone someone, that person could be raised to be a different person...and though they were a different person, some traits would still persist.

*shrug* That's my thoughts, anyway.


But how they react to and internalize that stimuli is determined By nature. Bear in mind that I'm not arguing a scientific position here, just explaining how i see the world.
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I agree. People would still find a reason to hate one another. Over religion, lifestyle, or the fact that your hair is blonde.

I also don't think the entire world, or even an entire country, would ever consent to that.
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I think the first way to go about it is get people to realize sex and gender are inherently same thing. None of this they are different because "blah blah blah" political garbage.

Secondly, the sexism, yes it needs to stop. Feminism needs to go. Men need to quit playing favorites at work and give raises based on work ethics.

Finally, it's not a bad theory. It might actually work. Only problem is everyone would be the same and there would never be anything unique about anyone.
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