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Post Reply An Open Letter to CR and CR members
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Posted 12/27/15 , edited 12/28/15
Every time there is a contest or promotion for new members only, there is a lot of complaining. Not all of it is unfounded though. There are often replies to the complaints in a similar vein as this reply which got me thinking;

Dragonlady0620 wrote:

I've been a member for 7 years. What have I got in return? The fact that I know that I'm supporting the people who make the anime that I love.


Guess what, we can do the same thing on any other site too, and usually CR is not the only distributor of their shows. The contests and store are what drew many of us long time users in to the site, but now there really isn't anything to keep us here. The savings in the store are ok, but many prices have steadily climbed to the point that it is sometimes cheaper to order overseas and pay the international shipping, DVD/Blu Ray box sets are not available almost as quickly as they can be pre-ordered, and the special grab bags have been getting replaced so that only new members can get many of them.

I downgraded a while ago, because CR keeps pulling stunts like this and does very little to keep us old timers around. Those of us that have hung around for a while and have the disposable income are not seeing much incentive to stay. We can go elsewhere for the same price and while we may not be eligible for all the contests and give away loot, we have something to look forward to. There is a reason I'm a member of multiple sites.

I would not be surprised if CR has been seeing a drop in revenue and/or market share which has led them to pull stuff like the latest Japan trip contest in order to maintain a steady line. Unfortunately, it is a quick fix and not going to solve the problem.

To the membership of Crunchyroll; why do you stick around? For the premium and premium+ members, why do you keep paying? I stick around and pay because they get some of my favorite shows a week earlier than some other sites, and the price is good for that luxury. If the other sites started to get the show at the same time, I would be gone. I pay because I feel it is a fair deal for getting rid of the commercials. However, I would stop paying if the price went up or I could get the shows commercial-free from other sites without having to pay and having to wait a week or two.

I hear talk about the conventions having special promotional items for members, but I have not once heard someone brag about what was included in the bags. It doesn't help that I have to travel for any and all conventions I do choose to go to, which means taking time off from work too. What drew me to Crunchyroll has been disappearing, but there is still that glimmer of goodness that keeps me around. How about you?
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Posted 12/27/15 , edited 12/29/15
It's cheaper than Netflix and doesn't piss me off like Hulu does.

Also, manga titles that the scanlators don't touch like Gugure Kokkuri-san and Arslan are here.
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Posted 12/27/15

Nogara-san wrote:

It's cheaper than Netflix and doesn't piss me off like Hulu does.

Also, manga titles that the scanlators don't touch like Gugure Kokkuri-san and Arslan are here.

Thank you, and what would have to happen for you to stop paying the premium price? Would you keep paying if the price went up? For the manga, I've seen several fall by the wayside that are continuing elsewhere. If they stopped updating those 2, would you keep paying?

I'm not saying you should leave, because I think CR does some stuff right. However, I do think they are not showing appreciation for those of us that have been around the block a few times, and it may be affecting their bottom line and/or market share. As such, just trying to get an idea of why folks stick around and how tenuous is that desire to stay.
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Posted 12/27/15

Bullbound wrote:


Nogara-san wrote:

It's cheaper than Netflix and doesn't piss me off like Hulu does.

Also, manga titles that the scanlators don't touch like Gugure Kokkuri-san and Arslan are here.

Thank you, and what would have to happen for you to stop paying the premium price? Would you keep paying if the price went up? For the manga, I've seen several fall by the wayside that are continuing elsewhere. If they stopped updating those 2, would you keep paying?


Unless it went up big time...like I pay 6.99 now and if it went up to say, 9.99 or up, then I'd probably would leave. I mean, I can find certain sites where I don't pay and watch what I like there, but I'd like to do the right thing by supporting the creators. 9.99 wouldn't really be worth it to me. As for the manga...I'd just go and try them on other scan sites, but again...I'd like to do the right thing and support the creators, which I know CR does.



I'm not saying you should leave, because I think CR does some stuff right. However, I do think they are not showing appreciation for those of us that have been around the block a few times, and it may be affecting their bottom line and/or market share. As such, just trying to get an idea of why folks stick around and how tenuous is that desire to stay.


It sounds like you buy things from the shop here...which I don't.

As for appreciation...I've been a member for a long time but I really didn't become active until recently. It would be nice for CR to do something for longtime members (or something for those points. Really, what is the point of points?) but considering that I was a member of another anime site for 12+ years and was the top poster there and never got anything for it....I guess I'm not just too bothered.

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The points when implemented were a way to control the forums and prevent robot posting, but that isn't the case any more. I used to buy stuff from the shop and watch the specials for stuff that I like, because I too want to support the creators and they make most of their money on secondary products. Thank you for answering the questions and hopefully others will too.
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Every time there is a contest or promotion for new members only...


What contests?
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Bullbound wrote:

The points when implemented were a way to control the forums and prevent robot posting, but that isn't the case any more. I used to buy stuff from the shop and watch the specials for stuff that I like, because I too want to support the creators and they make most of their money on secondary products. Thank you for answering the questions and hopefully others will too.


Wouldn't it be more on CR's end to prevent robots from spamming? Or I guess a mod to ban it?

Oh and you're welcome.
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Posted 12/27/15 , edited 12/27/15

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Bullbound wrote:

Every time there is a contest or promotion for new members only...


What contests?

Trip to Japan is the latest contest. They had a couple more back when they announced the changes to Premium and Premium+ which you can see referenced in the thread. The most obvious recruitment efforts lately has been the grab bags and other loot that could be bought with a new membership, but couldn't be bought if you are already a paying subscriber.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-932313/holiday-giveaway-win-a-trip-to-japan-for-2
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Posted 12/27/15

Nogara-san wrote:


Bullbound wrote:

The points when implemented were a way to control the forums and prevent robot posting, but that isn't the case any more. I used to buy stuff from the shop and watch the specials for stuff that I like, because I too want to support the creators and they make most of their money on secondary products. Thank you for answering the questions and hopefully others will too.


Wouldn't it be more on CR's end to prevent robots from spamming? Or I guess a mod to ban it?

Oh and you're welcome.


If you do a forum search of the Help section on points, it takes some digging, you will find that the points came out when they didn't have a big and/or experienced forum staff and had to control the number of new threads. They used to do a lot of manual work too, such as changing thread titles from anticipation to discussion for shows. If one didn't have enough points, they couldn't start a new thread. Mods could delete replies and ban folks as needed, but the opportunities for robot posting were limited. That isn't the case any more and CR has gotten better at preventing the behavior from what I've seen. The points don't serve a purpose at this time.
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Posted 12/27/15 , edited 12/27/15

Nogara-san wrote:


Bullbound wrote:

The points when implemented were a way to control the forums and prevent robot posting, but that isn't the case any more. I used to buy stuff from the shop and watch the specials for stuff that I like, because I too want to support the creators and they make most of their money on secondary products. Thank you for answering the questions and hopefully others will too.


Wouldn't it be more on CR's end to prevent robots from spamming? Or I guess a mod to ban it?

Oh and you're welcome.


I think because it required a set amount of points, I believe 500.. new individuals(i.e. spam bots) couldn't create spam posts. The 500 points is a pain to get without the monthly 1k made for premium membership. So I think that was the reason then. I've been admin on sites, like game forums where spam became a real issue, so I applaud CR for such a good idea... though after the low threshold to create posts, points hold no point what so ever.

Honestly I would like to see a system where, while your visible points stayed the same(to show how long you've been here, etc) you could spend your points on tickets for raffle contests, like to Japan for example.
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Yeah, the points are used any more but the display hasn't been removed. Just did some searching.
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Bullbound wrote:


bobland wrote:


Bullbound wrote:

Every time there is a contest or promotion for new members only...


What contests?

Trip to Japan is the latest contest. They had a couple more back when they announced the changes to Premium and Premium+ which you can see referenced in the thread. The most obvious recruitment efforts lately has been the grab bags and other loot that could be bought with a new membership, but couldn't be bought if you are already a paying subscriber.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-932313/holiday-giveaway-win-a-trip-to-japan-for-2


Never really paid attention for those, I'm not here for that.

Reminds me, I've not activated my free trial yet.
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I don't know why someone would be a member for the contests. I'm a member because, they have have several series that interest me each season, I can watch legally here, and some of the money goes into the industry to continue to fund more anime. I've never used the shop, entered a contest, or gone to an event, and likely will not do so. I don't care about those things. For me to stop being a member, they would either need to go out of business, I would have to stop being able to afford it, they would have to stop getting anime that interest me, they would have to start playing commercials in member content, or they would have to start charging an unreasonable amount (the current charges are rather low). For comparison on the charges, I am currently paying less than 6.99 (due to annual membership) and watch anime regularly, but I am paying about $60 for cable TV that I never watch (jerks lied about not putting me in a contract, kept raising rates within the contract, and when I said I wanted to drop the TV, they quoted a back out charge that would be about the same amount if I didn't back out).
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I don't know why someone would be a member for the contests. I'm a member because, they have have several series that interest me each season, I can watch legally here, and some of the money goes into the industry to continue to fund more anime. I've never used the shop, entered a contest, or gone to an event, and likely will not do so. I don't care about those things. For me to stop being a member, they would either need to go out of business, I would have to stop being able to afford it, they would have to stop getting anime that interest me, they would have to start playing commercials in member content, or they would have to start charging an unreasonable amount (the current charges are rather low). For comparison on the charges, I am currently paying less than 6.99 (due to annual membership) and watch anime regularly, but I am paying about $60 for cable TV that I never watch (jerks lied about not putting me in a contract, kept raising rates within the contract, and when I said I wanted to drop the TV, they quoted a back out charge that would be about the same amount if I didn't back out).


Thank you for that answer. When you pay less for a service that you use more, that is a nice comparison of value.
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What actually lead me to Crunchyroll from the very beginning in 2007 was the Fansubs & AMV's. Also the K-drama in overload that made me love the place.

I do admit I used to have a premium membership but I never paid for it. They had this Crunchy bucks ages ago ( not certain if they still have it ), and I amassed 35+ dollar at some point with it.

With the 2-3 months of premium membership 2 years ago, I concluded that I can't justify supporting crunchyroll due the fact it's too US & Canada based and sadly as almost every gaming company in the world, EU unfriendly.

Don't get me wrong though, I do understand that region locking isn't Crunchyroll's fault but since there's almost nothing for me to support as a Crunchyroll member in Europe and almost every give away, event & convention Crunchyroll is at is also in the US, I don't bother with the Event Section either.

Nowadays it's just the occasional browsing through the forums to remind me why I strayed away from this website in the first place.

I miss the old crunchyroll and especially the members of the old era </3
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