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Towns criticized for using explicit anime to boost economy
Posted 12/29/15

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The city of Shima, the host of the 2016 Group of Seven summit in central Japan, withdrew “Megu Aoshima,” a 17-year-old girl diver character, as its official character in November after angry women who actually work as divers launched a campaign. The character, used on posters advertising Shima, was clothed in a tight-fitting diving dress that showed her thighs and emphasized her breasts.

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Source: http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/towns-criticized-for-using-explicit-anime-to-boost-economy




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Japan’s G7 host city drops manga mascot deemed sexist

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The Japanese city hosting a G7 summit has dropped its official mascot after complaints that the character is sexist and inapproriate.
The city of Shima, where leaders such as Barack Obama and Angela Merkel will meet in May, said it was withdrawing official recognition from 17 year-old mascot Aoshima Meg.
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Shima’s real ama divers, who are mainly women in their 60s, have complained that the cartoon character’s suggestive attire and proportions trivialise their profession.
The case highlights concerns about the overtly sexual cartoons widespread in Japan, as well as drawing attention to an ageing workforce in traditional occupations such as pearl diving. The UN recently called on Japan to ban manga cartoons that show the sexual abuse of children.
It also points to sensitivity around the gathering of the Group of Seven industrial powers, an important diplomatic showpiece for Shinzo Abe, the prime minister, who has made so-called womenomics a big part of his economic agenda.
Fumiko Yamamoto, 66, a pearl diver, told broadcaster NHK: “We want PR to find successors for the ama of Shima, but this character is just too far from what we actually look like. I’m so happy they’ve removed the designation.”
Hundreds of ama divers in Shima signed a petition calling for the withdrawal of the character introduced in October last year. Ama, who do not use breathing apparatus, have dived for pearls in Japan for centuries.
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Hidekazu Oguchi, mayor of Shima, said 70 per cent of ama supported Meg but in deference to the other 30 per cent the city was withdrawing its official backing.
Meg’s creators said they had received expressions of support from across Japan, so they would not change the design, and she would remain as an unofficial mascot for the city.
Manga publishing is a $2bn industry in Japan. Many cities and companies adopt a character to promote themselves, and Meg is supposed to attract tourists to the scenic Ise-Shima region.
The character’s web page was not functioning on Thursday evening but an archive version says Meg was inspired by her ama grandmother and wants to be Japan’s number one pearl diver. “However, she wants to be a cute and fashionable ama,” says the site.
The number of ama divers in the Ise-Shima area has declined from 6,109 in 1949 to 761 last year. Their average age was 65, with 51 divers in their eighties, and only five in their 20s.
Young people cited a desire for a stable income and the dangers of diving as the main reasons for not wanting to become ama — mirroring the trend in many of Japan’s cherished traditional industries.
Posted 12/29/15

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lorreen wrote:

I don't know anything about Japanese law but it certainly appears that it was legal for them to organize, prepare a petition, and let their opinion be known, just as that sort of action would be legal in the US (where I'm from.) There is nothing here that suggests an intention to litigate-- to legally force the compliance with their wishes. Instead the intent appears to have been to pressure the decision makers agree to not use the image because it was both the right thing to do out of respect, and because to do otherwise in the face of the criticism could be bad PR.



Like I already say. The people complaining are no the majority of the workers.

70% of the ama divers supported Megu as a mascot according to an article in the Financial Times.

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/785c1c2c-838c-11e5-8095-ed1a37d1e096.html#axzz3vlDL47M1

This was just the few getting their way by complaining what the many wanted.

In any case the decision mean nothing really.
So ether way the best the few that bitch about it was made her unofficial. Witch means really nothing.

Meg’s creators said they had received expressions of support from across Japan, so they would not change the design, and she would remain as an unofficial mascot for the city.


I don't think there is anything wrong with the minority expressing their opinion and being heard and influencing the outcome. There's certainly nothing not-legal about it.



No the problem. Acting like they have the most popular opinion is. They want to bitch about it? That is fine and all. But they are no the majority. Ether way this decision means really nothing.
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I don't think that it's over sexualized, I think it's the fact that they are potraying something or someone with something that has been known to over sexualize women. Let's face it, anime over sexualizes women, and this is the right move. It's not the point if it isn't over the top, or sexy, or racy. It is the fact that the only reason they will support such a character is because of what the outcome will be.

With that line of reasoning you could make the same argument about TV and movie characters. For example if some group was mad about a movie character being a mascot for some product: "well TV and movies are oversexualized, better yank Elsa from the Cheerios box."


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I feel like anime gets a lot of flaming over dumb things.

I feel the same way. The financial times article makes it look like there's some kind of anime crisis:

The case highlights concerns about the overtly sexual cartoons widespread in Japan, as well as drawing attention to an ageing workforce in traditional occupations such as pearl diving. The UN recently called on Japan to ban manga cartoons that show the sexual abuse of children.
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Posted 12/29/15
So, just like feminism in the West, bitter chicks in Japan are also able to get rid of what the majority wants.
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Posted 12/29/15 , edited 12/31/15
Well, imagine a quiet town in the American midwest wakes up one day to find that their town council has started advertising itself very publicly with imagery from The Village People. Not all the police, construction workers, soldiers, motorcycle enthusiasts and Native Americans are going to be pleased with the new town "mascots."
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Posted 12/30/15 , edited 12/30/15

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Humms wrote:

I don't think that it's over sexualized, I think it's the fact that they are potraying something or someone with something that has been known to over sexualize women. Let's face it, anime over sexualizes women, and this is the right move. It's not the point if it isn't over the top, or sexy, or racy. It is the fact that the only reason they will support such a character is because of what the outcome will be.

With that line of reasoning you could make the same argument about TV and movie characters. For example if some group was mad about a movie character being a mascot for some product: "well TV and movies are oversexualized, better yank Elsa from the Cheerios box."


Yeah, but that would be Disney we're talking about. This is completely different. You can't compare TV and movies to Anime, Anime is completely different. You can't just say that TV and movies are the same as anime, and so their reasoning is the same. You have to understand what Anime offers. Comparing a character like Elsa to Anime? Lol that makes no sense. You have to realize what Anime actually offers other than the face value of a character. Which is why it will work in Japan, but try that in western countries.

Should probably read the full post sometimes.

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Posted 12/30/15 , edited 12/30/15
thank you much more informative (about the divers?), and that it was more about it didn't show how they do it and maybe the sexual complains was more from others? dunno.
but still don't know what they used the picture for do you know?
for the town but used where?

Posted 12/30/15

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thank you much more informative (about the divers?), and that it was more about it didn't show how they do it and maybe the sexual complains was more from others? dunno.
but still don't know what they used the picture for do you know?
for the town but used where?



I assume the picture provide by me or OP.
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Posted 12/30/15 , edited 12/30/15

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It that it, I was expecting something way worse.

That is not explicit, this is explicit:



That is classical art, not pornography.


"Pornography" was termed after Victorians unearthed Pompeii and were aghast at the sexual imagery that were, in fact, also classical artwork. Pompeii culture was deemed explicit enough for artifacts to have been deemed so scandalous, that they were hidden away from women and children for decades. This painting of Aphrodite can count as pornography, too.
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People are offended by that? Oh please, I've seen a hell of a lot worse. Try looking at any magazine these days and there will be a real woman in much more revealing clothing with fake breasts
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Posted 12/30/15 , edited 12/30/15
Mascot being a misrepresentation of the small town? Sure, the town is mostly populated by 60 y.o women I can see what they mean.

Inappropriate? Not that I can see, maybe it's the chest size? That's quite the stretch, only other possible features would be the, gasp... knees and ankles...!



How exactly are they going to bring in the youth there without a minimum effort to cater towards the younger generation? Kawaii sells in Japan, from anime/manga enthusiasts to the everyday young person. Honestly, if the mascot changed from the 17 y.o girl to a 60 y.o girl, do they expect younger people to find it very appealing? My answer is no, it would probably bring in the older generation, but that isn't their aim now is it?
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If that's "highly sexualized", then half of the illustrations depicted in anime magazines should be censored. Or banned. Hell, I've seen worse in promotional photos.
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Posted 12/30/15
It's not that bad. Talk about overreacting.
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The West's PC ways are spreading to the East.
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Posted 12/30/15 , edited 12/30/15
I think it was images like this that got them riled up.



This is what the actual divers today look like.



They're mostly women in their later years, and this mascot doesn't represent them, what with the skin-tight outfit and exposed legs. They shouldn't be exploited to bring in tourists that can't control their sex drive.
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