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So bit of a topic me and many other Autistic people on R/Aspergers talked about one time and we were in favour mostly of the opinion i am going to put here but.



Father 1: I want my kid to be Neurotypical
People: That's good

Father 2: I want by kid to by Autistic (not low functioning Autism)
People: OMG YOU ARE A TERRIBLE PERSON.


This to me just goes to show how little most of the public understands about Autism and the whole spectrum as a whole.
To be honest it's rather quite offensive to hate someone for wanting there child to be Autistic like them but when a NT person does it and wants there child to be NT it's fine.

Very offensive to be honest and goes to show the lack of understanding of Neurodiversity and general understanding of those on the spectrum in the public view.



First people may say but Autism is a Disorder and this is one of the VERY controversial topics in the Autistic community as if society were formed around Autistic people instead of "Normal" people it would function very differently and our methods of communication would be very non-verbal and use no body language.

In such a society being "Normal" would be considered being disabled as it is not the norm and it makes it harder to function in society.

For the most part the whole Disorder part of Autism comes down to the fact that having it makes it harder to function in society.

It does not mean there is something wrong with the person who has Autism it just means there brain is wired/developed slightly different



I just wanted to put this out there and give some people some basic education on what Autism is and the fact that it's not something that needs to be cured (low functioning Autism aside as that is what fits as Disabled).



I am just very annoyed at how PC people get towards Autism and Childbirth.

There are those out there that want to force the genetic mutation that causes Autism to be killed and not allow those of us with it to breed.

I just wanted to let you guys know as you probably never heard of this but there is a movement going on to strip those with Autism of there rights and not to accept us but reject us and our genetic mutation.

The bare notion of "Curing" us is offensive as it implies we are sick what these people want to do is "fix" us just like people did for those who were Gay or Trans.

I just wanted to put this out on CR as i know there are a few others like me out there and i wanted to provide a tiny bit of education on the subject but it turned out into a mini-rant of sorts i guess.

Anyway Happy New years guys and enjoy.



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Its fine to be autistic but stupid people dont relize this.
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Im not reading all of that sorry but saying autism isnt a disorder..then explain ASD?

Autism Spectrum Disorder.

Autism comes in all different types, forms and levels.

In fact my son has ASD.
I can't say i know a lot but I do know something about it, at least in his form and level.

My son will be 3 years old in one month from the 1st. And I'm missing out on something amazing. Communication with my child. He doesn't know how to talk. Has a hard time pronouncing sounds. Does know some words, but he bounces from using them frequently to one day its like he never knew it in the first place. It takes him lots of time to figure out what one word means even months after learning it
For example...mama. He cries if he needs something. My name is Ahhh to him or he just grabs my hand and points. I always talk to him, tell him whats what and so on. Hes a very smart kid tho, can work a smart phone as well as i can >.> he knows how to count to 10. Knows the colors, learning thw abcs..just fails to get what he wants to say out.

Autism, its more like a learning disability. Thats all!
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Im not reading all of that sorry but saying autism isnt a disorder..then explain ASD?

Autism Spectrum Disorder.

Autism comes in all different types, forms and levels.

In fact my son has ASD.
I can't say i know a lot but I do know something about it, at least in his form and level.

My son will be 3 years old in one month from the 1st. And I'm missing out on something amazing. Communication with my child. He doesn't know how to talk. Has a hard time pronouncing sounds. Does know some words, but he bounces from using them frequently to one day its like he never knew it in the first place. It takes him lots of time to figure out what one word means even months after learning it
For example...mama. He cries if he needs something. My name is Ahhh to him or he just grabs my hand and points. I always talk to him, tell him whats what and so on. Hes a very smart kid tho, can work a smart phone as well as i can >.> he knows how to count to 10. Knows the colors, learning thw abcs..just fails to get what he wants to say out.

Autism, its more like a learning disability. Thats all!



It's more then just a learning disability though our brains are wired differently meaning we learn differently.

People with Autism have benefits from being Autistic that normal people don't have alot of the time.


It's a difference in wiring meaning in some areas we are "disabled" but it means we excel in others and function differently.

I used to have speech issues as a child because we are inherently cursed with awful social skills that most people just know from birth and growing up.

Though we can learn i went to a speech therapist for many years as a child and it was well worth it as i can now socialize to my full capacity.

Autism comes in all different types and forms and levels is correct.

Thats why Neurodiversity sees Autism as a different mode so to speak which is not incorrect scientifically speaking as our brains work differently.

There is this Stigma that those with Autism are those who are low functioning and that ends up really hurting those with it because when you tell someone they don't take you seriously and judge / pity you.

As far as HFA and Aspergers go alot of us just see it as a different mode.

like if it were a game normal people would be Warriors and those with ASD would be Mages (horrible explanation but i tried )1

It is a disorder as it impacts social skills which matter alot since our society is social which means it counts as a disability.

But unlike most disabilities Autism comes with a few ups and down rather then just being inherently all bad no good.
That is why i suspect alot of us aside from me see it as a different mode so to speak.
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It's more then just a learning disability though our brains are wired differently meaning we learn differently.

People with Autism have benefits from being Autistic that normal people don't have alot of the time.

It's a difference in wiring meaning in some areas we are "disabled" but it means we excel in others and function differently.

I used to have speech issues as a child because we are inherently cursed with awful social skills that most people just know from birth and growing up.

Though we can learn i went to a speech therapist for many years as a child and it was well worth it as i can now socialize to my full capacity.

Autism comes in all different types and forms and levels is correct.

Thats why Neurodiversity sees Autism as a different mode so to speak which is not incorrect scientifically speaking as our brains work differently.

There is this Stigma that those with Autism are those who are low functioning and that ends up really hurting those with it because when you tell someone they don't take you seriously and judge / pity you.

As far as HFA and Aspergers go alot of us just see it as a different mode.

like if it were a game normal people would be Warriors and those with ASD would be Mages (horrible explanation but i tried )1

It is a disorder as it impacts social skills which matter alot since our society is social which means it counts as a disability.

But unlike most disabilities Autism comes with a few ups and down rather then just being inherently all bad no good.
That is why i suspect alot of us aside from me see it as a different mode so to speak.


Personally disabled and disability are just forms of words that means we are different than most others.

I have a learning disability, but definitely not disabled! People who are autistic in my eyes are very special unique people. And they are often misjudged. People down grade them without knowing a thing about this word "autism". & obviously when i come across someone like that i do get defensive. But im sure thats expected in my case.

Im pretty sure my son gets his 'disabilities' from genes.. As his dad and myself have learning disabilities. Mine more in communication with vocabulary, i know nothing about his dads.. & also there a gene that runs in my sons dad of the family with ASD.

ASD is in fact able to work with as you said therapy and just learning can help them meet the levels as an 'adverage being'
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Normal is a very subjective term but society tends to prefer those who can excel in multiple fields. Consider it a throwback to when genetic stability and whatnot were hardwired into our brains.
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Tinamarie101 wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:

It's more then just a learning disability though our brains are wired differently meaning we learn differently.

People with Autism have benefits from being Autistic that normal people don't have alot of the time.

It's a difference in wiring meaning in some areas we are "disabled" but it means we excel in others and function differently.

I used to have speech issues as a child because we are inherently cursed with awful social skills that most people just know from birth and growing up.

Though we can learn i went to a speech therapist for many years as a child and it was well worth it as i can now socialize to my full capacity.

Autism comes in all different types and forms and levels is correct.

Thats why Neurodiversity sees Autism as a different mode so to speak which is not incorrect scientifically speaking as our brains work differently.

There is this Stigma that those with Autism are those who are low functioning and that ends up really hurting those with it because when you tell someone they don't take you seriously and judge / pity you.

As far as HFA and Aspergers go alot of us just see it as a different mode.

like if it were a game normal people would be Warriors and those with ASD would be Mages (horrible explanation but i tried )1

It is a disorder as it impacts social skills which matter alot since our society is social which means it counts as a disability.

But unlike most disabilities Autism comes with a few ups and down rather then just being inherently all bad no good.
That is why i suspect alot of us aside from me see it as a different mode so to speak.


Personally disabled and disability are just forms of words that means we are different than most others.

I have a learning disability, but definitely not disabled! People who are autistic in my eyes are very special unique people. And they are often misjudged. People down grade them without knowing a thing about this word "autism". & obviously when i come across someone like that i do get defensive. But im sure thats expected in my case.

Im pretty sure my son gets his 'disabilities' from genes.. As his dad and myself have learning disabilities. Mine more in communication with vocabulary, i know nothing about his dads.. & also there a gene that runs in my sons dad of the family with ASD.

ASD is in fact able to work with as you said therapy and just learning can help them meet the levels as an 'adverage being'



Pretty much actually it's funny but alot of people with Autism excel thanks to traits they get from being Autistic which is good if you can turn those traits into a way to make money and live a good life.
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I know somebody who has Aspergers (does that count as being autistic?). I didn't even know it until somebody told me. I have seen other autistic people at my school, and it was hardly noticeable. I guess I feel that people who are different (not meant in a bad way) should be treated as they are--human. I don't like to discriminate against people that are different in any way.
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Sounds like those people are getting offended when they are not the target/on other's behalf...
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so the term for "normal" is "neurotypical" now?
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so the term for "normal" is "neurotypical" now?


Neurotypical means someone with non-atypical neurology

Meaning there brains are wired normally
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so the term for "normal" is "neurotypical" now?


I think he's just talking about people in the autism spectrum versus "normal" people (i.e. someone who doesn't have a social / learning disorder). Yes, ok, maybe the word disorder will offend, but I'm simply using the common terminology.

I understand the offense towards discrimination you might receive if you're part of the autism spectrum, but I know many people with mild forms like aspergers and it's not noticeable. That can manifest itself in many ways, and I've even seen the case that people just find trouble identifying with others, so they seek out a test without the opinion of friends or family.

I don't think anyone says "I really want my child to be autistic." because they know what kind of trouble that child might encounter during development. Before anyone takes even more offense, yes, I know you lead "normal" lives, and no, I don't dislike people with autism.
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Ryulightorb wrote:


Sogno- wrote:

so the term for "normal" is "neurotypical" now?


Neurotypical means someone with non-atypical neurology

Meaning there brains are wired normally


The double negation, tho.
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Nalaniel wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


Sogno- wrote:

so the term for "normal" is "neurotypical" now?


Neurotypical means someone with non-atypical neurology

Meaning there brains are wired normally


The double negation, tho.


xD i'm not the best at explaining things
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Sogno- wrote:

so the term for "normal" is "neurotypical" now?


I think he's just talking about people in the autism spectrum versus "normal" people (i.e. someone who doesn't have a social / learning disorder). Yes, ok, maybe the word disorder will offend, but I'm simply using the common terminology.

I understand the offense towards discrimination you might receive if you're part of the autism spectrum, but I know many people with mild forms like aspergers and it's not noticeable. That can manifest itself in many ways, and I've even seen the case that people just find trouble identifying with others, so they seek out a test without the opinion of friends or family.

I don't think anyone says "I really want my child to be autistic." because they know what kind of trouble that child might encounter during development. Before anyone takes even more offense, yes, I know you lead "normal" lives, and no, I don't dislike people with autism.


Well we usually don't say it but there others like me on the spectrum who want kids with Autism like us.

I see it no different then normal people wanting normal kids.

Autistic people do have problems most normal people don't but a normal person can have just as many problems.
Honestly i have met others who felt the same some people adopt Autistic children instead of Normal children because they want to relate to there child.

I think it's just human nature to want to relate to your own flesh and blood i mean as i grew up not being able to relate to anyone in my family i would never wish that on my own child and hope for them we can relate which works hand in hand with my desire to have a child with Autism like me so...yeah
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