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Alot of Police (especially in america) are dicks


I've met more police who aren't dicks.
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I'll be the first to defend police, as a whole. There ARE dick cops, though.

However, I know almost every officer in my county, both city and county and a few DPS that are around. (though I live in a small county, with few officers) MOST cops ARE good cops. And if you know them, they'll tell you straight "Yeah, that cop's a dick (idiot, jackass, etc), and he'll screw you if he pulls you over." The problem is that there is NO way to fire someone who has broken no rules or laws, yet.


All that being said... cases like this need to have the book thrown at them, to set a standard.

I just hate that all cops are being painted as bad guys for the bad ones. Only the bad ones get the publicity.
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You know putting asside how many cops are or are not dicks can you blame all the ones that are?

Think about it these people put their lives on the line in some cases and what do they get for it? Only decent pay and everyone giving them constant grief, having to walk on egg shells with everything they do, and other crap. Stuff like this varies based on the area of course but seriously I can see why some cops would just go "aw screw it" and start going over board. It's like when you're taking care of that bratty kid who will not behave and finally you just give him an ear full and maybe even paddle his ass.

Mind you I'm not saying police violence is okay or right or that officers who go beyond what they have the right to do should not be punished. What I am saying is instead of giving police in general grief and creating this media frenzy where all cops are now evil maybe we should cut these poor guys a break, take a step back, and just calmly fire and/or arrest guys who genuinely go too far. Again some cops really put up with a LOT of crap so the least we can do is not give them even more crap to deal with.

I mean how long before another shitty Mc Donalds employee tells a cop they won't serve them and he/she just snaps and shoots them? Also just what do these idiots who do that kind of crap want? Do they want all cops to quit? Gee lets see who stops that robber who broke into their house and is murdering their family after that. Or lets see who tracks down that guy who stop their car.


This is what I hate most every time I see one of these reports. Whether or not it's true and the cops is question went too far. People have completely forgotten how to show even the bare minimun gratitude to the police organization as a whole and uses each incident as an excuse to treat them like crap.
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Holy shit, fucking cops man. I think cops who commit crimes need to have the book thrown at them. Commit an unjustified killing or assault and get automatic life in prison. What a complete and utter betrayal of the public's trust.
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Irishsushi wrote: Makes me ashamed I'm going into law enforcement. It sickens me there are cops that abuse the position they have.
they got too much "freedom" and all these different laws per state is really annoying and no wonder some don't know about some.



The training is piss poor and the standards are abysmal. Every tie I see a fat cop I throw up, its completely irresponsible and shouldn't be allowed. That isn't to say the police are all to blame, but there definitely needs to be a change.
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Crazy Florida. I'm glad I don't live ther... oh wait.
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Metazoxan wrote: You know putting asside how many cops are or are not dicks can you blame all the ones that are?
Think about it these people put their lives on the line in some cases and what do they get for it? Only decent pay and everyone giving them constant grief

This is what I hate most every time I see one of these reports. Whether or not it's true and the cops is question went too far. People have completely forgotten how to show even the bare minimun gratitude to the police organization as a whole and uses each incident as an excuse to treat them like crap.
yes one should not blame every cop but you could do on some police stations that is doing a TERRIABLE JOB, in some cases killing innocents

If we are going to respect the cops then they should also respect our lives! (mostly to civ's and sometimes unarmed moments)
since they making others fear of getting shot (a really good reason to think since they will/could) and any suspect even if just doing notting much so long they are cuffed and resisting the cops do value too much shooting or grouping on them even if they are restricted or down... when I would say FUCK THE POLICE!

TYT: Cops Beat And Taser Students For Noise Complaint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U1PGhWB27k
and many more showing their lack of respect of lives of others and treating humans/survivors etc as dolls they can do anything with for example shoot...





Irishsushi wrote:the training is piss poor and the standards are abysmal. Every tie I see a fat cop I throw up, its completely irresponsible and shouldn't be allowed. That isn't to say the police are all to blame, but there definitely needs to be a change.
isn't more on that they hire more that don't really know the law (just to have someone that can be called cops and do the work) and others don't GET the training they need or too expensive for some.


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While everyone is talking about the cops and how they should be punished, am I the only one who's fearing what they'll do to the dogs? It isn't the dogs' fault that their trainer sent them to hurt someone, they [the dogs] don't have much of a choice.


Also, This is a little off-topic, but the comment section of the TYT video gave me brain cancer... Well, I probably already had it in the first place.

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ILuvCats11 wrote:

Alot of Police (especially in america) are dicks


I have yet to come across an officer who is a dick or are you simply basing your opinion on news stories that describe a small percentage of police officers?
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cenie wrote: I have yet to come across an officer who is a dick or are you simply basing your opinion on news stories that describe a small percentage of police officers?
small? big enough that something should be done about it, either they have to be able to be in some way suppressed by the law, but not too much so they can't do anything in a hard situation.

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cenie wrote: I have yet to come across an officer who is a dick or are you simply basing your opinion on news stories that describe a small percentage of police officers?
small? big enough that something should be done about it, either they have to be able to be in some way suppressed by the law, but not too much so they can't do anything in a hard situation.\


NO, it is a small percentage.

Surely you aren't silly enough to think that it is a large percentage simply because the media only shows the bad?

Am I saying it is acceptable? Absolutely not. I think they should throw the book at bad cops. I personally feel there should be extra charges for violating the public's trust in your position.

However, it is by an far not even close to a "large" portion of law enforcement.

Also, I'm completely open to prevention ideas, but the reality is that any good prevention would also require higher pay for law enforcement, and no one wants to bring higher pay into a discussion about fixing law enforcement issues. Unfortunately, you get what you pay for.
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HolyDrumstick wrote: Surely you aren't silly enough to think that it is a large percentage simply because the media only shows the bad?

Also, I'm completely open to prevention ideas, but the reality is that any good prevention would also require higher pay for law enforcement, and no one wants to bring higher pay into a discussion about fixing law enforcement issues. Unfortunately, you get what you pay for.
I didn't say anything about percentage?
I wouldn't say pay should really say much about how they work, even though yes sometimes they would want to be more safe because of that and don't want to die from something silly like dealing with a robber that "could" stab you to death etc.
But then agian there is such much negative or "illegal" cops out there that totally do abuse their "rights" like what I posted about black sites being used and how they want to do FASTER "solutions" to their "problems" and also could be tied with the payment.

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Everyone bashes cops until they need one.
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HolyDrumstick wrote: Surely you aren't silly enough to think that it is a large percentage simply because the media only shows the bad?

Also, I'm completely open to prevention ideas, but the reality is that any good prevention would also require higher pay for law enforcement, and no one wants to bring higher pay into a discussion about fixing law enforcement issues. Unfortunately, you get what you pay for.
I didn't say anything about percentage?
I wouldn't say pay should really say much about how they work, even though yes sometimes they would want to be more safe because of that and don't want to die from something silly like dealing with a robber that "could" stab you to death etc.
But then agian there is such much negative or "illegal" cops out there that totally do abuse their "rights" like what I posted about black sites being used and how they want to do FASTER "solutions" to their "problems" and also could be tied with the payment.



Really? Money has nothing to do with it? So, you'd be happy with a surgeon working on you that only gets paid the same as a convenience store manager (or less)?

Money has a LOT to do with the kind of people you get. You can't require more training and screening for a job on the lower end of the income scale. NO ONE will do the job. There is a reason there is a saying that those who can't do teach.... it's because they teach because they can't really do anything else. And it is the same with police. It's an easy career, albeit one with low pay.

As soon as the pay scale raises significantly, you can raise the quality of police that you actually accept and the amount of training required.


You know what, I'm going to quit here.... if you can't figure all this out for yourself, you aren't really worth trying to explain it to.
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some of that I have allready stated..

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