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Excuse you. I'm not a criminal but the majority of my experiences with cops have been negative. You probably couldn't relate, but if you happen to be black and have never been eyeballed, had to sit at a traffic stop while while additional cars were called in or spoken to in a disrespectful manner tell me your secret or lend me some of that Kool-Aid so I can block it out too. Give me a break...


Sure, I've had just about all of those things happen to me. Hell, when I was seventeen I had my vehicle searched after being pulled over for a license plate light being out. I had another cop almost draw his gun on me over an airsoft pistol. Hell, if I had a nickle every damned time that a cop had been a dick to me, I could pay every ticket I've ever gotten.

Check yourself. It ain't because you're black. It's because being a cop is a hard, thankless job, and almost everyone you deal with is pissed at you for doing your job. On top of that, you never know who's going to be a criminal, so you're always alert. If you worked under those conditions, you'd be the exact same way.

ALSO, if you dress like a thug (be you white or black) with sagging pants, etc.... you'd better expect a little more attention. My sister had dreadlocks for years, but finally took them out because she got tired of cops judging her all the time. Appearance says a LOT. And if you don't think it does, you're just a delusional black "victim."

An example of this in action: The other day, I pulled into the gas station. There were two black dudes BSing, and a white dude trying to put gas in a gas can. White dude looked like he was tweaking hard, rough and nasty looking. I purposefully walked nearer the black dudes to avoid that guy(and honestly, to kinda have them to help if the white dude did something crazy). Now, he could have just been having a shitty day... who knows.... but at the end of the day appearance means much more than color.... not that I'm particularly racist, anyway.
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So because cops have a hard job and are the nervous types that succumb to stereotyping people I should adjust myself accordingly? It's great that you have had these negative experiences and still be sympathetic. I can't. Nope, not when they have a gun and a "no witness no crime" attitude. I'm not going to knock you for being an apologist but you have to recognize things like incarceration rates. But no, you know the how it feels... As for this poor kid, he's not an object of racism in policing, just a victim of that hyper-aggressive culture cops fall victim to. And the only way you can stop that culture from growing is publicly shaming it.
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Because incarceration rates don't reflect the actual crime rates at all?

Ah... so you are just a "victim."

Well, I'm done here.... some people refuse to see the truth.

Also, just so you know, that comment about incarceration rates? It wasn't aimed in a racist manner. American black people have cultural issues that can ONLY be solved by black people. People like you, who deny those issues and claim a victim mentality are the very reason these problems are perpetuated.
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Thats sure how it sounds though. Funny I think the same thing about police departments as previously stated. A cultural issue indeed. I also agree there are people that deny there is a problem. "It's your people's culture that sucks, so don't blame the cops." 2016 and people still think like this? Oh well to each their own.
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Everyone bashes cops until they need one.


If I was just robbed i'd rather just go about my day like nothing happened ( and maybe not go to that area again) before i'd call the police. I don't hate the police but i try my best to avoid interacting with someone that walks around with a gun.

As for the video i'm not shocked when i hear anything about a officer shooting someone or being shot.


Hmmmm. looks like you are a good person to rob then. Good to know.

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yeah now I see where I said "wrong" what I meant it still was a big problem not a big precentage.....
second of all... just found it funny how fast to sweep things like this under something else also money don't solve everything! ..

Check yourself. It ain't because you're black. It's because being a cop is a hard, thankless job, and almost everyone you deal with is pissed at you for doing your job. On top of that, you never know who's going to be a criminal, so you're always alert.
... well some of could be because his black, why?
the area?
who is mostly inside this thing and what they have expirenced so they act this way?
used to that those around there that are like that could most likely do something like ___ and so on?
and much more why one could be targeted by police because of skin color etc.
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Xxanthar wrote:

Everyone bashes cops until they need one.


What race are you I wonder? As a black man I think you need a cop as much as you need cancer. They're both bad for your health and its a shame things have stayed static for so long.




Are you for real? As a black man who makes up 13% of the population, the same 13% that commits 70% of all violent crimes in America, Maybe you should blame your culture and lifestyle for hating cops? Maybe stop blaming society for all of your problems and work to improve yourself? Most people who get shot by cops, can avoid that outcome by simply doing what the police say. It's not very mentally challenging to stop and put your hands where the officer can see them when asked. If you can't handle that maybe you should be shot. You argue your case in court of law not to a police officer.


So basically the "your culture sucks" argument again. "Just be obedient while you get disrespected and let your rights be trampled on. You deserve a bullet in your brain if you can't comply." Again, this is 2016. Amazing...
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So basically the "your culture sucks" argument again. "Just be obedient while you get disrespected and let your rights be trampled on. You deserve a bullet in your brain if you can't comply." Again, this is 2016. Amazing...


Yeah, 2016, and people still can't take responsibility. If you keep denying the issues exist, you'll keep pushing the problem.... into 2017, 2025-2050, 2100, and so on.

Cops aren't picking on blacks. That's a BS black ghost story that never addresses the real issue.
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So basically the "your culture sucks" argument again. "Just be obedient while you get disrespected and let your rights be trampled on. You deserve a bullet in your brain if you can't comply." Again, this is 2016. Amazing...


Yeah, 2016, and people still can't take responsibility. If you keep denying the issues exist, you'll keep pushing the problem.... into 2017, 2025-2050, 2100, and so on.

Cops aren't picking on blacks. That's a BS black ghost story that never addresses the real issue.


Let's agree to disagree.
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Let's agree to disagree.


Sure... not my issues to worry about.
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This thread... is now about race.
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MysticGon wrote:


Xxanthar wrote:

Everyone bashes cops until they need one.


What race are you I wonder? As a black man I think you need a cop as much as you need cancer. They're both bad for your health and its a shame things have stayed static for so long.




Are you for real? As a black man who makes up 13% of the population, the same 13% that commits 70% of all violent crimes in America, Maybe you should blame your culture and lifestyle for hating cops? Maybe stop blaming society for all of your problems and work to improve yourself? Most people who get shot by cops, can avoid that outcome by simply doing what the police say. It's not very mentally challenging to stop and put your hands where the officer can see them when asked. If you can't handle that maybe you should be shot. You argue your case in court of law not to a police officer.


people like you make me sick... but atleast I know you're a racist now
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thekevin4 wrote: This thread... is now about race.
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Em0SceneStabr wrote: people like you make me sick... but atleast I know you're a racist now
well sure when it comes to "this is how they are" etc... when we know why, since many of them living in poor conditions and its really a hard time to get out of such areas with crime etc (mentally and in some cases phyical too)

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Em0SceneStabr wrote: people like you make me sick... but atleast I know you're a racist now
well sure when it comes to "this is how they are" etc... when we know why, since many of them living in poor conditions and its really a hard time to get out of such areas with crime etc (mentally and in some cases phyical too)



crime rates don't have anything to do with race. Crime rate DOES have something to do with income. Typically you don't see high crime rates in rich neighborhood The thing is that this goes for the whole world. I'm going to assume that there aren't very many african american's in Mexico or in Iraq but i'd bet they have higher crime rates, and murders just fewer police "incidences" that's primarily an America thing
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Em0SceneStabr wrote: crime rates don't have anything to do with race. Crime rate DOES have something to do with income. Typically you don't see high crime rates in rich neighborhood The thing is that this goes for the whole world. I'm going to assume that there aren't very many african american's in Mexico or in Iraq but i'd bet they have higher crime rates, and murders just fewer police "incidences" that's primarily an America thing
Did I say it was a race thing? and not that much of that race was in such "state"? (poor, used to guns, breaking laws either by fellows showing or teaching them when young)

But still being poor does not allways mean there should be bad people though.. and by that I want to say more bad things do happend more in such areas that wasn't needed either because of volience with weapons (guns/knifes and then gangs etc)
as why we got gangsters?

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