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Posted 1/1/16 , edited 1/1/16
As it stands, mods can pretty much close threads over whatever they feel, and have no responsibility to justify their actions.

They should at least be required to explain to the topic poster why the thread was closed. Hell, a response to a message asking would be nice.


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This is my first time on an anime site/forum since I joined not that long ago. Have to admit that it's pretty tame compared to other sites I've been on. Almost surprised it has a mod that closes threads that aren't too overbearing. Could just be my experience with all the crazy, lawlessness to get around what a clean site is though.
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yaboogie wrote:

This is my first time on an anime site/forum since I joined not that long ago. Have to admit that it's pretty tame compared to other sites I've been on. Almost surprised it has a mod that closes threads that aren't too overbearing. Could just be my experience with all the crazy, lawlessness to get around what a clean site is though.


That's much more to do with the lax and chill community than mods. It take nothing but a single person to make your whole thread get closed. All they have to do is act like enough of an ass, have the thread reported, and closed.

Probably 8/10 times the entire thread is closed, rather than removing offending posts.

This basically means that if someone wants to be a dick, they can have your threads closed, if they want. At most, they'll get a couple slaps on the wrist. Short ban if they are really trouble. Some people are vindictive enough.

What really pisses me off is asking a mod for justification and being ignored. There's no checks for the mods, they just do what they want, and answer to people who never view the forums to begin with.
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Glancing quickly at the recent closed threads, it appears that only something like 1 out of every 20 was closed without a message from mods explaining why (factoring out year end cleanup and spambot threads). So 19 out of 20 with an explanation is decent, and for all I know, some of that 1/20 didn't have messages because they were simple duplicates or some such.

Whether or not they should close threads or delete posts, it's too look up statistics on that. I've known them to do both, and I think both can be valid approaches depending on the situation. I obviously can't comment on what action was taken in specific cases.

From the perspective of someone who moderates (in forums on a different site), I personally don't have any issues with the mods in general (again, I'm not speaking of specific cases).
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hatguy12 wrote:

Glancing quickly at the recent closed threads, it appears that only something like 1 out of every 20 was closed without a message from mods explaining why (factoring out year end cleanup and spambot threads). So 19 out of 20 with an explanation is decent, and for all I know, some of that 1/20 didn't have messages because they were simple duplicates or some such.

Whether or not they should close threads or delete posts, it's too look up statistics on that. I've known them to do both, and I think both can be valid approaches depending on the situation. I obviously can't comment on what action was taken in specific cases.

From the perspective of someone who moderates (in forums on a different site), I personally don't have any issues with the mods in general (again, I'm not speaking of specific cases).


Well.... it was the second time I have had a non-harmful thread completely closed because someone came in and purposefully derailed it.

I even made an effort to stop the nonsense before it got out of hand the second time.

And I've seen it with other threads, too.

Maybe my particular experience doesn't reflect reality, but I generally avoid truly troll-y threads to begin with, so rarely notice when they are closed.


However, an answer from the mod, when I message asking why, would be nice. I mean, hell, I'd even accept "I can't really tell you, because it will point to the person who reported it." ANYTHING. Just ignoring a person after closing their harmless thread is a dick move. You might as well shit on my pillow. Of course, that's my personal pet peeve, so others may feel differently.
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hatguy12 wrote:

Glancing quickly at the recent closed threads, it appears that only something like 1 out of every 20 was closed without a message from mods explaining why (factoring out year end cleanup and spambot threads). So 19 out of 20 with an explanation is decent, and for all I know, some of that 1/20 didn't have messages because they were simple duplicates or some such.

Whether or not they should close threads or delete posts, it's too look up statistics on that. I've known them to do both, and I think both can be valid approaches depending on the situation. I obviously can't comment on what action was taken in specific cases.

From the perspective of someone who moderates (in forums on a different site), I personally don't have any issues with the mods in general (again, I'm not speaking of specific cases).


from what i´ve seen the numbers are bigger than that the last 2 months threads been closed just because of some people not agreeing with the person and then start saying dumb stuff ending in a closed thread ,i think staff should atleast warn before closing or giving a temporary suspension from replying to threads and being able to just view
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(Replying to several posts in here, but this is more general information that happens to touch on a few things that have been said - not necessarily in my quoted posts, but no need for multiple alerts about my one reply. This will also be a bit long winded, it's the new year and I feel talkative for some reason, and is not touching on any specific closed thread that I know of, just general "reasons stuff is closed and what to do about it" thoughts)

So, right from the start, the folks who moderate the moderators are the support staff. If you have a problem with a specific mod that you can't resolve, be sure to contact support and explain the situation. I don't know what action they might take, but it could include dismissing the mod.

If a mod closes your thread, I know most of us do try to leave a note saying why. There was a recent year-end cleanup that a few mods took part in, which isn't the point here, but just mentioning it as a case where a closing post might not appear. If there is no closing note, try asking another mod in PM if they could find out why it was closed or what happened. Most of us do try to reply to PMs we get, unless someone abuses that (say, by trying to get someone else's thread closed by misrepresenting what went on - had someone do that to me before a few times, and they're now blocked from PM'ing me. Same with people who PM just to swear up a storm - I'm fine with complaints, and I'll try to respond to reason, but throwing f-bombs at me in a PM is a fast track to my block list, where I won't even see that they've tried to contact me again in the future).

When it comes to closing vs cleanup, there's a couple of factors that come into play. One of the biggest right now is a site bug, which we mods can't do anything about and has been reported and tested extensively - basically, as forum posts are removed, future posts in the thread may appear out of order, ahead of existing posts. So if I have to remove a page or more of people ranting back and forth at each other, by removing those future posts will show up ahead of ones that could've been made hours or days previously, making it very difficult to read the thread. If the amount of cleanup needed to make the thread work again would destroy its readability, closing sometimes really is the best choice. I try to make it clear if I'm closing because of something like that, and suggest that the OP create a new thread to replace the old if there's still discussion to be had.

Another big factor is time. This isn't a job for us mods. We aren't paid, and other than the stuff we can do to forum posts and such, we're all just users, too. That's one reason I always encourage folks to report a problem post rather than replying to it, or escalating/retaliating. If I can quickly go in and deal with a small problem, that's always preferable (especially in light of that site bug).

Attack threads often get shut down, or threads where the OP takes part in attacking others even if the thread didn't start out as an attack, just as a general thing.

So, I'd say if you're not getting a response from the mod who closed your thread in a reasonable time (give it a day, please, we do have jobs and sleep and such!), or don't know which mod closed the thread because there was no closing message, you could also try contacting a different mod before taking it to support. If you're worried about the mods "circling the wagons" or whatever, then do take it to support.

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In the end, a lot of stuff also gets reported in here for silly reasons - someone wrote a bad review of an anime, and someone who loves it will report it with the reason "this user is stupid", for example. We don't take action on those. I had a user write a thread just to complain about me recently, since he apparently never saw that while I had removed some of his posts, I also took down posts attacking him. He never saw them, and just assumed I was targeting him because of a difference of opinion.

But when serious reports come in, we do try to take care of them. So again, please use that report link if someone's trying to derail a thread, trolling others, or other kinds of rule breaking, rather than replying/escalating. It saves everyone time and worry.
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