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Social Justice Warrior, The Slur Of The Modern Conservative?
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We're talking about the word's usage in comparison to whatever definition you happened to connect it with, which I feel is a major disparity between both.


Why discuss the word's usage if the meaning behind it is not discussed as well? Does it make your SJW blood boil? lol


I didn't say we shouldn't discuss the word's supposed meaning. Rather, the opposite. I feel once you attach a negative stereotype to a word, than you apply that word liberally and without discrimination, that's when I believe such a word becomes a slur. A denigration, an insult stereotyping an entire ideology or group of people instead of describing the very people who fit the definition.


Social Justice Warrior, Tea Bagger, liberal, conservative, democrap, repubican, every word can become a slur to someone if you let it. They are just words, and contrary to popular belief, words DON'T hurt unless you let them.

Words have been twisted to mean different things since man has had the ability to speak.
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So SJW originated on Tumblr to describe people on Tumblr?

Seems that way. I havent done much research on the term so don't quote me on it.
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Social Justice Warrior, Tea Bagger, liberal, conservative, democrap, repubican, every word can become a slur to someone if you let it. They are just words, and contrary to popular belief, words DON'T hurt unless you let them.

Words have been twisted to mean different things since man has had the ability to speak.


I agree with you. Every word has a potential to become a slur. However, is Social Justice Warrior's definition contrast with its "meaning" to the point that the meaning itself has changed to mean something else entirely? I feel this is what happens when people misuse a word, or use it too often.
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No doubt the term "Social Justice Warrior" is sometimes used to marginalize legitimate complaints. I don't think there is anything wrong with standing up for liberal ideas, becoming offended at racism/bigotry, or standing up for minority groups that are being oppressed. These are all good things in my opinion. It's also true that you can take it too far.

There are some people who look for any reason to be offended, just so they can have an excuse to take the moral high ground and launch into a self-righteous diatribe. You can see this in so called "Social Justice Warriors" who nit-pick vocabulary, can't take joke, and seem to get deeply offended by anything that doesn't fit into their narrow definition of what is right or "PC". The same thing happens on the right, with FOX news, aggressive pro-lifers, the "war on Christmas", etc.

In both cases people are putting their own beliefs before compassion and reason. Instead of giving into outrage we should try to have more measured responses to the things that offend us.
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hahaha SJW wanna control everyone and everything, anyone that thinks for themselves is a threat. They're a joke.





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Okay, here's what tipped me off. The fact is, people often try to undermine or deny the validity of say, the LGBT movement, or any 3rd wave feminist, by using extreme examples of them at work, case in point the trans age 50 some year old man pretending to be a 6 year old girl, and due to the constant rambling of a certain forumer with a megaman avatar, I've come to realize that Social Justice Warrior seems a lot like a slur by conservative to attack liberal movements. What do you think?


Of course it is.
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SJW is typically a snarl word nowadays. Though it may be applied legitimately in some cases, it's frequently used to bludgeon the reputation of ideological opponents to death.

Though fairly lengthy, I feel this video does a good look into just what makes an SJW an SJW.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZl9tKBARCA

But yeah, SJW is a term thrown around far too often. It's become yet another weapon in an arsenal of sociopolitical snarl words.
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We need to round SJW's into concentration camps and burn them all in one small oven.
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Is crazy to think I was debating on becoming a SJW like 4 years ago. Happy I didnt.
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No doubt the term "Social Justice Warrior" is sometimes used to marginalize legitimate complaints. I don't think there is anything wrong with standing up for liberal ideas, becoming offended at racism/bigotry, or standing up for minority groups that are being oppressed. These are all good things in my opinion. It's also true that you can take it too far.

There are some people who look for any reason to be offended, just so they can have an excuse to take the moral high ground and launch into a self-righteous diatribe. You can see this in so called "Social Justice Warriors" who nit-pick vocabulary, can't take joke, and seem to get deeply offended by anything that doesn't fit into their narrow definition of what is right or "PC". The same thing happens on the right, with FOX news, aggressive pro-lifers, the "war on Christmas", etc.

In both cases people are putting their own beliefs before compassion and reason. Instead of giving into outrage we should try to have more measured responses to the things that offend us.


Best answer.


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op, or whatever. Your feelings have no place in a debate. what you are feeling dosent matter.
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Didn't we already have a thread like this? I remember proclaiming that I am a proud SJW... a Super Judar Warrior.
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SJW is typically a snarl word nowadays. Though it may be applied legitimately in some cases, it's frequently used to bludgeon the reputation of ideological opponents to death.

Though fairly lengthy, I feel this video does a good look into just what makes an SJW an SJW.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZl9tKBARCA

But yeah, SJW is a term thrown around far too often. It's become yet another weapon in an arsenal of sociopolitical snarl words.


Agreed. It is usually just a snarl word presently.

Video was actually really awesome. Brilliant way of really breaking it down.



I'll try to summarize it for those too lazy to watch it:


+What is a "Social Justice Warrior"?
1. Far Left
2. Mostly concerned with Identity Politics
3. Low integrated complexity thinking
A "Social Justice Warrior" is someone with a secular worldview, but a parochial mindset. They are distinguished less by ideology, and more by certain thinking style.

+Social Justice at his Computer
--Social media allows users to tailor content. This creates an issue with news with politics. This differs from traditional echo chambers because it only consists of one--content is aggravated specifically for an individual. This makes issues more 'clear' and 'simple' and eliminates 'shades of gray'. It's on individuals to challenge themselves and create checks.

+But is it?
--Everything "Social Justice Warrior's" take in they first have to funnel through a narrow set of politically charged abstractions.
--Message elevates the work, not the other way around. Not being able to see context outside of specific political message. Condemnation of those that do not hold a similar opinion.

+This may make you feel unsafe
--Parochialism
--Ideological comfort zones.



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Didn't we already have a thread like this? I remember proclaiming that I am a proud SJW... a Super Judar Warrior.


I much prefer those.
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Okay, here's what tipped me off. The fact is, people often try to undermine or deny the validity of say, the LGBT movement, or any 3rd wave feminist, by using extreme examples of them at work, case in point the trans age 50 some year old man pretending to be a 6 year old girl, and due to the constant rambling of a certain forumer with a megaman avatar, I've come to realize that Social Justice Warrior seems a lot like a slur by conservative to attack liberal movements. What do you think?


Sorry but the trans man who's pretending to be a six year old girl ain't right in the head.


As for the topic itself...I have to agree actually. It seems like that if you disagree with ANYTHING, it's 'YOU SJW!'
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Okay, here's what tipped me off. The fact is, people often try to undermine or deny the validity of say, the LGBT movement, or any 3rd wave feminist, by using extreme examples of them at work, case in point the trans age 50 some year old man pretending to be a 6 year old girl, and due to the constant rambling of a certain forumer with a megaman avatar, I've come to realize that Social Justice Warrior seems a lot like a slur by conservative to attack liberal movements. What do you think?


Sorry but the trans man who's pretending to be a six year old girl ain't right in the head.


You misread. They use examples of this to invalidate normal transgender individual, I.E. "being transgender is about as ridiculous as being transpecies." Case in point, that video in the link was posted on an Anti SJW page.
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