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It is people like you who are ruining this country not the militia. No one will starve no one will get killed. Sounds like you need to leave the united states and live elsewhere. Or just stop opening you misinformed mouth about topics you don't comprehend. Read the constitution. It is the law of the land. It wasn't written by liberals or silly republicans. It was written by Americans. Who did this exact thing in response to oppression from a governing body. Over a 2% tax. Read up and educate yourself on what the definition of a militia even is before calling them terrorists.

/sigh

Did they deserve jail, yes if convicted by a jury of their peers, should they have served more time? That's not for us to say that was for the jury to say. Were there terrorists? Um... no that's a huge leap. Don't judge people based on what you read on the internet. It's truly the down fall of western civilization. Stop judging. Research. Get informed.
And stop calling for the deaths of innocent Americans exercising their rights as Americans under our constitutional rights.
Posted 1/3/16 , edited 1/3/16

Nogara-san wrote:


VZ68 wrote:


Nogara-san wrote:
No one's doing anything about it though. According to some of the articles and even tweets I've seen about this, there's no law presence around.

And if this was someone Muslim, or African American or anything else? You know damn well the government wouldn't hesitate for a second to shoot them down. But noooo.....let's let some pissed off white trash do whatever they wanna do


Really?








There's always a few exceptions to the rule. My point still stands though; white men will get talked to and counseled, while everyone else gets shot or whatever.

Hopefully the YAllQueda just bores themselves from gorging on snack bars, cokes they can steal from the soda machines and fuck all the taxidermied animals they want before they go home.


"My point still stands though; white men will get talked to and counseled, while everyone else gets shot or whatever. "

Really?
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-32295217





https://www.policeone.com/use-of-force/articles/7653755-Cops-hesitate-more-err-less-when-shooting-black-suspects-study-finds/

It's not true, now stop being so racist against whites.



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Nogara-san wrote:


VZ68 wrote:


Nogara-san wrote:
No one's doing anything about it though. According to some of the articles and even tweets I've seen about this, there's no law presence around.

And if this was someone Muslim, or African American or anything else? You know damn well the government wouldn't hesitate for a second to shoot them down. But noooo.....let's let some pissed off white trash do whatever they wanna do


Really?








There's always a few exceptions to the rule. My point still stands though; white men will get talked to and counseled, while everyone else gets shot or whatever.

Hopefully the YAllQueda just bores themselves from gorging on snack bars, cokes they can steal from the soda machines and fuck all the taxidermied animals they want before they go home.




Come on, that's being really racist calling them "few exceptions" to the rule.

https://youtu.be/YOS065ZJwT4

https://youtu.be/53Jd3ltvb8k
Posted 1/3/16 , edited 1/4/16
Is no about being acknowledge. Is about their bias.
Oh, you can laugh all you want. I learn more in that video about the situation than the government own report
Reputable my ass.
Also I not trying to defend them. You imbecile. I made clear I do no approve of this course of action.
Posted 1/3/16

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WeeabooWarrior wrote:
Ugh, Waco Siege ring any bell?


Chanel Andrade, 1, American
Jennifer Andrade, 19, American
Katherine Andrade, 24, American
George Bennett, 35, British
Susan Benta, 31, British
Mary Jean Borst, 49, American
Pablo Cohen, 38, Israeli
Abedowalo Davies, 30, British
Shari Doyle, 18, American
Beverly Elliot, 30, British
Doris Fagan, 51, British
Yvette Fagan, 32, British
Lisa Marie Farris, 24, American
Raymond Friesen, 76, Canadian
Sandra Hardial, 27, British
Diana Henry, 28, British
Paulina Henry, 24, British
Phillip Henry, 22, British
Stephen Henry, 26, British
Vanessa Henry, 19, British
Zilla Henry, 55, British
Novellette Hipsman, 36, Canadian
Floyd Houtman, 61, American
Sherri Jewell, 43, American
David M. Jones, 38, American
Bobbie Lane Koresh, 2, American
Cyrus Koresh, 8, American
David Koresh, 33, American
Rachel Koresh, 24, American
Star Koresh, 6, American
Jeffery Little, 32, American
Nicole Gent Little (pregnant), 24, Australian
Dayland Lord Gent, 3, Australian[72]
Paiges Gent,[73] 1, American
Livingston Malcolm, 26, British
Anita Martin, 18, American
Diane Martin, 41, British
Lisa Martin, 13, American
Sheila Martin, Jr., 15, American
Wayne Martin, Jr., 20, American
Wayne Martin, Sr., 42, American
Abigail Martinez, 11, American
Audrey Martinez, 13, American
Crystal Martinez, 3, American
Isaiah Martinez, 4, American
Joseph Martinez, 8, American
Julliete Martinez, 30, American
John-Mark McBean, 27, British
Bernadette Monbelly, 31, British
Melissa Morrison, 6, British
Rosemary Morrison, 29, British
Sonia Murray, 29, American
Theresa Nobrega, 48, British
James Riddle, 32, American
Rebecca Saipaia, 24, Filipino
Judy Schneider, 41, American
Steve Schneider, 43, American
Mayanah Schneider, 2, American
Clifford Sellors, 33, British
Scott Kojiro Sonobe, 35, American
Floracita Sonobe, 34, Filipino
Aisha Gyrfas Summers (pregnant), 17, Australian
Gregory Summers, 28, American
Startle Summers, 1, American
Hollywood Sylvia, 1, American
Lorraine Sylvia, 40, American
Rachel Sylvia, 12, American
Chica Jones, 2, American
Michelle Jones Thibodeau, 18, American
Serenity Jones, 4, American
Little One Jones, 2, American
Margarida Vaega, 47, New Zealander
Neal Vaega, 38, New Zealander
Mark H. Wendell, 40, American



Really surprised that Waco, a multi-national, multi-race, siege didn't cause more drama.


OK FINE, WELL PLAY IT THIS WAY THEN.





Posted 1/3/16

megahobbit wrote:


KarenAraragi wrote:

I no defending their actions. I care if justifiable to me. Regardless of the means. Even if I find it justifiable. Doesn't mean I approve of their course of action. I will have handled it differently.


Yeah but thats besides the point. Im kinda shocked by how many people go straight to the Hammonds when talking about this. The fact that a militia did this scares the shit out of me. Hard right militias are out of control at this point and the fact that they basically organized an act of terrorism freaks me the fuck out.


Well just found out how many of them are. Like 12 people or something. That no a militia. That a joke. The people calling for the government to shoot these people are idiots. Yeah, let turn this into a blood bath. Because that wouldn't make them a Marty.
Either way this going to get ugly. Either they surrender or die, seeing how extreme their actions are. Well they are going to pick dead.
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KarenAraragi wrote:


megahobbit wrote:


KarenAraragi wrote:

I no defending their actions. I care if justifiable to me. Regardless of the means. Even if I find it justifiable. Doesn't mean I approve of their course of action. I will have handled it differently.


Yeah but thats besides the point. Im kinda shocked by how many people go straight to the Hammonds when talking about this. The fact that a militia did this scares the shit out of me. Hard right militias are out of control at this point and the fact that they basically organized an act of terrorism freaks me the fuck out.


Well just found out how many of them are. Like 12 people or something. That no a militia. That a joke. The people calling for the government to shoot these people are idiots. Yeah, let turn this into a blood bath. Because that wouldn't make them a Marty.
Either way this going to get ugly. Either they surrender or die, seeing how extreme their actions are. Well they are going to pick dead.


12 people in Burns is a good percent of the population in the town.
Posted 1/3/16

VZ68 wrote:


KarenAraragi wrote:


megahobbit wrote:


KarenAraragi wrote:

I no defending their actions. I care if justifiable to me. Regardless of the means. Even if I find it justifiable. Doesn't mean I approve of their course of action. I will have handled it differently.


Yeah but thats besides the point. Im kinda shocked by how many people go straight to the Hammonds when talking about this. The fact that a militia did this scares the shit out of me. Hard right militias are out of control at this point and the fact that they basically organized an act of terrorism freaks me the fuck out.


Well just found out how many of them are. Like 12 people or something. That no a militia. That a joke. The people calling for the government to shoot these people are idiots. Yeah, let turn this into a blood bath. Because that wouldn't make them a Marty.
Either way this going to get ugly. Either they surrender or die, seeing how extreme their actions are. Well they are going to pick dead.


12 people in Burns is a good percent of the population in the town.


Well, that may explain why I find this situation mental.
Posted 1/3/16 , edited 1/3/16

Ermachko wrote:

It is people like you who are ruining this country not the militia. No one will starve no one will get killed. Sounds like you need to leave the united states and live elsewhere. Or just stop opening you misinformed mouth about topics you don't comprehend. Read the constitution. It is the law of the land. It wasn't written by liberals or silly republicans. It was written by Americans. Who did this exact thing in response to oppression from a governing body. Over a 2% tax. Read up and educate yourself on what the definition of a militia even is before calling them terrorists.

/sigh

Did they deserve jail, yes if convicted by a jury of their peers, should they have served more time? That's not for us to say that was for the jury to say. Were there terrorists? Um... no that's a huge leap. Don't judge people based on what you read on the internet. It's truly the down fall of western civilization. Stop judging. Research. Get informed.
And stop calling for the deaths of innocent Americans exercising their rights as Americans under our constitutional rights.


This a bit of wishful thinking.
Definitions of Terrorism.
The use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.
So what am I missing here?
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Posted 1/3/16 , edited 1/3/16

KarenAraragi wrote:


Ermachko wrote:

It is people like you who are ruining this country not the militia. No one will starve no one will get killed. Sounds like you need to leave the united states and live elsewhere. Or just stop opening you misinformed mouth about topics you don't comprehend. Read the constitution. It is the law of the land. It wasn't written by liberals or silly republicans. It was written by Americans. Who did this exact thing in response to oppression from a governing body. Over a 2% tax. Read up and educate yourself on what the definition of a militia even is before calling them terrorists.

/sigh

Did they deserve jail, yes if convicted by a jury of their peers, should they have served more time? That's not for us to say that was for the jury to say. Were there terrorists? Um... no that's a huge leap. Don't judge people based on what you read on the internet. It's truly the down fall of western civilization. Stop judging. Research. Get informed.
And stop calling for the deaths of innocent Americans exercising their rights as Americans under our constitutional rights.


This a bit of wishful thinking.
Definitions of Terrorism.
The use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.
So what am I missing here?


There white. People seem blind to the idea of domestic terrorism even though its has a pretty storied history. Unabomber, Oklahoma city bomber (who had ties to the Militia movement), etc.
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Ermachko wrote:

It is people like you who are ruining this country not the militia. No one will starve no one will get killed. Sounds like you need to leave the united states and live elsewhere. Or just stop opening you misinformed mouth about topics you don't comprehend. Read the constitution. It is the law of the land. It wasn't written by liberals or silly republicans. It was written by Americans. Who did this exact thing in response to oppression from a governing body. Over a 2% tax. Read up and educate yourself on what the definition of a militia even is before calling them terrorists.

/sigh

Did they deserve jail, yes if convicted by a jury of their peers, should they have served more time? That's not for us to say that was for the jury to say. Were there terrorists? Um... no that's a huge leap. Don't judge people based on what you read on the internet. It's truly the down fall of western civilization. Stop judging. Research. Get informed.
And stop calling for the deaths of innocent Americans exercising their rights as Americans under our constitutional rights.


Yeah im gonna go exercise my right to break into a government building and refuse to leave on threat of violence til they overturn a conviction. Thats totally within my rights as a citizen.

Militia as a term has been spread thing especially given that in the modern times Militias arent necessary and have transformed from reserve troops to Paramilitary organizations. There not the same thing they were in the 1700s
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VZ68 wrote:


WeeabooWarrior wrote:
Ugh, Waco Siege ring any bell?


Chanel Andrade, 1, American
Jennifer Andrade, 19, American
Katherine Andrade, 24, American
George Bennett, 35, British
Susan Benta, 31, British
Mary Jean Borst, 49, American
Pablo Cohen, 38, Israeli
Abedowalo Davies, 30, British
Shari Doyle, 18, American
Beverly Elliot, 30, British
Doris Fagan, 51, British
Yvette Fagan, 32, British
Lisa Marie Farris, 24, American
Raymond Friesen, 76, Canadian
Sandra Hardial, 27, British
Diana Henry, 28, British
Paulina Henry, 24, British
Phillip Henry, 22, British
Stephen Henry, 26, British
Vanessa Henry, 19, British
Zilla Henry, 55, British
Novellette Hipsman, 36, Canadian
Floyd Houtman, 61, American
Sherri Jewell, 43, American
David M. Jones, 38, American
Bobbie Lane Koresh, 2, American
Cyrus Koresh, 8, American
David Koresh, 33, American
Rachel Koresh, 24, American
Star Koresh, 6, American
Jeffery Little, 32, American
Nicole Gent Little (pregnant), 24, Australian
Dayland Lord Gent, 3, Australian[72]
Paiges Gent,[73] 1, American
Livingston Malcolm, 26, British
Anita Martin, 18, American
Diane Martin, 41, British
Lisa Martin, 13, American
Sheila Martin, Jr., 15, American
Wayne Martin, Jr., 20, American
Wayne Martin, Sr., 42, American
Abigail Martinez, 11, American
Audrey Martinez, 13, American
Crystal Martinez, 3, American
Isaiah Martinez, 4, American
Joseph Martinez, 8, American
Julliete Martinez, 30, American
John-Mark McBean, 27, British
Bernadette Monbelly, 31, British
Melissa Morrison, 6, British
Rosemary Morrison, 29, British
Sonia Murray, 29, American
Theresa Nobrega, 48, British
James Riddle, 32, American
Rebecca Saipaia, 24, Filipino
Judy Schneider, 41, American
Steve Schneider, 43, American
Mayanah Schneider, 2, American
Clifford Sellors, 33, British
Scott Kojiro Sonobe, 35, American
Floracita Sonobe, 34, Filipino
Aisha Gyrfas Summers (pregnant), 17, Australian
Gregory Summers, 28, American
Startle Summers, 1, American
Hollywood Sylvia, 1, American
Lorraine Sylvia, 40, American
Rachel Sylvia, 12, American
Chica Jones, 2, American
Michelle Jones Thibodeau, 18, American
Serenity Jones, 4, American
Little One Jones, 2, American
Margarida Vaega, 47, New Zealander
Neal Vaega, 38, New Zealander
Mark H. Wendell, 40, American



Really surprised that Waco, a multi-national, multi-race, siege didn't cause more drama.


Cause race had nothing to do with Waco
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So what race has to do with this?
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So what race has to do with this?


Ill say this if these people were Arabic they would not have as many defenders as they do now.
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