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This is due to the fact women are no longer loyal they sleep around and only care about money. Society is set up to cater to women.


Holy shit, someone has a complex.
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biscuitnote wrote:

This is due to the fact women are no longer loyal they sleep around and only care about money. Society is set up to cater to women.


Just watch. Someone, probably a femnazi hoe will quote you and say "well what about men? They sleep around too.."


Women do it at a far higher percentage rate than men. Also over 80 percent of divorces are initiated by women mainly because they want to take the man to the cleaners and get as much child support and alimony out of him. Men are waking up to the scam that is marriage.
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Successful marriages are declining, but not dying. We are in a moment of transition. People are now finding sex and romance outside of marriage. You should not be getting married if it don't plan on having children.

If anything, the statistics show that you should not put a ring on a bitch quickly. You should take your time and make sure you both have your shit together and are plenty capable of compromising.

Traditional and romantic marriages are dying.



There is an increasing gap in marriages between the educated and not. Women with at least a bachelors degree are much more likely to to be married in their 40's.


2007 was the first year in American history when marriage rates were higher for college grads than non-grads, over the age of 30.


Considering more women are getting a college education, this is a good sign.


To take one of dozens of illustrations, Brad Wilcox estimates that children raised by married parents are 44% more likely to go to college. It is, inevitably, fiendishly difficult to tease out cause and effect here: Highly-educated, highly-committed parents, in a loving, stable relationship are likely to raise successful children, regardless of their marital status. It is hard to work out whether marriage itself is making much difference, or whether it is, as many commentators now claim, merely the "capstone" of a successful relationship.




The first and second are dying. The third is becoming increasingly more prominent and successful.




The bitter irony is that those most likely to disdain female breadwinners (the least educated men and women) would be helped the most by dual-earner households. The men who want to be breadwinners are very often the ones least able to fill that role.

Traditional marriage, then, is being undermined on all sides. Most Americans think marriage is not necessary for sexual fulfillment, personal happiness, or financial security, according to Pew Research. They’re right.

[...]

In fact, we can see marriage persisting among the most affluent and educated Americans. But they’re not going back to the old model their parents rejected. They are creating a new model for marriage—one that is liberal about adult roles, conservative about raising children.

The central rationale for these marriages is to raise children together, in a settled, nurturing environment. So, well-educated Americans are ensuring that they are financially stable before having children, by delaying childrearing. They are also putting their relationship on a sound footing too—they’re not in the business of love at first sight, rushing to the altar, or eloping to Vegas. College graduates take their time to select a partner; and then, once the marriage is at least a couple of years old, take the final step and become parents. Money, marriage, maternity: in that order.





The proportion of children being raised by a single parent has more than doubled in the last four decades. Most black children are now being raised by a single mother. Mass incarceration plays a role here: More than half of black men without a high school degree do some jail time before they turn 30. In short, the nation faces a fathering deficit. By continuing to see the male role in such constricting terms—as breadwinner or nothing—we are inadvertently contributing to the slow death of marriage in our most disadvantaged communities.

[...]

The children who can benefit most from high levels of parental investment, from both mom and dad, are the poorest. HIP marriages are an elite invention that could make the greatest difference in the poorest communities, if only attitudes can be shifted. Our central problem is not the slow retreat of the idea of traditional marriage. It is the stubborn persistence of the idea of traditional marriage among those people for whom it has lost almost all rationale.


To decrease your chances of divorce:








Men are 50 percent more likely to end up divorced when they said their partner's looks were important in their decision to get married, and women are 60 percent more likely to end up divorced when they cared about their partner’s wealth, compared to people who said they cared about neither.


Also, do not spend a lot on a wedding and do go on a honeymoon.

The real divorce inequalities:





Keep in mind the risk of divorce is greatest in the first 10 years of marriage. The longer a marriage lasts, the more likely it is to keep lasting.



All of this should sum into shit you should already know. Marriage should not be taken lightly. You should damn well take your time about it. You should make it about the children.

It's not as simple as 'women are the problem'. The problem is the traditional and romantic marriages. We have condoms and birth control now, the fuck yah expect? All things into account, my personal chance of divorce is somewhere between 5-10%, not 50%.

Basically, the real problem is get educated and get with the program.

Sources:
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/10/stop-calling-marriage-a-luxury-good/280996/
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/02/how-to-save-marriage-in-america/283732/
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/10/the-divorce-proof-marriage/381401/
http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2013/article/marriage-and-divorce-patterns-by-gender-race-and-educational-attainment.htm

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biscuitnote wrote:

This is due to the fact women are no longer loyal they sleep around and only care about money. Society is set up to cater to women.


Holy shit, someone has a complex.


You're only just noticing this now?
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biscuitnote wrote:

This is due to the fact women are no longer loyal they sleep around and only care about money. Society is set up to cater to women.


Holy shit, someone has a complex.


Female privilege is a very real thing
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Successful marriages are declining, but not dying. We are in a moment of transition. People are now finding sex and romance outside of marriage. You should not be getting married if it don't plan on having children.

If anything, the statistics show that you should not put a ring on a bitch quickly. You should take your time and make sure you both have your shit together and are plenty capable of compromising.

Traditional and romantic marriages are dying.



There is an increasing gap in marriages between the educated and not. Women with at least a bachelors degree are much more likely to to be married in their 40's.


2007 was the first year in American history when marriage rates were higher for college grads than non-grads, over the age of 30.


Considering more women are getting a college education, this is a good sign.


To take one of dozens of illustrations, Brad Wilcox estimates that children raised by married parents are 44% more likely to go to college. It is, inevitably, fiendishly difficult to tease out cause and effect here: Highly-educated, highly-committed parents, in a loving, stable relationship are likely to raise successful children, regardless of their marital status. It is hard to work out whether marriage itself is making much difference, or whether it is, as many commentators now claim, merely the "capstone" of a successful relationship.




The first and second are dying. The third is becoming increasingly more prominent and successful.




The bitter irony is that those most likely to disdain female breadwinners (the least educated men and women) would be helped the most by dual-earner households. The men who want to be breadwinners are very often the ones least able to fill that role.

Traditional marriage, then, is being undermined on all sides. Most Americans think marriage is not necessary for sexual fulfillment, personal happiness, or financial security, according to Pew Research. They’re right.

[...]

In fact, we can see marriage persisting among the most affluent and educated Americans. But they’re not going back to the old model their parents rejected. They are creating a new model for marriage—one that is liberal about adult roles, conservative about raising children.

The central rationale for these marriages is to raise children together, in a settled, nurturing environment. So, well-educated Americans are ensuring that they are financially stable before having children, by delaying childrearing. They are also putting their relationship on a sound footing too—they’re not in the business of love at first sight, rushing to the altar, or eloping to Vegas. College graduates take their time to select a partner; and then, once the marriage is at least a couple of years old, take the final step and become parents. Money, marriage, maternity: in that order.





The proportion of children being raised by a single parent has more than doubled in the last four decades. Most black children are now being raised by a single mother. Mass incarceration plays a role here: More than half of black men without a high school degree do some jail time before they turn 30. In short, the nation faces a fathering deficit. By continuing to see the male role in such constricting terms—as breadwinner or nothing—we are inadvertently contributing to the slow death of marriage in our most disadvantaged communities.

[...]

The children who can benefit most from high levels of parental investment, from both mom and dad, are the poorest. HIP marriages are an elite invention that could make the greatest difference in the poorest communities, if only attitudes can be shifted. Our central problem is not the slow retreat of the idea of traditional marriage. It is the stubborn persistence of the idea of traditional marriage among those people for whom it has lost almost all rationale.


To decrease your chances of divorce:








Men are 50 percent more likely to end up divorced when they said their partner's looks were important in their decision to get married, and women are 60 percent more likely to end up divorced when they cared about their partner’s wealth, compared to people who said they cared about neither.


Also, do not spend a lot on a wedding and do go on a honeymoon.

The real divorce inequalities:





Keep in mind the risk of divorce is greatest in the first 10 years of marriage. The longer a marriage lasts, the more likely it is to keep lasting.



All of this should sum into shit you should already know. Marriage should not be taken lightly. You should damn well take your time about it. You should make it about the children.

It's not as simple as 'women are the problem'. The problem is the traditional and romantic marriages. We have condoms and birth control now, the fuck yah expect? All things into account, my personal chance of divorce is somewhere between 5-10%, not 50%.

Basically, the real problem is get educated and get with the program.

Sources:
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/10/stop-calling-marriage-a-luxury-good/280996/
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/02/how-to-save-marriage-in-america/283732/
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/10/the-divorce-proof-marriage/381401/
http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2013/article/marriage-and-divorce-patterns-by-gender-race-and-educational-attainment.htm



"You should not be getting married if it don't plan on having children."

I don't want children well i do but i probably won't have them since the girl im with doesn't want them.

I don't see why i shouldn't get married because its just us for life either way why not make it official since we are only going to get romance and sex from eachother.

I don't see why a romantic marriage can't work and why it has to be about children.

Marriage is a step up from dating where you make it official for life....why should that only be done if you are having children?

Makes no sense to me as you can have a marriage without kids that lasts if you have proper communication and work together.
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"You should not be getting married if it don't plan on having children."

I don't want children well i do but i probably won't have them since the girl im with doesn't want them.

I don't see why i shouldn't get married because its just us for life either way why not make it official since we are only going to get romance and sex from eachother.

I don't see why a romantic marriage can't work and why it has to be about children.


It can work, but it often doesn't. Sex and romance can be found outside of marriage. Marriage is simply the ideal environment for raising children.

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Ryulightorb wrote:

"You should not be getting married if it don't plan on having children."

I don't want children well i do but i probably won't have them since the girl im with doesn't want them.

I don't see why i shouldn't get married because its just us for life either way why not make it official since we are only going to get romance and sex from eachother.

I don't see why a romantic marriage can't work and why it has to be about children.


It can work, but it often doesn't. Sex and romance can be found outside of marriage. Marriage is simply the ideal environment for raising children.





Sex and romance can be found outside of marriage yes but that's called DATING which is the step below marriage.

If you can't last through a marriage you shouldn't be dating at all in my opinion because if your going to break up and go your separate was then why the hell get together in the first place...

It doesn't work i assume because the majority of the people i have met with relationships problems or who get divorced don't try to even work out there problems and are selfish and ignorant.
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Ryulightorb wrote:

"You should not be getting married if it don't plan on having children."

I don't want children well i do but i probably won't have them since the girl im with doesn't want them.

I don't see why i shouldn't get married because its just us for life either way why not make it official since we are only going to get romance and sex from eachother.

I don't see why a romantic marriage can't work and why it has to be about children.


It can work, but it often doesn't. Sex and romance can be found outside of marriage. Marriage is simply the ideal environment for raising children.





Sadly in modern urban society children are more of a liability than an asset.
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Sadly in modern urban society children are more of a liability than an asset.


They are not for us all.

When attributing it to women's greed, wouldn't it make sense then that the wealthiest have the highest divorce rates then? Shockingly, they don't.

Us educated shitlords have this figured out already.




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Sex and romance can be found outside of marriage yes but that's called DATING which is the step below marriage.

If you can't last through a marriage you shouldn't be dating at all in my opinion because if your going to break up and go your separate was then why the hell get together in the first place...

It doesn't work i assume because the majority of the people i have met with relationships problems or who get divorced don't try to even work out there problems and are selfish and ignorant.


That's part of the issue. The other is, well, do you need a ring on her to stay committed?

Romantic marriages are still a thing, certainly, they're just dying out. Your desires are becoming increasingly uncommon.
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PrinceJudar wrote:


biscuitnote wrote:

Sadly in modern urban society children are more of a liability than an asset.


They are not for us all.

When attributing it to women's greed, wouldn't it make sense then that the wealthiest have the highest divorce rates then? Shockingly, they don't.

Us educated shitlords have this figured out already.




Ryulightorb wrote:
Sex and romance can be found outside of marriage yes but that's called DATING which is the step below marriage.

If you can't last through a marriage you shouldn't be dating at all in my opinion because if your going to break up and go your separate was then why the hell get together in the first place...

It doesn't work i assume because the majority of the people i have met with relationships problems or who get divorced don't try to even work out there problems and are selfish and ignorant.


That's part of the issue. The other is, well, do you need a ring on her to stay committed?



Nope you don't but it atleast to me makes little sense to not make it official if you are going to stay committed anyhow.
but you can be commited without marriage definitely.

Still i feel if you date someone marriage or some equivelant promise should be the end goal so to speak.

Maybe i'm just old fashioned though.
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Nope you don't but it atleast to me makes little sense to not make it official if you are going to stay committed anyhow.
but you can be commited without marriage definitely.

Still i feel if you date someone marriage or some equivelant promise should be the end goal so to speak.

Maybe i'm just old fashioned though.


Meh, there's still quite a bit of us that are 'old fashioned'.



Just becoming increasingly more of a rarity.
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PrinceJudar wrote: When attributing it to women's greed, wouldn't it make sense then that the wealthiest have the highest divorce rates then? Shockingly, they don't.
sadly in some places in the world children are used by parents sometimes as tools/collectors and tries to have many of them even if its not benefitcal to what one could live of (meaning trying to get as many little workers see how long they "last" then try to build up something that could work where they live.. damn it earth!)

anyway just wanted to say that by some reason.. but else yeah those "rich" or rather rich enough will be screwed a bit (a older man to careless then going finding a younger women, even though most of them never has a marriage unless its like the old tales of step-mother)


but still when that happends its more like the guy was "weak" and some knew it would never work either, some with females as well or just any good willed people getting the edges and walking on a thin line.

Just for the sake of it..

A Pimp Named Slickback
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmeprzFOA64
Tom Tries To Learn How To Hit A Bitch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8HscP3XrVo


biscuitnote wrote: Female privilege is a very real thing
and so?...


Also I justed to say, it seems more just want to "test" marriage or being "curious" about it then don't care anymore then leaves and at that point I would say Males do get tired quite quickly XP


PrinceJudar wrote:
Just becoming increasingly more of a rarity.
wouldn't really say so, really when people tend to see the "benefits" and what works.

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A ritual that has lost it's force sadly enough...
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