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Posted 1/21/16
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As long as I can talk to someone about things beyond political view, I don't care.
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Posted 1/21/16
How threatening is tumblr? are they taking over? will they over throw the government? should I convert to the chinese yuan now?

It's not as threatening as people's imagination is making it out to be.
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WeeabooWarrior wrote:

Modern day liberals are no different than Stalinist's.

It's just the number of steps they take to achieve their goals takes longer, but the end game is the same.



Well... you're not wrong, I guess, most leftists movements do have similar end goals, to eliminate - either completely or as much as possible - the divisions created by class, gender and race; but the methods each of these movements plans to take to reach that end goal is what differentiates these groups.

Stalinists, Trotskists, Anarchists, Social-Democrats all have that one same end goal, but they pretty much hate each other because method is a big deal. And I think that, in your argument, when you say "It's just the number of steps they take to achieve their goals [...]" it really undermines the importance of the means with which to reach an end.

You could argue that this end goal in it of itself is not a good one (which seems to be what you were going for) or that there's currently no good way to reach that goal. But to claim that the differences in the ways through which each group reaches it is just wrong.
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Posted 1/22/16
Hundreds of thousands, maybe a few million, but considering there's seven billion people and counting in the world, I don't think they'll swell to threatening proportions.
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Posted 1/22/16
All of them, elevated kek.
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Posted 1/22/16
All the extreme liberals went away when the Soviet Union died...



Seriously . . . If you count the people that used to be considered moderates when I was a kid there are millions, no tens of millions of them. Ike would be a X-treme liberal now days....
Crap, Barry Goldwater would be a middle of the roader nowdays...
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Posted 1/22/16
Every single one.
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Posted 1/22/16
Any philosophy can develop extremists and obnoxious, zealous ideologues. They definitely exist among American liberals, but they are not as loud and prevalent right now (from what I have seen) as the conservative batch at the moment so I think they get less notice. These things tend to rise and fall. I don't tend to fit in very well with hard core adherents of philosophies. Many are good on paper, but usually leave something to be desired in execution. I like solving problems for the lowest possible cost in human dignity and in economic terms. This doesn't seem to be a real priority for most groups devoted to any given ideology. I also usually find that every agenda group out there tends to be deceptive if I fact check them. Misusing statistics, not understanding the limits of a raw data set or a given study, using very outdated data, etc. There are also a lot of false dichotomies promoted. Like capitalism vs. socialism in terms of economic systems. We already have a hybrid system in the US. It is not fully one or the other. I tend to find the idea of going fully one or the other rather goofy myself.
Posted 1/22/16

OutSiN wrote:


WeeabooWarrior wrote:

Modern day liberals are no different than Stalinist's.

It's just the number of steps they take to achieve their goals takes longer, but the end game is the same.



Well... you're not wrong, I guess, most leftists movements do have similar end goals, to eliminate - either completely or as much as possible - the divisions created by class, gender and race; but the methods each of these movements plans to take to reach that end goal is what differentiates these groups.

Stalinists, Trotskists, Anarchists, Social-Democrats all have that one same end goal, but they pretty much hate each other because method is a big deal. And I think that, in your argument, when you say "It's just the number of steps they take to achieve their goals [...]" it really undermines the importance of the means with which to reach an end.

You could argue that this end goal in it of itself is not a good one (which seems to be what you were going for) or that there's currently no good way to reach that goal. But to claim that the differences in the ways through which each group reaches it is just wrong.


Meh, Stalin would just point a gun at your head.

Modern day liberal: Sue a person, to get a judge to get a cop to point a gun at your head.

Liberals and Communists are different in their methods, but also their cultural aspects as well. 1950's USSR would kill gays, Christians, feminists labeling some of them Nihilists.

The end goal of all these movements is the removal of traditional values and culture, whatever they be. Which in itself, is reckless.
Posted 1/22/16
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Posted 1/22/16
I consider being for the legalized murder of unborn children, also known as abortion, pretty extreme, so the number is quite high.

I'm a supercharged conservative libertarian so I'd consider most people liberal. lel
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Posted 1/22/16

TheCrushmaster wrote:

I consider being for the legalized murder of unborn children, also known as abortion, pretty extreme, so the number is quite high.

I'm a supercharged conservative libertarian so I'd consider most people liberal. lel


You raise an interesting point. Extremity has a subjective component to it. That's not to say that political extremism doesn't exist, but rather that perception of one's own position and those of others can be skewed. That's something that can happen to anyone, left or right.
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Posted 1/23/16
Compared to the GOP, there aren't that many extreme liberals.
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Posted 1/23/16

Werina wrote:

Dont know


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