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but you gotta think, these jobs never paid much to begin with. nothing that nothing vs a low check is better.. but tbh if the government forces this on us they'll be effected to. especially in stores. if people are left without jobs because of the decrease of jobs that just means we people wont have much money to spend. Welfare rates will go up but without the money being put out for things not returning because of these families/individuals with no money, money goes to waste for the money that went towards food that expired before being bought. causing them to bump up their prices to pay for those items. makes it harder for us and then again on them making the problem worse from doing that in the first place. besides that taxes is what gives us these welfare help. if jobs decrease, money does, meaning most probably wont be able to afford all of their taxes. it makes a mess on both ends and if they cant think of this before hand then i guess were gonna walk right into another depression state unless they give us more jobs when taking away these others!

The factories in China won't last.

Cost to run an automated factory is location independent: transportation costs, not labor cost, become the dominate determinate of factory location. The US and Europe will begin adopting automated plants and manufacture goods closer to point-of-sale.

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Nothing is ever free. You may be able to make labour cheaper but it isn't free. Those robots will need maintaining and if robots are doing that then those too will need maintaining. Components to make robots must come from somewhere and the at the beginning of the manufacturing process this mus be acquired.


Absolutely correct.

Moreover, the owners of the robots won't sit around and ignore a chance to make money. If you can't afford the products and services made by the robots, you're way out of luck.

Also remember from the business perspective, you don't switch from people to robots without an overall cost saving. They won't pay a whole bunch of money for engineers and fancy machines unless one way or another, that option is more cost-effective overall than paying assembly-line workers.


Agreed.

Has anyone seen the Japanese robot hotel?. If you have fifteen minutes to spare it's worth watching. I'd also like to note comments from the visitors. Many of them say they're likely never to return because although it's interesting, the atmosphere isn't what they'd like. I doubt machines will replace every facet of human work, and as more basic jobs are replaced with machinery, more complex jobs will open for humans.
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It would only work if robots did all the work and served all the people for free (or for very little). As you take up job openings, you end up with unemployed humans. Unless we want the government to shoulder everything, we need to fundamentally change how we view employment and work.
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This has become my favorite subject lately due to the weird paradox(?) it creates, robots/AI do most jobs=massive unemployment, nobody has money to buy the things the robots make=massive robot unemployment.
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It would only work if robots did all the work and served all the people for free (or for very little). As you take up job openings, you end up with unemployed humans. Unless we want the government to shoulder everything, we need to fundamentally change how we view employment and work.


This reminds me of Star Trek's Federation. It's obviously an imagined example of utopia in which no humans work, and currency is never exchanged. Everything on the planet is controlled digitally. I wonder (if) at what point something like that is possible, and how it would be feasible. There are obviously still jobs, but only in the form of volunteer work. I think it's important to note that in the show most illnesses have a cured, so the quality of life is much higher.

I don't think it's in our immediate future, but if humans survive to the far future, I think something akin to this is possible. Or you could even look to something like the societal structure in Psycho Pass. Your work is determined for you, but your living expenses are primarily paid for. You essentially work to live, because everything else is manufactured with little human aid.
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It's not like it's already hard enough to get jobs. This will be like the First Industrial Revolution. People will gather to break into industries and shops and destroy the AI. History repeating itself... again.
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Just don't piss'em off, or else this will happen (starting at 0:42).
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It'd boost the engineering, mechanical, programming, and electrical fields. I'm an electrician currently working in a FedEx. I'm surrounded by automated machinery. As much as people have to babysit what we've got, I have no doubt in my mind that other machines would be a major pain in the ass, at least, for a very long time.
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Irahabitual wrote:This has become my favorite subject lately due to the weird paradox(?) it creates, robots/AI do most jobs=massive unemployment, nobody has money to buy the things the robots make=massive robot unemployment.


Read Beggars in Spain, Beggars and Choosers & Beggars Ride

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We're all already in the Matrix, so it's okay if a Matrix happens within the Matrix. We just need to find Morpheus and aid him in finding the chosen one.

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I'm sure they'll never COMPLETELY replace humans. We're smart enough to know that'll mean a shortage in jobs.... Right...?
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So I guess all humans will become completely insignificant and then be killed by the technology they created.
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Tinamarie101 wrote:


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This is what asking for $15 an hour has done, lol.


I'm sure this would make shy people happy tho! Or with others with social anxiety!


Which is why I love these things; I can get in and get out while spending less time directly interacting with people.
I'm not too sure about those who actually want contact with another human being though...
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tkayt wrote:

Nothing is ever free. You may be able to make labour cheaper but it isn't free. Those robots will need maintaining and if robots are doing that then those too will need maintaining. Components to make robots must come from somewhere and the at the beginning of the manufacturing process this mus be acquired.


Absolutely correct.

Moreover, the owners of the robots won't sit around and ignore a chance to make money. If you can't afford the products and services made by the robots, you're way out of luck.

Also remember from the business perspective, you don't switch from people to robots without an overall cost saving. They won't pay a whole bunch of money for engineers and fancy machines unless one way or another, that option is more cost-effective overall than paying assembly-line workers.


Agreed.

Has anyone seen the Japanese robot hotel?. If you have fifteen minutes to spare it's worth watching. I'd also like to note comments from the visitors. Many of them say they're likely never to return because although it's interesting, the atmosphere isn't what they'd like. I doubt machines will replace every facet of human work, and as more basic jobs are replaced with machinery, more complex jobs will open for humans.


I find it funny that you mentioned this because I was just recently looking up information on the Huis Ten Bosch theme park where this hotel is located.
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I just looked it up. What a quaint park to be in Japan!
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