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Speaking of Aldo Adige/South Tyrol (which I had to look up, sorry autonomous province of North Italy - you learn something every day) I would never have considered that licensing and geoblocking could happen on the regional level Has this ever happened before? Also, being treated as if they're part of the German-speaking world must suck for the (according to Wikipedia) 25% of the people there who speak Italian.


I've seen Switzerland split into French-speaking and German-speaking regions, and Quebec included with French-speaking rights, rather than (or perhaps in addition to) Canadian.


And Belgium being excluded for Chaika (with german speaking regions) though only 0.7% of the population speaks german. 76K people from 11 millions. Yeah...

But now, seems we're (finally) included in French/English speaking regions. Yay.
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7 out 10 titles for me, not bad.
Although only a few look interesting to me.
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Yup though some say Funimation is coming to Europe this year - we shall see but ill believe it when i see it.


They've said on several occasions that they are looking to expand their available territories, but they don't actually seem to have done anything besides 'looking'. If it does I imagine they'll just start with the UK, but it's possible they will do the rest of Europe as well I guess... hopefully it happens this year but I won't hold my breath :c


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Not anymore. FUNimation are apparently unlikely to be offering Manga UK any of their titles any time soon.


Huh, that's dumb. I just don't understand their reasoning at all.
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Skode24 wrote:

Yup though some say Funimation is coming to Europe this year - we shall see but ill believe it when i see it.


They've said on several occasions that they are looking to expand their available territories, but they don't actually seem to have done anything besides 'looking'. If it does I imagine they'll just start with the UK, but it's possible they will do the rest of Europe as well I guess... hopefully it happens this year but I won't hold my breath :c


Buzz201 wrote:

Not anymore. FUNimation are apparently unlikely to be offering Manga UK any of their titles any time soon.


Huh, that's dumb. I just don't understand their reasoning at all.


Rampant speculation incoming:

As far as I remember, Funimation mentioned plans to expand outside the US last time they were on ANNcast (back in October) - it was only a throwaway line, though. Where they'll set up shop is up in the air, afaik. They could be planning to expand to latin america first, if the theory that they own pan-american rights to all of their titles is true, though that would involve setting up shop in a lot of countries at once and translating everything to spanish/portuguese (if they don't have subtitles in those languages already).

Considering how reluctant they've been about international anything so far, my bet is that they'll want to set up shop in the UK first (since it's probably the easiest) - and because their reply to 'why are you sitting on the license for X area' questions used to be 'we'll subcontract it to your local streaming site (but if all your area has is Crunchyroll, sucks to be you)' my guess is that if they've been keeping their titles away from Manga UK and Viewster (since last summer, right?), that's because they want to have sizable UK catalog once they launch.

One could hope they will launch in all the european territories they seem to hold rights to at once (UK, Ireland, Netherlands, Scandinavia, AKA 'English-speaking Europe'), but I don't have my hopes up. They're still very focused on dvd/BD sales, and aside from the UK none of those territories have much of an anime disc market that I know of. Plus, well, usually we can't have nice things. Not even Viewster has launched their wonky box-and-streaming deal here. I'd be more than willing to pay for a subscription if it was an option, though.
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Rampant speculation incoming:

As far as I remember, Funimation mentioned plans to expand outside the US last time they were on ANNcast (back in October) - it was only a throwaway line, though. Where they'll set up shop is up in the air, afaik. They could be planning to expand to latin america first, if the theory that they own pan-american rights to all of their titles is true, though that would involve setting up shop in a lot of countries at once and translating everything to spanish/portuguese (if they don't have subtitles in those languages already).

Considering how reluctant they've been about international anything so far, my bet is that they'll want to set up shop in the UK first (since it's probably the easiest) - and because their reply to 'why are you sitting on the license for X area' questions used to be 'we'll subcontract it to your local streaming site (but if all your area has is Crunchyroll, sucks to be you)' my guess is that if they've been keeping their titles away from Manga UK and Viewster (since last summer, right?), that's because they want to have sizable UK catalog once they launch.

One could hope they will launch in all the european territories they seem to hold rights to at once (UK, Ireland, Netherlands, Scandinavia, AKA 'English-speaking Europe'), but I don't have my hopes up. They're still very focused on dvd/BD sales, and aside from the UK none of those territories have much of an anime disc market that I know of. Plus, well, usually we can't have nice things. Not even Viewster has launched their wonky box-and-streaming deal here. I'd be more than willing to pay for a subscription if it was an option, though.


Yeah my thoughts were that they'd start with the UK since they technically already hold many of the rights, and they wouldn't have to translate the subtitles (which could cause further problems for FUNimation, since, as far as I know, they hard-sub their streams, rather than CR or Daisuki where there are numerous sub tracks that can be applied on top of the video stream).

As to your comment about 'keeping their titles away from Manga UK and Viewster' since last summer, I don't really know much about Manga UK but Viewster seems to have been getting MORE if anything; recent things from FUNimation that are available on Viewster are Akagami no Shirayuki-hime, Owari no Seraph, Joukamachi no Dandelion, Gangsta., Ninja Slayer from Animation, Arslan Senki, Chaos Dragon, Kekkai Sensen, Mikagura School Suite, Prison School etc. - all things licensed by FUNimation that have aired very recently :s
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Yeah my thoughts were that they'd start with the UK since they technically already hold many of the rights, and they wouldn't have to translate the subtitles (which could cause further problems for FUNimation, since, as far as I know, they hard-sub their streams, rather than CR or Daisuki where there are numerous sub tracks that can be applied on top of the video stream).

As to your comment about 'keeping their titles away from Manga UK and Viewster' since last summer, I don't really know much about Manga UK but Viewster seems to have been getting MORE if anything; recent things from FUNimation that are available on Viewster are Akagami no Shirayuki-hime, Owari no Seraph, Joukamachi no Dandelion, Gangsta., Ninja Slayer from Animation, Arslan Senki, Chaos Dragon, Kekkai Sensen, Mikagura School Suite, Prison School etc. - all things licensed by FUNimation that have aired very recently :s


Those titles are all Spring or Summer shows, though, nothing from the Fall season (except Owari no Seraph continuing from Spring), which could indicate that Funimation started planning an expansion around that time - though, thinking about it, Fall is ALSO when Viewster moved into the US market with their box thing, which would make Funimation see them as a competitor on the home turf (afaik, that's why they don't sublicense to Crunchyroll even in territories they aren't active in themselves - because they don't want to help anyone who's a competitor in the US). So, yeah, could mean nothing.

The hardsubs thing really does make starting in the UK a lot more plausible that going to latin america.
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Is-9 wrote:


TheDustyForest wrote:


Skode24 wrote:

Yup though some say Funimation is coming to Europe this year - we shall see but ill believe it when i see it.


They've said on several occasions that they are looking to expand their available territories, but they don't actually seem to have done anything besides 'looking'. If it does I imagine they'll just start with the UK, but it's possible they will do the rest of Europe as well I guess... hopefully it happens this year but I won't hold my breath :c


Buzz201 wrote:

Not anymore. FUNimation are apparently unlikely to be offering Manga UK any of their titles any time soon.


Huh, that's dumb. I just don't understand their reasoning at all.


Rampant speculation incoming:

As far as I remember, Funimation mentioned plans to expand outside the US last time they were on ANNcast (back in October) - it was only a throwaway line, though. Where they'll set up shop is up in the air, afaik. They could be planning to expand to latin america first, if the theory that they own pan-american rights to all of their titles is true, though that would involve setting up shop in a lot of countries at once and translating everything to spanish/portuguese (if they don't have subtitles in those languages already).

Considering how reluctant they've been about international anything so far, my bet is that they'll want to set up shop in the UK first (since it's probably the easiest) - and because their reply to 'why are you sitting on the license for X area' questions used to be 'we'll subcontract it to your local streaming site (but if all your area has is Crunchyroll, sucks to be you)' my guess is that if they've been keeping their titles away from Manga UK and Viewster (speaking of, did they have any UK simulcasts in the fall?), that's because they want to have sizable exclusive UK catalog once they launch.

One could hope they will launch in all the european territories they seem to hold rights to at once (UK, Ireland, Netherlands, Scandinavia, AKA 'English-speaking Europe'), but I don't have my hopes up. They're still very focused on dvd/BD sales, and aside from the UK none of those territories have much of an anime disc market that I know of. Plus, well, usually we can't have nice things. Not even Viewster has launched their wonky box-and-streaming deal here. I'd be more than willing to pay for a subscription if it was an option, though.


It's best to assume Funimation will start with the UK first. They used to distribute anime here in the UK a decade ago (examples of titles; Beck, Fullmetal Alchemist, Mushi-shi & Tenchi Muyo! Ryo-Ohki) so they may still have an idea on how they could handle it. The way that Funimation titles have been handled for simulcast is weird and inconsistent - Animax UK got a bunch of titles from one season altogether (Spring 2014 (with some Winter 2014 titles mixed in) ~ examples; D-Frag!, Dragonar Academy, Noragami, Ping Pong, Selector Infected Wixoss; and just recently Autumn 2015 ~ Attack on Titan Junior High, Heavy Object, Noragami Aragoto, Valkyrie Drive) while Viewster has a couple thanks to Anime Limited secretly picking them up (Blood Blockade Battlefront, Ninja Slayer, Prison School, Snow White) but some have randomly expired without telling anyone (Death Parade, Rolling Girls).

Yes Viewster did get some Autumn 2015 titles for the UK but due to their main focus on Omakase and North America they only added Anime Limited titles; Comet Lucifer and K: Missing Kings. As well as Sentai's A Chivalry of a Failed Knight for those outside of North America since Hulu isn't around. I think Andrew of Anime Limited told me (as well as others over on AUKN) that they won't be simulcasting much this season, but Viewster does have plans to announce a couple.

Either way I'm glad Crunchyroll is handling titles for UK much better than they did years ago and at least there's more 'Worldwide outside Asia' popping up for folks who live in areas where they can't get much anime. Honestly at this rate I only prefer Crunchyroll and Daisuki, but I wouldn't mind Funimation entering the UK market as a streaming site only.
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Even if Funimation were to expand in to Europe, they would probably start in the UK.
Which i would not really see as an actual expansion into Europe.

I'm not hating on the UK or anything, they're definitely a part of Europe.
But when it comes to this rumor of Funimation's supposed expansion, i would kinda see the UK
as more of an extension due to the fact that the UK also speaks English, there would be no language issues.

I'll only believe it when they actually start operating in other language territories.
And that is of course if this rumor is actually true, which i highly doubt.
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Even if Funimation were to expand in to Europe, they would probably start in the UK.
Which i would not really see as an actual expansion into Europe.

I'm not hating on the UK or anything, they're definitely a part of Europe.
But when it comes to this rumor of Funimation's supposed expansion, i would kinda see the UK
as more of an extension due to the fact that the UK also speaks English, there would be no language issues.

I'll only believe it when they actually start operating in other language territories.
And that is of course if this rumor is actually true, which i highly doubt.


It is arguably more than a rumour, since I'm pretty sure it actually says on the FAQ of FUNimation's website that they're looking into expanding into other regions, but as you say, I don't really expect them to expand anywhere that requires translation. If they do expand I imagine as you've said that they'd start in the UK. As someone said earlier, it's possible that they'd go on from there to Scandinavia (which I believe is included in some of the licenses that cross over from the US and Canada and is often perceived as 'english speaking') but I can't see them going into other language markets any time soon.
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How many more announcements does anyone think there will be, in total?
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It looks like there'll be 8 more new announcements.
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Only one interests me so far, but considering only two shows this season do and Crunchyroll already has one of them not bad.
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The hardsubs thing really does make starting in the UK a lot more plausible that going to latin america.


To add weight to the rumour fire, FUNi has announced a site redesign will switch titles over to soft subtitles...
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Is-9 wrote:

The hardsubs thing really does make starting in the UK a lot more plausible that going to latin america.


To add weight to the rumour fire, FUNi has announced a site redesign will switch titles over to soft subtitles...


Sounds interesting, hopefully this means they will expand in to mainland Europe soon and not just UK.
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Sounds interesting, hopefully this means they will expand in to mainland Europe soon and not just UK.


I think that's unlikely, part of the reason the UK makes sense is that FUNimation already has UK & Irish rights to the vast majority of their titles. They have Dutch rights for some, but not all, so that makes less sense.
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