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Posted 1/6/16

Balzack wrote:

I think it would set a poor precedent. With our stagnant literacy rates, we should be encouraging kids to read as many actual books as possible these days.


well how do you feel about Dr. Suess books being there? theyre not that educational
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deadscreen wrote:


Balzack wrote:

I think it would set a poor precedent. With our stagnant literacy rates, we should be encouraging kids to read as many actual books as possible these days.


well how do you feel about Dr. Suess books being there? theyre not that educational


That's a false equivalency, because the vast majority of manga is not geared towards children. Plus Dr. Seuss books absolutely are educational for what they set out to be; children's beginner books that teach kids to read more independently.

Maybe there are manga equivalent for 4 year olds, I don't really know. But even if there were, they wouldn't have any real impact on the education for English speaking children.
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Posted 1/6/16
Do they not? I know they sell captain underpants when I was little
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I do not think it would work. Manga are too difficult for kids to understand. Even the simplest looking ones have always some deeper meanings associated with the way our society works, or the way it should. Whenever I read a manga or watch an anime I had as a kid, I myself get frustrated at my previous lack of sensibility. Besides, you might not notice it anymore or forgot that you used to notice it, but Japanese's style of writing and American's are worlds apart. By reading manga's at an early age, these kids could get used to this style, and might even be drawn toward reading actual Japanese novels. This would, however, creates an issue once they reach high school and start writing essays. Also, I don't see government officials and board of educations accepting to use foreign books to teach children. It would lower their image as potential educators because the pubic would complain that they're not even smart enough to create their own study tools to teach their kids. I can already see the New York Times publishing a special review titled "ARE JAPAN'S SCHOOLS BETTER THAN OUR OWN?". Adding to it, these manga would compete with others domestic industries that published learning books for children. Here's another article for you, "JAPAN'S STEALING OUR JOBS." Moreover, it's too risky for a country too. What if those kids like these manga so much that they then all want to move to Japan then?. I'm pretty sure you can guess the third article. "WARNING! JAPAN IS STEALING OUR FUTURE." There're thousands of reasons why they'll never do it, but I guess the simplest one would be that like other books, the kids just won't read them.
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Yes, oh wise one.

Give me a break. You've read nothing but forum posts, and know little of my writing.


You're contradicting yourself.


How so? Please explain.

Perhaps you're catching something I'm not, and I'd love to learn from it. However, I don't feel this is the case.


Do you write your own forum posts?
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I do not think it would work. Manga are too difficult for kids to understand. Even the simplest looking ones have always some deeper meanings associated with the way our society works, or the way it should. Whenever I read a manga or watch an anime I had as a kid, I myself get frustrated at my previous lack of sensibility. Besides, you might not notice it anymore or forgot that you used to notice it, but Japanese's style of writing and American's are worlds apart. By reading manga's at an early age, these kids could get used to this style, and might even be drawn toward reading actual Japanese novels. This would, however, creates an issue once they reach high school and start writing essays. Also, I don't see government officials and board of educations accepting to use foreign books to teach children. It would lower their image as potential educators because the pubic would complain that they're not even smart enough to create their own study tools to teach their kids. I can already see the New York Times publishing a special review titled "ARE JAPAN'S SCHOOLS BETTER THAN OUR OWN?". Adding to it, these manga would compete with others domestic industries that published learning books for children. Here's another article for you, "JAPAN'S STEALING OUR JOBS." Moreover, it's too risky for a country too. What if those kids like these manga so much that they then all want to move to Japan then?. I'm pretty sure you can guess the third article. "WARNING! JAPAN IS STEALING OUR FUTURE." There're thousands of reasons why they'll never do it, but I guess the simplest one would be that like other books, the kids just won't read them.


the only good reason ive read for them not to is that mangas are read backwards. but other than that I'm surprised that some people oppose it. a lot of people on this site read manga and swear by it so why not have it available at school for free? so what if children (aged 4-12) flock to manga. I personally don't read them but it would be a good medium to get somebody to want to read. I tell you this much, give me (insert manga) over goosebumps
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Posted 1/7/16

deadscreen wrote:


DanteLove wrote:

I do not think it would work. Manga are too difficult for kids to understand. Even the simplest looking ones have always some deeper meanings associated with the way our society works, or the way it should. Whenever I read a manga or watch an anime I had as a kid, I myself get frustrated at my previous lack of sensibility. Besides, you might not notice it anymore or forgot that you used to notice it, but Japanese's style of writing and American's are worlds apart. By reading manga's at an early age, these kids could get used to this style, and might even be drawn toward reading actual Japanese novels. This would, however, creates an issue once they reach high school and start writing essays. Also, I don't see government officials and board of educations accepting to use foreign books to teach children. It would lower their image as potential educators because the pubic would complain that they're not even smart enough to create their own study tools to teach their kids. I can already see the New York Times publishing a special review titled "ARE JAPAN'S SCHOOLS BETTER THAN OUR OWN?". Adding to it, these manga would compete with others domestic industries that published learning books for children. Here's another article for you, "JAPAN'S STEALING OUR JOBS." Moreover, it's too risky for a country too. What if those kids like these manga so much that they then all want to move to Japan then?. I'm pretty sure you can guess the third article. "WARNING! JAPAN IS STEALING OUR FUTURE." There're thousands of reasons why they'll never do it, but I guess the simplest one would be that like other books, the kids just won't read them.


the only good reason ive read for them not to is that mangas are read backwards. but other than that I'm surprised that some people oppose it. a lot of people on this site read manga and swear by it so why not have it available at school for free? so what if children (aged 4-12) flock to manga. I personally don't read them but it would be a good medium to get somebody to want to read. I tell you this much, give me (insert manga) over goosebumps


Geez, didn't you read all the reasons I gave you? You want me to give you more? I feel like I'm writing to a dead screen. lol. And Goosebumps was the shit man. And how can you judge that something would be a good medium of learning when you've never used it in your own childhood, and don't even use it now? You need more data or anecdotes to make such claim. I'll tell you what. Experience with your own kids first, and if it works let me know.
Posted 1/8/16
I thought they already did...
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YES
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I think they should be included. The entire reason I got into manga is because I picked up Ultra Maniac at a book fair in the fifth grade. I doubt I would've gotten into it if they didn't have it at a book fair. :|
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I'm not sure how many of you frequent elementary school book fairs, but as one with much experience with the matter, I would like to shed some light on a few things.

1. All books currently found in the book fair are NOT necessarily "quality reading" books for kids. They sell a LOT of crap/junk books. Hell, they're not even necessarily books for kids!! I buy plenty of cookbooks at them as well!

2. Just because it has pictures doesn't mean it's junk reading.

3. To whomever seems to think school children "wouldn't understand it," I have a 10 year old who loves manga (age appropriate!!) No, not every kid is gonna be into it, but it's not like every adult is either. Should I mention he has the highest reading level and fastest reading speed in his class every year since kindergarten? Fuck yeah, parental pride.


Why they SHOULD have manga in school book fairs:

dat fuckin sweet sweet book fair price. <3
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Yes I think they should. It would help the children that have a hard time with reading I think. Make them want to read more. Book fairs are the greatest!!
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I am from the United Kingdom, so this is really not my place, but I believe we should.

My best friend is dyslexic, and he finds that Manga is a good way to read stories. My school have Manga versions of Shakespeare.

I am in support of manga in schools.
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Not really my place either as I'm from the UK, but I think we should.

There was a small section of manga in my school library and if it encourages kids to at least read something then they should have manga in schools.
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DanteLove wrote:

I do not think it would work. Manga are too difficult for kids to understand.


I read my very first manga, Yotsuba&!, when I was eight and I loved it! It was cute, fun, and after I got used to the different style it was a breeze to read and VERY easy to understand.


DanteLove wrote:

Even the simplest looking ones have always some deeper meanings associated with the way our society works, or the way it should.


I think this can hold true for almost any type of media, regardless of origin country. American comics often have a lot of social commentary, and no one bats an eye at a five year old reading those, so why should it be different for Japanese manga? It's good to encourage children to look for deeper meaning in things around them, as that kind of comprehension is what helps make active and intelligent readers.

If manga were to be introduced to book fairs, I think it goes without saying that it wouldn't be anything excessively sexual or violent, or with heavy subject matter. It'd all have to undergo the same process that the books in book fairs do, where the manga would have to be analyzed and read over to ensure that it is good for school-aged children. I still think it's a great idea! There's no real harm in it, other than a few angry parents at a PTA meeting but that's not a huge concern.
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