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Aside from the obscenely high/questionable college tuition's. The chance of getting a job closely related to your major seems just as bad. With that said.

Do you guys think college is still worth it?
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Depends on what you wanna do in life.It's a path, but it's not the only and or best path all the time.
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Yes, but don't bother with a liberal arts degree. Engineering and Computer Science degrees are worth their weight in gold.

Even if your job does not align with your major, you will still have a better job and a better chance at advancement with a degree.
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Dariamus wrote:

Yes, but don't bother with a liberal arts degree. Engineering and Computer Science degrees are worth their weight in gold.

Even if your job does not align with your major, you will still have a better job and a better chance at advancement with a degree.


What he said.

Still trying to find a job with my Comm degree.
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Mine was useless... I haven't been in a job that needed the degree (I have actually been working this whole time, vs many of those I graduated with)... This is good because going to university in the U.S. Is just another form of babysitting, keeping kids off the workforce, rather than clawing there way from the dirt. Now even those pieces of paper are even more useless because the market is flooded with children with MAs and JDs, who've never been expected to do something they don't wish to. I hated university because it inclueed a year which was supposed to teach what I thought was high school/middle school level knowledge. even after, we suffer from this sense that students can't be wrong as long as they appear to try. It shouldn't be for everyone. Why then did I look over doctoral theses which lacked a premise (online cut/paste affairs with some filler). Ive had other inside experience to show me that back then, it truly was becoming a diploma factory more than anything else. In the decade or so since, I wouldn't think things got much better; while I could play the politics of profs, I didn't have to contend with trigger warnings and safe spaces which prevent any attempt at discussion, because life is nasty, brutish, and short when you leave the ivory tower.

I guess it was nice for the experience; it was rare to be in a place where everyone else was new for a change, and hadn't been cliqued in yet. Think of people's complaints about friendships and dating, frequently they stem from a lack of opportunity to meet people outside their normal circle.

The only three true friends I still have, I met in university. There was kinda a selection bias in that my school was top ranked in its field at the time, (the jobs for that field tending to not be easy money) and not a party school, it was easier to find others there for love of knowledge.
So while most of what I learned in college was outside of class, the absense of those 3 from my life wouldn't be worth getting the tuition back.
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Yes, stay in school, don't be a fool.....word! Freaking Rapping Reggie, one of these days I swear I'll get even with him getting that garbage stuck in my head.

It really depends on what kind of college you go to and the courses you take. ANYTHING in the healthcare field is pretty much assured a job and is well worth the investment. I would avoid crap like philosophy. I've know so many kids who take that garbage just because they think it makes them sound intelligent but then they can't find a real job. I'm sure there's not a lot of jobs out there for jerks who read Ayn Rand unless they get really lucky and get a teaching job. Do your research on the school and find out what percentage they have of job placement. If they have a crappy percentage then find another school. Ask questions, look around and see which jobs are in demand and then match one to what you would love to do with your life. If you can afford it I'd definitely say to go to college. If you want to move up the pay ladder than an education is "usually" a must have. Not always, some people do work their way up or land really good jobs but you can't really count on that without an education. Also keep in mind costs and how freaking long it's going to take for you to pay your student loans back and the starting pay for your choice of career. These can all really hamper your initial earnings.

If I could start over I would either go to college straight out of High school instead of taking that year off. That year lasted waaaaayyyyy too long or I would just go get a trade skill, something like truck driving or something right off the bat and work hard at it so that by the time I hit mid life I'd have some security.

Without knowing you it's hard to say what is best for you. Who knows, you may have it in you to be a rock star or something or have some other talent that you dream of exploring. There are painters, manga artists, etc who do make a decent living. I would follow your heart and do whatever it is that you just really itch to do. If you want to write that book then start writing. If you dream of travelling then maybe be a travel agent or something. Follow your dreams and use whatever tools you need to make them a reality.

Good luck to you, I wish you the best.
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Dariamus wrote:

Yes, but don't bother with a liberal arts degree. Engineering and Computer Science degrees are worth their weight in gold.

Even if your job does not align with your major, you will still have a better job and a better chance at advancement with a degree.


Agreed, the contacts and certifications alone would make it worthwhile- unfortunately common core and terrible planning are definitely hurting the viability of a bs for many who are about to start university (proving the above point as derived from supply shortages).

But a BA does have some value, just not worth paying more than at a state school; if you want to learn, university access to research/reference materials are much greater than an individual's. Just go into Lexxisnexus, jstor, or just the university stacks and pick any random thing... If you find an obsession, that could be worth an MA. If you don't, than realize maybe a ba is a sufficient rubber stamp.
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Yamstarch wrote:


Dariamus wrote:

Yes, but don't bother with a liberal arts degree. Engineering and Computer Science degrees are worth their weight in gold.

Even if your job does not align with your major, you will still have a better job and a better chance at advancement with a degree.


What he said.

Still trying to find a job with my Comm degree.


The only problem with those degrees is that there are not very many jobs for them unfortunately. Then take into account the few who are truly qualified for those jobs at all and it's not a nice picture.
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I think so today, but not long ago wasn't sure.
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descloud wrote:

Aside from the obscenely high/questionable college tuition's. The chance of getting a job closely related to your major seems just as bad. With that said.

Do you guys think college is still worth it?


Yes if you have a plan on what you want to do afterwords with your degree. Also just having the degree opens doors that wouldn't be possible otherwise. There is good money to be made in the trades but it's back breaking labor and your body will be shot by the time your in your 40s. Get a degree set a goal
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I'm not sure yet since I'm still going to university. I'll find out at the end of it, I suppose.
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I suppose it depends. If you are just going for the sake of getting a degree, (no offense, but especially a liberal arts degree), then perhaps not. But a specialist degree will probably come in handy, not to mention the actual knowledge you acquire!

I received a BS in Computer Science, and although I know many programmers without a degree, I can see that have one can help in the industry. The guys without a degree typically taught themselves for like a decade or since they were young. I didn't program at all until college, and now I've got a pretty nice programming job and feel good about my abilities.


It was worth it to me.
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potentsativa wrote:

Depends on what you wanna do in life.It's a path, but it's not the only and or best path all the time.


So true! For me it's like that. I hope others would be able to find their own paths, too!
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