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Well since PV's thread got closed. Let's have another attempt at this discussion, because it had a good premise outside of the--rather ironically, manner of which it was presented. People jumped too quickly and lost sight of underlying argument.

I've never really thought much about my view of linguistics. The thing about words is they're really just a bunch of garble we use to convey ideas. The words we tend to denounce are those that are meant to provoke violence and threatening behavior.

Words lose their meaning the more they are used. For instance the word 'gay' and 'retarded'. Often young generations don't feel too bothered by such words because most have a vague understanding that people 'do not mean it'. This is probably a good mindset to have. The internet does help with some desensitizing. It's not so much the words themselves that matter as much as what is being emanated. Context is entirely relevant.

It's the difference between my boyfriend playfully calling me a "slut" and a random stranger.

I say all of this as someone very prone to cursing. I've been told it makes me seem unintelligent--a demonstration of a lack of vocabulary--or constantly reminded its unattractive and unladylike. I cannot help but view them as words and often "fuck" is exactly the word that escapes me when I get assassinated. That..and they make for amusing flirtations, teasing and often crude humor.

In certain context, well--I have no issue. It's best people do not take offense to words themselves--but the intentions. Best to communicate wisely, as to not be misinterpreted or misunderstood. Similarly, it's best to not misunderstand or even purposely misinterpret.

Not that there aren't better means of relaying ideas and thoughts in certain contexts or towards persons.

It's all semantics to me.



What's your view on the matter?
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It comes down to consideration for others , and social climate, in a nutshell.
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It's not so much the words themselves that matter as much as what is being emanated. Context is entirely relevant.

Thank you.


Also, I'm thinking it mostly stems from people not knowing the actual meaning of certain words. Once, in a fit of fright, while playing BF4 and being shot at and trying to get away with a teammate prone in front of me blocking my movement, I inadvertently let slip "Ah, get out the way you fucking nigger" and my friend got mad at me.

He apparently once got in trouble in elementary for using the word without knowing the meaning and ever since then he thought it was purely a racist term. Had to show him multiple definition sites to prove to him that it meant an ignorant.

So yah, whole case-in-point of that was to just say, a lot of people are used to words being used a certain way, and it becomes ingrained in their mnd that that word is either being used correctly when it is not, or the word means something a lot worse than what it actually means.

Of course, that's not the only reason. There are other variables such as people feeling the need to feel offended at everything that makes even words generally considered harmless as offensive.

As for cuss words, they're usually used out of anger, so people take offense to them for that I believe. Despite the fact that someone who cusses may have originally used the words only when angered, but in most cases the person is just used to using the word.
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Just dont bring anything like racism, insults towards their dead family members into it stuff like that
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I love to swear.

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It's not so much the words themselves that matter as much as what is being emanated. Context is entirely relevant.

Thank you.


Also, I'm thinking it mostly stems from people not knowing the actual meaning of certain words. Once, in a fit of fright, while playing BF4 and being shot at and trying to get away with a teammate prone in front of me blocking my movement, I inadvertently let slip "Ah, get out the way you fucking nigger" and my friend got mad at me.

He apparently once got in trouble in elementary for using the word without knowing the meaning and ever since then he thought it was purely a racist term. Had to show him multiple definition sites to prove to him that it meant an ignorant.

So yah, whole case-in-point of that was to just say, a lot of people are used to words being used a certain way, and it becomes ingrained in their mnd that that word is either being used correctly when it is not, or the word means something a lot worse than what it actually means.

Of course, that's not the only reason. There are other variables such as people feeling the need to feel offended at everything that makes even words generally considered harmless as offensive.

As for cuss words, they're usually used out of anger, so people take offense to them for that I believe. Despite the fact that someone who cusses may have originally used the words only when angered, but in most cases the person is just used to using the word.

Ooooooh you said the n word
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My thoughts are basically that it is a social thing. I try to be polite and only use profanity when I'm in company I know is comfortable with it.

On another note:

A lot of Christians believe the profanity is a sin, due to the terms "swear words" or "curse words." However, the places the Bible addresses those has little to do with the terms society deems appropriate. Not that cursing cannot be sinful. It can be sinful to say "Fuck you" to someone seriously, and yet not a sin to jokingly tell your friend "Fuck you." when everyone knows you're just joking around. It can be sinful to use profanity around those who find it bothersome, if you know they do and are doing it to bother them, but if you're just being a bit careless and say "shit" when you hurt your finger or something... there's really no sin. If you are cursing someone out, yeah, maybe there is a problem... however, if you were being just as hateful without the profanity, you're still doing something wrong, believe it or not.

It really just goes back the old saying: Treat others like you want to be treated. Treat others with love.

The real reason that Christians find the words "sinful" has to do with how society views them, and is no way tied to the Bible. Though you can find many verses that MIGHT address profanity, I'd challenge someone to find a verse that says that certain words should always be avoided. Always being the key.

So... feel free to "curse" away... just be nice about it. That's my thoughts at least.
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I think people who use said words to trigger people and say "I'm not bigoted against homosexuals!" are just shooting themselves in the foot. And this is not just saying it as a curse word, but using it in a way that can be legitimately construed as homophobic.


I think my problem with said person is because they're purposely being an inflammatory asshole on purpose, and I just can't help but be irate.
Posted 1/7/16 , edited 1/7/16
I swear when I'm angry, irritated, sad, and happy

I couldn't care less what people think of my swearing

As for derogatory words, I'll only say it if I feel you deserve it
Posted 1/7/16 , edited 1/7/16
I don't cuss very often or at all. This has nothing to do with me thinking it's wrong. It's more that as a kid growing up in a very religious house hold; it was a big no-no to do so. It's a habit that I've come to realize isn't always so bad. However I will cuss often online and in groups of people I know won't judge me for it. I also don't use them in certain situations where it may or may not be deemed appropriate.
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Well, I never swear, so...

I agree that it's important for people to understand the meaning behind it. Because I never swear or use overly profane language, if I called somebody a slut, a whore or a b**** as a joke (which will never actually happen), I doubt it would be taken very well. On the other hand, I have seen and heard such words used jokingly between groups of friends, and nobody took offense.

I don't really like such language, but I've become desensitized over the years. In elementary school, I was so innocent that I didn't even like to hear the Lord's name taken in vain (plus, I didn't know of more than two swear words--not until sixth grade, at least).
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