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Posted 1/7/16

megahobbit wrote:

Im down with fighting harassment on the web and I welcome programs and systems like this. Twitter is absolutely shit at handling harassment ("BUT MUH BLOCK BUTTON" says the guy whos never heard of a sock puppet account) and I think there is alot they could do better.


This.
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megahobbit wrote:

Im down with fighting harassment on the web and I welcome programs and systems like this. Twitter is absolutely shit at handling harassment ("BUT MUH BLOCK BUTTON" says the guy whos never heard of a sock puppet account) and I think there is alot they could do better.


Anything you can build and make publicly accessible I can break faster than you can patch.

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https://youtu.be/U7LZvOfHB00

And CR can't even add an ignore button. I'm old enough that I vote with my wallet so I don't support companies that go retarded like that.
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megahobbit wrote:

Im down with fighting harassment on the web and I welcome programs and systems like this. Twitter is absolutely shit at handling harassment ("BUT MUH BLOCK BUTTON" says the guy whos never heard of a sock puppet account) and I think there is alot they could do better.


A system like this will help in some cases, however it won't help in most cases and just do a bunch of mistakes.

I mean have you checked youtubes content ID system that is suppose to protect copyrighted content, it can't deem what's a copyright offend and what's a review or opinion about something.... As someone who have a degree in software development I can say that this won't really help since software is flawed by defalut


Well the thing here is I need to know more about what exactly the system entails seeing as how vague they were. For me I would propose an autoblock system for users. IE they can block out people who re-tweet certain people, follow certian people, use certain hashtags, etc from viewing there tweets. Also bans on twitter need to be based on IP addresses so people cannot create sock-puppets.
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Posted 1/7/16

megahobbit wrote:


Rujikin wrote:


megahobbit wrote:

Im down with fighting harassment on the web and I welcome programs and systems like this. Twitter is absolutely shit at handling harassment ("BUT MUH BLOCK BUTTON" says the guy whos never heard of a sock puppet account) and I think there is alot they could do better.


Anything you can build and make publicly accessible I can break faster than you can patch.

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Posted 1/7/16 , edited 1/7/16
The ignore button option would put this crowd's knickers in a bind. Then if a person gets offended by someone they hit "ignore" and they disappear from their view. What that would do is take away the effectiveness of bullying. If they make a sock puppet, no problem! Just ignore them all over again when they pop up. It has resistence to it because its the lassez faire notion of "free will" , justice by the people, and that sort of thinking, if there was an ignore button, things might become much less intriguing and less of a Jerry Springer sauciness, it'd be duller for some, or at least lower the flame-baiting/bait-snatching a bit.
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Won't work, won't even help. It will be flawed and widely abused much like automated copyright enforcement. In fact, it will be worse, copyright is reasonably well defined compared to the problem of differentiating harassment and bullying form harmless conversation and innocent ribbing. Nuance and context are not the forte of even the most advanced AI system.

The only 100% system is a white list were the user has to approve every one they want to communicate with and that only works as long is they are logged in and don't venture outside their curated safe zone.
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Posted 1/7/16

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Also, I know one person on here for sure who would HATE this post. Because there's no such thing as bullying you know? We've all got to deal with our own problems


Yes, people should deal with their own problems.

What's going to happen, instead, is that we're going to place a fluffy pillow around ourselves with such technology, and we're going to make it where no one can say anything offensive at all.

Then, when all seems right in the world, bullying will find a new way to flourish under these conditions, and people will be ill-equipped to deal with it.

Also, I never said bullying wasn't real, I said that mental and emotional bullying from one adult to another should not be punishable by law. I stand by that.

You can choose to twist my words all you want, but you're a prime example of what I'm talking about. You're so offended by my personal views that you choose to bring them up every chance you get. Reach down where your weak spine meets your chicken legs, and untwist those panties. How 'bout it?
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And then later in life when they get "bullied" for real what happens?
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Posted 1/7/16

megahobbit wrote:


TheOmegaForce70941 wrote:


megahobbit wrote:

Im down with fighting harassment on the web and I welcome programs and systems like this. Twitter is absolutely shit at handling harassment ("BUT MUH BLOCK BUTTON" says the guy whos never heard of a sock puppet account) and I think there is alot they could do better.


A system like this will help in some cases, however it won't help in most cases and just do a bunch of mistakes.

I mean have you checked youtubes content ID system that is suppose to protect copyrighted content, it can't deem what's a copyright offend and what's a review or opinion about something.... As someone who have a degree in software development I can say that this won't really help since software is flawed by defalut


Well the thing here is I need to know more about what exactly the system entails seeing as how vague they were. For me I would propose an autoblock system for users. IE they can block out people who re-tweet certain people, follow certian people, use certain hashtags, etc from viewing there tweets. Also bans on twitter need to be based on IP addresses so people cannot create sock-puppets.


The blocks you mentioned could be implemented but it would only serve to isolate people and accidentally block people.

IP Ban's do not work. They only stop DDOS/Spam attacks not individuals plus they accidentally block unintended victims since IP's are dynamic and change frequently. Every now and then most modems assign you a NEW ip address so you rotate out IP addresses. If you block an IP address on someone that knows nothing about computers it might block them for a month if they are with certain internet providers. Some providers use static IP addresses but that is becoming rarer. If they know much about computers they will know how to get a new IP address, heck I can get a new IP address with the click of a button.

If you are on a phone you can get a new IP address every time you connect to a different tower. If you are at a university you could possibly get the universities IP address blocked and stop thousands of people from accessing a program. I know I have been blocked from random websites when I was connecting through my university.
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And then later in life when they get "bullied" for real what happens?


They either toughen up or crumble under the stress and actually do go commit suicide, because they were never prepared for the real world.

Not that I advocate bullying, but you'd have as much luck getting rid of bullying altogether as you would getting rid of prejudice. It's simply not going to go away.

If you hide from it, it'll eventually find you, and you'll be eaten alive. We'd be better off teaching people how to deal with bullies. That's my thoughts, at least.
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Posted 1/7/16 , edited 1/7/16

megahobbit wrote:


TheOmegaForce70941 wrote:


megahobbit wrote:

Im down with fighting harassment on the web and I welcome programs and systems like this. Twitter is absolutely shit at handling harassment ("BUT MUH BLOCK BUTTON" says the guy whos never heard of a sock puppet account) and I think there is alot they could do better.


A system like this will help in some cases, however it won't help in most cases and just do a bunch of mistakes.

I mean have you checked youtubes content ID system that is suppose to protect copyrighted content, it can't deem what's a copyright offend and what's a review or opinion about something.... As someone who have a degree in software development I can say that this won't really help since software is flawed by defalut


Well the thing here is I need to know more about what exactly the system entails seeing as how vague they were. For me I would propose an autoblock system for users. IE they can block out people who re-tweet certain people, follow certian people, use certain hashtags, etc from viewing there tweets. Also bans on twitter need to be based on IP addresses so people cannot create sock-puppets.


Software isn't the solution since software is flawed and isn't solid like some (including you) would assume. A auto block system wouldn't help at all since it'll have one of two things, a extremely lax architectural detection system at which point it won't help anyone since it won't detect something. Or it'll have such a strict system where it'll consider everything offensive to the point where someone saying something about the weather could be considered offensive by the system. And even if that wasn't the case, then it wouldn't be able to tell what one individual would consider offensive and what someone completely else would consider offensive.

A IP block system of sorts would just be even more stupid then a auto system... Ever heard of a proxy, VPN (virtual private network) or tor? Their tools that let's you switch IP in addition to make you appear is if you were in another country. If I want then I can switch IP now in like 20sec. Even if that wasn't the case then there are ISP's out there that switch around their customers IP's, so if there was a IP block system then it would mean that what one customer did might block someone else out completely who haven't done a thing
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Posted 1/7/16

megahobbit wrote:


TheOmegaForce70941 wrote:


megahobbit wrote:

Im down with fighting harassment on the web and I welcome programs and systems like this. Twitter is absolutely shit at handling harassment ("BUT MUH BLOCK BUTTON" says the guy whos never heard of a sock puppet account) and I think there is alot they could do better.


A system like this will help in some cases, however it won't help in most cases and just do a bunch of mistakes.

I mean have you checked youtubes content ID system that is suppose to protect copyrighted content, it can't deem what's a copyright offend and what's a review or opinion about something.... As someone who have a degree in software development I can say that this won't really help since software is flawed by defalut


Well the thing here is I need to know more about what exactly the system entails seeing as how vague they were. For me I would propose an autoblock system for users. IE they can block out people who re-tweet certain people, follow certian people, use certain hashtags, etc from viewing there tweets. Also bans on twitter need to be based on IP addresses so people cannot create sock-puppets.


They weren't being vague, the system just doesn't exist yet. The video was about a hackathon, which is an event in which software developers come together to collaborate on software projects. The purpose, in this case, is to develop solutions that can help to reduce online bullying. The hackathon isn't over, so discussions and development are still ongoing.
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Posted 1/7/16

HolyDrumstick wrote:


VZ68 wrote:

And then later in life when they get "bullied" for real what happens?


They either toughen up or crumble under the stress and actually do go commit suicide, because they were never prepared for the real world.

Not that I advocate bullying, but you'd have as much luck getting rid of bullying altogether as you would getting rid of prejudice. It's simply not going to go away.

If you hide from it, it'll eventually find you, and you'll be eaten alive. We'd be better off teaching people how to deal with bullies. That's my thoughts, at least.


Exactly.

Posted 1/7/16 , edited 1/7/16

HolyDrumstick wrote:


VZ68 wrote:

And then later in life when they get "bullied" for real what happens?


They either toughen up or crumble under the stress and actually do go commit suicide, because they were never prepared for the real world.

Not that I advocate bullying, but you'd have as much luck getting rid of bullying altogether as you would getting rid of prejudice. It's simply not going to go away.

If you hide from it, it'll eventually find you, and you'll be eaten alive. We'd be better off teaching people how to deal with bullies. That's my thoughts, at least.


This is the kind of thinking that is fallacious: Its not that someone can't take it so much as they don't wish to be annoyed by the inconvenience of swatting mosquitos. Its quite silly from my point of view tbh. If something offends someone, they shouldn't be forced to endure hazing to prove to others they're tough.
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