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Well, I guess Hitler did say Asians were Honorary Aryans so I guess this is fine? Im personally indifferent towards the Reich and the Original Nazi's tbh. Dislike Americanized Neo-Nazi's though seeing as their weak minded disenfranchised youth who cant think for themselves so they have to blame their problems on the invisible Jewish supremacy, total fags.
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Morbidhanson wrote:Go ahead and rage. Even go on a rampage. Even if you kill 100 or 200 people, that act will never as historically significant as Hitler's accomplishments since it's just another mass shooting. Hitler was no ordinary person. His story was unique and his achievements were many. We wouldn't even be talking about him as badly if he led Germany to victory.


He was a nut. His own officers repeatedly tried to kill him, and hoped to leave the country open for deals with those accommodating British who were so willing to compromise at the beginning.
(Might have had something to do with his aberrant mood-swings going from glory to defeat to paranoia at the drop of a hat once the hard wartime work didn't go as promised after the rally speeches--Like when he at one point wanted Berlin to go out in a blaze of glory, by burning it down with the citizens still in it, rather than let the Russians get it.)

I'm assuming this is trolling, but it's so lacking in the general troll cliche's, or the adrenaline of campy hammerhead subtlety, that I'm taking the 1% chance that it's genuine nuttery. Or naivety/wishful historical-illiteracy, which is what the thread is about in the first place.
As for the latter, Rod Serling already covered it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIsm97HL0EU


I never thought I'd say this but Ejanss is right. It is absurb to entertain these ideas. The man isn't a victim or misunderstood. Unequivocably he destroyed Germany and led to it having to be split it in two for decades. He was a monster and a psychopath who rose to the top by exploiting a nation ravaged by a world war. And yes, he was quite paranoid and delusional. Mostly those that revere him think he's badass but he was just a loudmouth racist that decived a nation and murdered millions of people.

A related article: https://www.quora.com/Was-Hitler-misunderstood


I see nobody read the first two paragraphs of my post lol

Ah, well. I'm still unconvinced Hitler's story is one to throw into the scrapheap of general atrocities. His was one of an exceptional atrocity. Convincing a bunch of people to do those things takes extraordinary leadership. Just try imagining a person able to turn a nation into something similar today. Those people are few and far between. They must have certain qualities that make them so influential. No ordinary nut could have made it up there for so long.

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I can't really believe you're comparing the best tactician of his day and the first emperor of China to a man like Hitler. Did your momma feed you lead as a child?


I guess you were too busy giving him a blow job to notice the part of him forcing thousands to work themselves to death for his Great Wall of China. I suppose atrocities are only A-okay whenever it suits you. Apparently, what this all comes down to is you being mad that people praise your least favorite jackass, all while you worship other evil shits. Congrats, you are what you dislike.
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Ranwolf wrote:

I can't really believe you're comparing the best tactician of his day and the first emperor of China to a man like Hitler. Did your momma feed you lead as a child?


I guess you were too busy giving him a blow job to notice the part of him forcing thousands to work themselves to death for his Great Wall of China. I suppose atrocities are only A-okay whenever it suits you. Apparently, what this all comes down to is you being mad that people praise your least favorite jackass, all while you worship other evil shits. Congrats, you are what you dislike.


To be fair to the other two. One made a country and empire. while the other made an empire.
While I don't agree with their methods of doing things. I do respect their ability to created empires and a country. Hitler just made Germany stronger by attracting the right people to him with his charisma but fail because he was arrogant. Every time Germany could win a decisive fight.He got in the way of the generals decision. Hell, he even got in the way of approving the first world assault rifle. Sturmgewehr 44.
Because he keeps insisting Karabiner 98k is a better weapon.
If Sturmgewehr 44 was approved by D-day. History could have been way different. We should all be grateful Hitler wasn't a military genius or we would have been fuck.
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What the fu...
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He wasn't even Hindu, the morons -_-



Hitler was raised in a Catholic family. For every Mother Teresa or Pope John Paul II, there where also a number of crazies that came from that background. Just ask the people behind the Spanish Inquisition.
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he did not use the swastika as a symbol of good luck, he inverted it and turned it into a symbol of hatred that can get you suspended in most western elementary, middle, and high schools.
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I fucking love Retia.
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To be fair to the other two. One made a country and empire. while the other made an empire.
While I don't agree with their methods of doing things. I do respect their ability to created empires and a country. Hitler just made Germany stronger by attracting the right people to him with his charisma but fail because he was arrogant. Every time Germany could win a decisive fight.He got in the way of the generals decision. Hell, he even got in the way of approving the first world assault rifle. Sturmgewehr 44.
Because he keeps insisting Karabiner 98k is a better weapon.
If Sturmgewehr 44 was approved by D-day. History could have been way different. We should all be grateful Hitler wasn't a military genius or we would have been fuck.


I'm also glad that Hitler was an idiot in that regard.
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What the hell?
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What the hell?


Retia Adolf, a character from a game called Daiteikoku it's a space-themed parody of World War II.

Basically Hitler-Chan
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Thanks to this threat, I've found out that it is possible to buy a figurine of a gender swapped Hitler in a bikini.

Well done guys.
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In nearly every bookstore and curbside book vendor in Kathmandu or New Delhi, you can find copies of Hiter's manifesto, Mein Kampf. The books are arranged beside books about people generally regarded as great thinkers and leaders: Albert Einstein, Gandhi, Aung San Su Kyi, Abraham Lincoln, Nelson Mandela, Steve Jobs, and occasionally, Harry Potter.

Mein Kampf has been banned in Germany since World War II, and is only now being reshelved in German bookstores because its 70-year copyright expired last month. Even now that it's being republished, there are 3,500 annotations tacked onto the new edition, "to denounce Hitler's propaganda and lies," according to the book's publisher.

In Asia, though, Mein Kampf is treated like an old classic. It's long been a popular read for businessmen in India, sold alongside titles like Rich Dad Poor Dad, Who Moved My Cheese?, and the various motivational books by Donald Trump. It's not the only book of nefarious content revered in the region—works about Stalin and the Mafia are shelved near the business reads, too—but Mein Kampf is consistently among the most popular. The manifesto is consistently a bestseller on Amazon's Indian website; one Indian publishing company alone, Jaico, sold over 100,000 copies between 2000 and 2010.

Why is this? Is it that people in this part of the world are simply curious of a man so reviled elsewhere in the world? Maybe, but there's also a fair amount of genuine admiration for the infamous dictator, who is regarded quite differently in South Asia than in the West.

"I personally really admire him," said Keshav Bhattarai, a student at Kathmandu's Tribhuvan University, where he is specializing in conflict, peace and development studies. "His appeal was very good. Though he was cruel, if we look at history we'll find that he was one of the greatest leaders."

An unscientific survey I conducted of people on the streets in Kathmandu yielded similar results: People of all ages and educational backgrounds referred to Hitler as a "genius," an "enigmatic personality," and a "great leader." One man, in Kathmandu's Basantapur district, even told me "we [in Nepal] need a leader like Hitler."

One reason Hitler's reputation might not be fully realized in this corner of the world is simply due to the geographical and emotional distance between South Asia and the atrocities of World War II. These were horrors in a distant land—most people in South Asia had no real connection with the Holocaust and other atrocities, giving it less cultural impact.

The region also had their own problems to worry about at the time. World War II corresponded with the partition of India and Pakistan, where estimates put the number of deaths related to this struggle between 500,000 and one million. And for decades, countries in this region have been stuck in developmental swamps. When Nepal hasn't been under the blanket of armed insurgencies, it's been in the grip of corrupt political leaders. People in Nepal seem to be looking for a leader that can carry them out of developmental paralysis, no matter the cost.

In other words, there's an instinct not to throw baby Hitler out with the bathwater. Evil? Sure, but he lifted Germany into one of the world's most powerful countries in just a decade. And it's easier to narrow the focus onto Hitler's leadership qualities when even school curriculums glaze over his role in World War II.

"In our high schools, we learn about Hitler, but they don't teach us about the Holocaust," said Pramod Jaiswal, a Nepali university student studying at Jawaharlal Nehru University in New Delhi. "Teachers only teach how he was a good leader for German development. I had a friend from Belgium and I told her Hitler was good for Germany and she started crying. I was really shocked."

The kind of Hitler that exists in South Asia is almost a caricature—the strict, scowling man with the funny mustache.

"In India, we use the term [Hitler] to refer to people that are strict," said Jaiswal. "It isn't a heavy word. Our principal is a Hitler, my father is a Hitler, [Narendra] Modi is a Hitler."

Hitler movies, a Hitler café, a Hitler fashion store, and even Hitler ice cream cones have cropped up around India in the wake of this folkloric image of the dictator, seemingly without any connotation of Hitler as an exterminator of Jews. Films, like Hero Hitler in Love, humanize a sweet, funny version of Hitler. It's not the same glorification as neo-Nazis in the West—it's a complete rebranding of the man.

"We like Hitler because he was a Hindu," said one bookstore owner in New Delhi. "He was a vegetarian and used the Swastika as a symbol for good luck. He was one of us."

While Hitler may not have self-identified as Hindu per se (in fact, Hitler viewed British control over India as an exemplary model of how what he considered to be "superior races" should dominate over the "inferior races," and called Indian freedom fighters "Asiatic jugglers"), the Swastika symbol does have deep roots in this region. Western travelers to Asian countries are often surprised to find the symbol adorning places like religious temples, taxis, hotels, and business calendars, as a mark of good luck and cosmic order.

While Hitler's popularity may simply be a case of poor education for some, others believe there's a deliberate decision to recontextualize the guy, for political reasons.

"During the rise of Nazism throughout WWII, India was still ruled under the British Empire," explained Shiv Visvanathan, a political scientist and professor at Jindal Global University in Sonepat, India. "To many independence fighters 70 to 80 years ago, fascism was a counter to British imperialism. In the Nationalist movement people like Subash Bose and others felt that the fascist movement had possibilities." (Subash Chandra Bose was an Indian Nationalist who formed alliances with Nazi fascists during World War II to assist in Indian independence.)

Visvanathan also believes the ultra-nationalism of the Nazis echoes the current forms of ultra-nationalism that have been on the rise in India under Prime Minister Narendra Modhi's Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP).

"In many ways, there has always been this dream of making India a superpower," said Visvanathan, speaking of the relationship between Mein Kampf's popularity and the rise of nationalism in India. Prime Minister Modi's government has been accused of creating a national identity exclusive to Hindus and rewriting history to marginalize Muslims and other religious groups in the country.

"Mein Kampf gets pretty helpful in these movements," Visvanathan explained. "Now, instead of the Jew, you have the Muslim."

Of course, opinions about Hitler in South Asia vary from individual to individual, and not everyone is his biggest fan. But the popularity of the Hitler "brand" in the region—political or otherwise—suggests the man with the funny mustache is there to stay.


http://www.vice.com/read/hitler-is-a-rock-star-in-south-asia



"We like Hitler because he was a Hindu," said one bookstore owner in New Delhi. "He was a vegetarian and used the Swastika as a symbol for good luck. He was one of us."

"In India, we use the term [Hitler] to refer to people that are strict," said Jaiswal. "It isn't a heavy word. Our principal is a Hitler, my father is a Hitler, [Narendra] Modi is a Hitler."









Are you confusing the Tera symbol (reverse swastika) for the swastika? You do know the difference? One spins to clockwise the other is counterclockwise. One is the universal symbol for temple. Have you read "Mein Kamph" My Head? Back in the 80s it was required reading in high school. We had less censorship back then. We read it in series with Animal Farm and All Quiet on the Western Front. I believe these 3 books should be necessary reading.
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