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Post Reply Do you think some people have to suffer?
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Posted 1/10/16

Super_Shaydajin wrote:
Not what I said. The PARTICULAR answer you were looking for is super obvious and easy to find with like, 5 seconds of pondering. At least on how you phrased the question. If you had asked something not as dumb, like, "What is the intrinsic value of Suffering?" that would have been fine as it is a more broad open ended question that prompts discussion.

If there was no room for exploration or enlightenment in the topic then people wouldn't have shared their thoughts. The topic wouldn't have nearly the number of views or replies and it would have quickly fell off the main page. The only thing your post contributes is bumping the thread and negative energy. I would suggest not thinking so single minded and realize that the thread has already been appreciated.
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Shenseiken wrote:


Super_Shaydajin wrote:
Not what I said. The PARTICULAR answer you were looking for is super obvious and easy to find with like, 5 seconds of pondering. At least on how you phrased the question. If you had asked something not as dumb, like, "What is the intrinsic value of Suffering?" that would have been fine as it is a more broad open ended question that prompts discussion.

If there was no room for exploration or enlightenment in the topic then people wouldn't have shared their thoughts. The topic wouldn't have nearly the number of views or replies and it would have quickly fell off the main page. The only thing your post contributes is bumping the thread and negative energy. I would suggest not thinking so single minded and realize that the thread has already been appreciated.


Which was literally addressed in the first line of my initial post, or did you not read that?
Posted 1/10/16
I think every single person that creates a 'Your friend turns out to be...' topic should suffer for making me and other people suffer through their autistic topics
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Suffering happens because people mess up sometimes (and, on occasion, they mess up on purpose). It is not attributable purely to malice or selfishness, although these two qualities are undeniably causes of much suffering.

Humans are selfish creatures out of necessity. It's not always a bad thing, although there are benefits and negative consequences of selfishness. Selflessness is an extremely heightened moral standard by which to live, which is what makes it special. It ought not to be expected from everyone, and it would just be another ordinary trait if everyone exhibited it.
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Some people have to suffer to make people happy...because some awful people in this world are only happy when they're making others suffer. If they didn't inflict pain on others they would never enjoy themselves.
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I think the idea of necessary suffering depends on whether it is personal suffering or more profound, far-reaching suffering of a group.

If you view it in 'circles' of suffering, then the centre circles of individual suffering are unavoidable since melancholy and unpleasantness are parts of human nature and human life, which we can't completely avoid.

What I do deem avoidable is institutional suffering, of swathes of people - that I don't think can be justified by the argument of inevitability. Oftentimes it is beneficial to other groups or individuals, but i think for cynical reasons and not because it is part of a natural or intrinsic balance of suffering to happiness.

Either way, I don't hold with ideas that for some people to experience happiness or contentment other people necessarily must experience suffering, it seems like a BS form of excusing other people's misery.
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