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Post Reply Should schools require uniforms? How strict should enforcement be?
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I see this as a case by case situation. In schools that are financially well off and above the curve in education standards, yes. For schools that are having difficulty in the other two areas, a dress code is more appropriate. In those schools, that money is better off improving the education standards and well being of the students.
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Yes. It eliminates the need for parents and or children/teenagers to keep up with a weekly change of clothing. It also eliminates discrimination, what type of clothes you where, what style, etc. It also is a cheap way to save on having to buy more clothing. It also creates a formal atmosphere that teaches students to be prepared for the world of responsibility.

It also is a great way to communicate with other students because you are part of a single unit in some way shape or form, and not to mention that it cleans up most people who really aren't all that clean, yeah something like that.

However it won't stop students from going against how they where the uniform. Girls will always hike up there skirt above the knee, because they can, because of that thing.... what is it, yeah attention whoring, they learn at such a young age, they grow up so fast

Guys will always sag their god damn pants down because gravity can't hold me back!

Whatever, uniforms should be a must, especially at a young age. It will mold students into a more refined rebellious person. I mean yeah it would take away freedom and color from your day, but it's just life so deal with it, plenty of free time to live a colorful and meaningful life.

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My keyboard's running out of battery, so I'm just going to answer you in chronological order.

One, that's exactly why I don't think that they should be mandated. School is your last chance to be yourself in a mandatory public setting. I don't know how long it's been since you've been at school, or where you attended, but speaking for myself, a lot of people do not take school seriously, or as seriously as they need to. I didn't even know that there were students who took school seriously until I was put into the IB programme. Mandating a uniform is going to do what to change the general attitude about school? FFS, you have people making songs like this https://youtu.be/8xe6nLVXEC0 and people who don't give it a moment's second thought or critical thinking agree with it. And, I would bet the lottery that they agree with it because they don't like doing schoolwork more than they agree with the actual reason the guy made the song.

I think your heart's in the right place in wanting people to have a better opportunity at being educated, but changing the dress code is not going to change the work ethic of the kids attending. So, all in all, I agree with your attitude towards the subject in the first paragraph, but I disagree that the school dress code will change how kids view the value of knowledge.

Two, you are not there to make friends, but people do, and at their maturity level they are going to be more focused on that than their schoolwork. Once again, this is a mindset that teenagers in High School have. It's true that rules are in place, but it's not like a majority of the students follow them. When I was in school, I saw cell phones in the hallways, in bathrooms, on the courtyard, and even in the classroom during lessons. The problem is not the dress code, it's the dwindling work ethic.

Nothing really to say about the third and fourth paragraph that I haven't already said.

Regarding your second section,

I agree that the rules already in place need to be strict. The maturity level of kids these days have gone down the shitter. Hell, I was already saying that in high school, and now I think it's even worse than when I was in HS.. And I only graduated 3 years ago. So yah, enforcement really could use some work.

I disagree with the extra homework. What's the point of giving them more of something they are already going to half ass. Hell, doing the extra homework might just constitute as giving them regular homework because most kids already copy their regular homework from each other.

I'm more of a pro-detention and in more severe cases ISS where you are there to be bored for 8 hours and not doing your work would result in a failing grade for that assignment.
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Completely agree with the OP.

I also went to a school with a fairly strict dress code, and I didn't even really notice it.

And it's not like it stifled anything. Heck, everyone there still seemed like normal individuals. It did, however, eliminate unnecessary concerns regarding "fashion" and just allowed one to focus more easily on schoolwork.

Heck, it even did wonders to discourage ogling as well, as both the male and female uniforms were quite modest. I felt like people treated each other more like people.
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While I'm not against school uniforms, I prefer not to. I realize the benefits they have, and under the right conditions I'm all for it. My junior high school required uniforms, but my high school didn't. At the very least, if schools do have uniforms, there should be some reasonable leeway seeing that there's affordability, personality, and flexibility to consider. That's something that just doesn't exist in Japan as they make everybody wear their summer or winter uniforms based on what month it is disregarding the weather, and that girls don't have the option to wear pants like they do in America, which is a big problem when winter comes.
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In my country, all high schools have them, and many primary schools do. It's just normal to me. Enforcement varies from school to school. Some are picky about the colour of your headbands, height of your socks, etc, and others don't care.
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Yes, up until they leave school.

But I don't think they should be ridiculously strict like in my school, where you got inspected each morning to see if your shoes and socks were the right shade. And girls should be allowed trousers if they wish, that wasn't an option at my school
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School Uniforms arouses me. I wish I wore school uniforms.


This is essentially my answer.
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I happen to disagree with a good portion of you due to the simple fact of individuality

As much as I understand your reasoning, Uniforms (In Schools, given what they are) my eyes are ultimately redundant and for the most part, claim that uniforms change the habits to ones of order are really not valid.I have seen time and time again that people get frustrated with uniforms, and I feel that forcing someone into something that ultimately has no real meaning as it doesn't encourage good behaviour, but rather puts them off it. How many times have I heard complaints on how uncomfortable the uniforms are?

No one should be forced to do something that has no objective purpose. These are all superficial things and unless they actually do make the task directly easier or safer to accomplish, then they should be used

Also... it doesn't unite people if they are forced into it.


And the money appeal. No offensive, but this is pure rubbish. Are you all going to claim that basically people wear uniforms 24/7? Ultimately, that is unrealistic that people won't buy clothes to wear every single day outside of school, as well as PJs and other articles of clothing.This argument means nothing because people are people and people aren't going to generally sleep in uniform. No money will be saved and more will be spent.s

All these points of saying that it eliminates bullying isn't right I feel. It's simply another word for claiming conformity is better because people don't get bullied. Most people are bullied even with uniforms just for their physical features and personality already, and even small little differences in uniform. If people don't accept how they look, who should care, the people picking on others over appearance are just bloody superficial and petty. And I have seen countless times where teachers would mock students for their uniforms even.

People deserve their individuality when it comes to how they appear at least in school, and it would improve mood of students. Within reason. There also needs to be equipment for the classes that require them, but that's as far as I would go.
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The public high schools near me either have a dress code or a bland uniform code, usually khakis and a polo shirt of a specific color. It looks like everyone is going to work at a very, very boring store [Industrial Battery World, for instance] so I would think that kind of uniform is demoralizing. The charter schools and private schools tend to go towards boys in sports coats, or blazers, with the school neck tie and girls in a plaid skirt, or maybe a jumper, with a blazer or sweater that reprises the main color beneath the plaid, blouses tend to be white, but some pastel colors have slipped in. They look like they are going to school at a generic Catholic high school from the 1960s. I am not afraid that they will turn to anarchy in the streets. I come down against uniforms and in favor of liberal dress codes.
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I'm am glad we can agree.
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No. I do not miss having to wear poorly-insulated and hideous uniforms during the few scant years that I had to wear them.
If anything, I consider them to not be worth the hassel of searching around for uniforms that oftentimes proved to be overpriced.

Plus, if having to adjust to wearing uniforms at work and whatnot proves to be a travesty afterwards, the individuals in question are moronic and immature. No one should need years of "practice" to comply.
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All these points of saying that it eliminates bullying isn't right I feel. It's simply another word for claiming conformity is better because people don't get bullied. Most people are bullied even with uniforms just for their physical features and personality already, and even small little differences in uniform. If people don't accept how they look, who should care, the people picking on others over appearance are just bloody superficial and petty. And I have seen countless times where teachers would mock students for their uniforms even.

I also do not understand where people are linking bullying to clothes worn.. Bullies don't target people because of their fashion statements. They target them because they feel like they are more powerful than the person they are targeting. Making someone wear a uniform isn't going to protect them from bullying lmao. It's just going to change what the bully addresses.
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My experience is very simple, all my life I've been using school uniforms, I still do and I'm required until I finish highschool. I find no problem mainly because there's a lot of variety in my school's dresscode. For instance, you're allowed to use the school's skirt, the school's trousers (yes, I attend an all-girls school. Yes, girls use trousers), scarf with the school colours, turtle neck, blouse, cardigan, etc. I find my uniform very comfortable and stylish. I would not imagine myself attending school with jeans, sweatshirts, I will be very self-conscious about repeating outfits.
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Who cares about uniforms at least it won't end like this-
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