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Kids should be forced to wear straight jackets for extra safety.
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GrandMasterTime wrote:

Kids should be forced to wear straight jackets for extra safety.


Straitjackets would be a little too much lol

But some snotty brats definitely should be punished this way. Parents are too nice here nowadays and the kids step all over them.
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My school currently doesn't have uniforms, but due to people wearing inappropriate shirts and barely wearing their pants we are going to be forced to wear uniforms next year. I honestly don't think uniforms are too bad though, I'm personally fine with them as long as they bring people to dress correctly.
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Only girl schools and only if they wear those cute little anime girl school uniforms.

I can see reasons for school uniforms and reasons against them. Personally I don't like the reasons for them. They say it's to help everyone look the same, no jealousy issues, so kids feel like they belong etc, etc etc, BS. No point shielding children from everything they need to learn about the real world while they're supposed to be learning it. Uniforms aren't going to help kids feel like they belong. They'll either be in the in crowd or not. There's always going to be kids who have more, are more popular, better athletes etc and no uniform is going to keep some kids from being picked on. It will stifle individuality and their freedom of expression not to mention that shouldn't they know how to dress themselves by now? Most schools have some form of a dress code. No bling, no tattoo's no major piercings and you no shirts depicting sex, drugs and rock n' roll. Basically no fun. You have to wait till you're an adult to enjoy more freedom of expression but hey it's not all bad. Adults can't run around in a store screaming at the top of their lungs or tell people they're ugly and get away with it so there's still a lot of fun to be had as a kid.

Uniforms still won't change the fact that some kids will have nice cars, nicer homes, bigger wallets and all that. It's like putting a bandaid on a major head wound. How about talking about these issues at school and home instead of dressing them up, covering them up and hoping someone else will deal with it?
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

School Uniforms arouses me. I wish I wore school uniforms.


PV, what doesn't arouse you?

Answering OP:

Yes, I do. I've never gone without them, and honestly I think they instill discipline and prevent some bullying in our very materialistic and shallow society. If every child wears the same clothing, no one will be picked on for not wearing name brand, etc. Plus they can be super cute.
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i would have hated them in high school

but now i think they would have been cute. i love plaid skirts and button up shirts
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TheOriginalStraynge wrote:

Only girl schools and only if they wear those cute little anime girl school uniforms.

I can see reasons for school uniforms and reasons against them. Personally I don't like the reasons for them. They say it's to help everyone look the same, no jealousy issues, so kids feel like they belong etc, etc etc, BS. No point shielding children from everything they need to learn about the real world while they're supposed to be learning it. Uniforms aren't going to help kids feel like they belong. They'll either be in the in crowd or not. There's always going to be kids who have more, are more popular, better athletes etc and no uniform is going to keep some kids from being picked on. It will stifle individuality and their freedom of expression not to mention that shouldn't they know how to dress themselves by now? Most schools have some form of a dress code. No bling, no tattoo's no major piercings and you no shirts depicting sex, drugs and rock n' roll. Basically no fun. You have to wait till you're an adult to enjoy more freedom of expression but hey it's not all bad. Adults can't run around in a store screaming at the top of their lungs or tell people they're ugly and get away with it so there's still a lot of fun to be had as a kid.

Again, what's the point of school? Not dressing up and doing whatever you want, I'll tell you that. Any illusion that school is playtime needs to be dispelled.

Uniforms still won't change the fact that some kids will have nice cars, nicer homes, bigger wallets and all that. It's like putting a bandaid on a major head wound. How about talking about these issues at school and home instead of dressing them up, covering them up and hoping someone else will deal with it?


That's a little off-topic but I'll weigh in.

Uniforms won't solve social inequality, obviously. But what can? Education helps. To me, uniforms represent what it means to be in school. Work attire doesn't solve social inequality, either, but that's not the point. Discipline is. There's also the very real influence of clothes on our behavior. Go to work in a tailored suit and go to work in jeans and a T-shirt. There is a difference. People are more likely to be professional when they take the time to dress professionally. People will talk to you differently as well.

People here say uniforms don't do anything, but not many have been to school in Taiwan and Japan and Korea. I can just as easily say I see them do more good than harm, whereas kids under the loose school dress codes here, who get mohawks and wear basketball jerseys, only care about their own instant gratification.
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At that age I liked not having to think to hard about what to wear to school. Takes the pressure off of fitting in.
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I wear school uniform every day and it doesn't affect me
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They are difinitely a good thing. I always had one and don't want to think about not having one. Makes school less of a fashion parade and easier to fit in. Plus it does instill a sense of community and discipline. All schools should have them imo, unless you can't afford em because they are quite expensive.
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Morbidhanson wrote:

For people to get used to uniforms and dress codes, they have to grow up with them.

It doesn't make sense to start implementing this in high school, since that obviously wouldn't work. I'm talking about getting kids to wear uniforms for 12 years, starting from kindergarten. Although it's right to say that uniforms/dress codes do not lead directly to greater work ethic, I am of the opinion that it certainly helps. I'm talking about raising them to have a certain mindset, not to suddenly throw them into it by forcing them to wear an outfit. After 12 years of getting dressed a certain way in order to go to school, it should feel natural, like something that ought to be done. This is the kind of discipline I'm talking about. To go to school, you first wear the uniform. To go to work, you first put on your work attire. It's, first and foremost, about the task at hand rather than about how you should express yourself.

Imagine going to a dojo where kids wear whatever they want instead of a gi. Or going to a military boot camp where people wear whatever they feel like. Uniforms/dress codes create an air of purpose and solidarity that you don't get if everyone in a group is dressed differently. Appearance isn't everything, but it matters. Training people to put on a uniform every time they do something helps create a certain "mode" that they switch on when they go about doing that thing. The focus shifts from carefree individuality to something more serious.

I don't think uniforms are demeaning or impractical. Quite the opposite, actually. When I wear my uniforms and head out to get stuff done, I feel like I belong there and that I have a purpose. It's easier to take it easy and act casually when you dress casually. And a sensible dress code accounts for the temperature and classroom conditions, so comfort is of little issue.

I'll use martial arts as an example since that's what I have the most experience with. 8 years of having to put on your gi and belt and bow before heading into the dojo. You're there to learn the moves, just like how you go to school for academics. Sure, you can make friends and get along with your fellow practitioners, but that's not your reason for being there. Nobody wears a belt they aren't supposed to, and anyone below the level of purple belt wears a white gi. You listen to the instructor, do as you're told, and practice over and over to learn the moves. Afterward, you can remove your gi and you can be yourself after class. During class, though, there's really no purpose in trying to express yourself unless it's through your expression of the topic at hand. It's distracting and should not be encouraged.

There were a few classes before which the instructor told us NOT to wear our uniforms and to go in with our street clothes. He did this to make a point about discipline and how different class feels without the uniforms. It was far easier to be casual and it was harder to focus on learning even though nobody was talking about clothes.


No, I know what you're talking about. That's pretty much what dress uniforms are for in the armed services. Still, what I'm saying is that I don't know if the gains outbalance the losses. I'm just performing a utilitarian calculation and coming up with either a zero balance or a negative one where you're coming up positive. Maybe I'm overestimating peoples' ability to focus and learn because I spent at least half my primary/secondary career in advanced classes filled mostly with people who took school deadly seriously already, but I never really saw anything that uniforms would've added to.
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"What's important about education is making it look sexy as hell" - High School Student
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