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Posted 1/12/16

Dark_Alma wrote:


ISeaDreamer wrote:


Dark_Alma wrote:


ISeaDreamer wrote:

I'm really not sure what to say.

I have upon many friends in the US from studying there.

It's a real shame to have the leader of your country flat out lie to those who protect.


It is a shame foreigners talk as if they know enough about Obama to state it. I don't see Obama having lied much at all. Much less than Bush, our great warmongering president.


Pardon I did not mean to offend. I perceive the majority national figures this way.


Oh, I am not offended lol. I am just stating it.

Ex for me) I know a lot about Angela Merkel, however I do not have the knowledge to say that she is... A puppet, or a liar etc. It is just something that Americans do a lot that I dislike. It also spreads all over the world.

Trying to watch German news in America is a chore that I have to dedicate a good bit of time to. Unless the world news is different in Austria (def not in Germany! been there, done that), and they show everything the US does... then I don't think many foreigners (outside politicians) can really say that.


I think I understand where you are coming from. I'm suspicious of most people even more so of people representing the country. I agree and disagree with Obama. Austria's political system is very controversial at this point. I do not dislike Heinz nor do I like him. But we have a big issue with suicide here. Not much has been done to help with the younger generation that has been affected the strongest. I doubt Heinz is the blame for this entirely.
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I think I understand where you are coming from. I'm suspicious of most people even more so of people representing the country. I agree and disagree with Obama. Austria's political system is very controversial at this point. I do not dislike Heinz nor do I like him. But we have a big issue with suicide here. Not much has been done to help with the younger generation that has been affected the strongest. I doubt Heinz is the blame for this entirely.


Yea. A healthy dose of skepticism is always healthy.

What I was trying to get at is "If you do not have evidence to back up the *slander*, then it is best not to post it at all!"
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Posted 1/12/16

LoomyTheBrew wrote:

I'm surprised there was no thread for this. Discuss it here.

As we have come to know Obama, it was just a lot of hot air. I was wondering if he was actually delusional to the many of the problems he directly caused (Iran, SYRIA, the division of politics in the american (which he admitted is now worse than when he came in), the healthcare debacle, etc.) or if was just straight lying through his teeth. The amount of hypocrisy and ridiculousness in the speech was is too much to count. The image blow sums up Obama's words on the middle east and the state of our military. When Obama said we are stronger and safer than ever, this how all the Joints Chiefs looked during that statement because they know that is not true at all.

And lol, in 2012 he said al qaeda was on the run and was about to be defeated but now he said that al qaeda and ISIS are direct threats to our national security. Weird. And don't get me started on the political correctness stuff.

He's good at talking, but I wonder if he actually knows the problems facing America today. The only things I agreed with are the emphasis on medical research and the environmental/green energy stuff.

South Carolina governor gave a good response back.


Old white people look angry all the time, you may be reading into it to much

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Posted 1/13/16

AkitoMadaka wrote:


LoomyTheBrew wrote:

I'm surprised there was no thread for this. Discuss it here.

As we have come to know Obama, it was just a lot of hot air. I was wondering if he was actually delusional to the many of the problems he directly caused (Iran, SYRIA, the division of politics in the american (which he admitted is now worse than when he came in), the healthcare debacle, etc.) or if was just straight lying through his teeth. The amount of hypocrisy and ridiculousness in the speech was is too much to count. The image blow sums up Obama's words on the middle east and the state of our military. When Obama said we are stronger and safer than ever, this how all the Joints Chiefs looked during that statement because they know that is not true at all.

And lol, in 2012 he said al qaeda was on the run and was about to be defeated but now he said that al qaeda and ISIS are direct threats to our national security. Weird. And don't get me started on the political correctness stuff.

He's good at talking, but I wonder if he actually knows the problems facing America today. The only things I agreed with are the emphasis on medical research and the environmental/green energy stuff.

South Carolina governor gave a good response back.


Old white people look angry all the time, you may be reading into it to much

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No, they applauded for some of his points. Just not the one's they seem to have direct knowledge of.
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Posted 1/13/16
I can't say that I agree with everything Obama says, the TPP for one, but can't look at the one man and blame him for all of the problems.

The healthcare debacle was partly due to limitations as to what could be passed. The right wing nutcase congress forced his hand and limited the scope and abilities of a health care reform. They are partly at fault for this disaster, and their petty attitudes are a plague on the US.

Blaming Obama solely on the state of affairs is ludicrous. A huge portion of the US supported actions in the middle east, fighting terrorism, etc.. so even if they were misguided, it was what the people wanted.

At the end of the day he was a relatively lackluster President tbh, but you need to look at the circumstances surrounding his presidency and the issues of the system, he gave it a good shot, but was not the man the country needed to really help fix the downward spiral of the world.. still, the US could have done worse and elected Romney >_>
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Posted 1/13/16
It looked like Biden was trying not to cry for part of it
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Posted 1/13/16

FruitPunchSamurai987 wrote:

It looked like Biden was trying not to cry for part of it


You might do the same if your son also died of brain cancer.
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Posted 1/13/16
As much as I dislike Obama (and many others in power currently), most of us would take him over the idiots known as Clinton and Trump. Hindsight is 20/20 they say.
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Posted 1/13/16
The TPP is the worst f'n idea since NAFTA.
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