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Posted 1/14/16 , edited 1/14/16

Dariamus wrote:

It's not even a choice for me.

Group A: they've earned it.


^ This is the logical choice. Fuck the other guys or what if scenarios.

Value is subjective, but anyone with a decent amount of sense will go with choice A unless they're too tied down by "emotions" or immorality.
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Group B is every bit as important as Group A. You can't have day without night and people change. The world is never black and white, productive or not productive. What happens when a member of Group A gets a serious illness, mental illness becomes handicapped and the once productive person becomes a card carrying member of B through no fault of their own? What about the drug addict that sobers up, changes their ways and learns to be a productive member of society? I don't like those choose which one lives scenarios. It's not something I should decide. I'm nowhere near qualified enough to do so. If I did have to make a choice then it would be all or nothing. The ends don't justify the means and I could no more sacrifice someone so that someone else may live than I could just stand by and watch any group be annihilated. I'd rather die myself trying to save them all then allow that. We need people from all walks of life. Brilliance is always waiting just around the corner. Some people rise above their situations and others sink but the ocean is constantly flowing. Just because one sinks doesn't mean they can't learn to swim. It also doesn't mean a good swimmer won't just give up and sink to the bottom.
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Neither


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Being in group B myself i would choose neither

Why bother with life if you are going to die in the end.

If you are weird enough to bother with something so pointless i guess you should live but eh
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i choose group a coz of course you should think of yourself first how can you live in this world if your life has no direction
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dotsforlife wrote:


Dariamus wrote:

It's not even a choice for me.

Group A: they've earned it.


^ This is the logical choice. Fuck the other guys or what if scenarios.

Value is subjective, but anyone with a decent amount of sense will go with choice A unless they're too tied down by "emotions" or immorality.


But group b realizes everything you make for yourself will dissapear when you die so why bother.

Group A may work harder but Group B realizes how pointless everything is with a life with death.

I'm in group b myself because i could get a job and study but what good does all that do when i'm dead in 70 years time?

Not worth the effort when the outcome is the same and i can live a better life being in group b then i can A.
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i choose group a coz of course you should think of yourself first how can you live in this world if your life has no direction


Everyone's life has one direction.

Death

Doesn't matter if you do nothing or cure cancer you are all the same in the end

Bags of flesh that die and become worthless.

Group A just wastes there time trying to better there lives whilst Group B goes out and enjoys it realizing they are going to die.

Sure a nice job and direction is good for life but .....you die in the end so it's pointless to even get a job
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I know that all of us are gonna die and we dont know when gonna happen you should not just enjoy and do whatever you wanna do how can you live and enjoy if you dont have work and how can you find a better job if you cannot think of your future how can you make more money if your not serious in your life always enjoy and think that your gonna die
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Group A.

Think about it this way: You lose group A if you choose group B. None of that no-choosing sentimentality. In the scenario described, you need to choose, and this is the most effective choice.

You save the rest of the body by getting rid of the gangrenous limbs. It's a painful choice but a choice that must be made nonetheless. For me, it is less about quantity and more about quality.

I don't believe all humans are of equal value. Sure, you should be treated equally by the law for the sake of societal stability, but a person's actual value is something that person creates. It's not an innate value that makes all people equal. If you don't contribute, you're not valuable to the group. That's all. You are worth primarily what you are able to bring to the table, what sorts of benefits you can confer to the group for the greater good.
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Ryulightorb wrote:


dotsforlife wrote:


Dariamus wrote:

It's not even a choice for me.

Group A: they've earned it.


^ This is the logical choice. Fuck the other guys or what if scenarios.

Value is subjective, but anyone with a decent amount of sense will go with choice A unless they're too tied down by "emotions" or immorality.


But group b realizes everything you make for yourself will dissapear when you die so why bother.

Group A may work harder but Group B realizes how pointless everything is with a life with death.

I'm in group b myself because i could get a job and study but what good does all that do when i'm dead in 70 years time?

Not worth the effort when the outcome is the same and i can live a better life being in group b then i can A.


"Group B is large, but they only drag down the others. They have no wish to better themselves, get an education,
better the world in any way, or truly benefit society."

By OPs definition of Group B and your logic you're basically just wasting the oxygen for the rest of us. I'm not even going drag this any further lol...
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Posted 1/14/16 , edited 1/14/16

dotsforlife wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


dotsforlife wrote:


Dariamus wrote:

It's not even a choice for me.

Group A: they've earned it.


^ This is the logical choice. Fuck the other guys or what if scenarios.

Value is subjective, but anyone with a decent amount of sense will go with choice A unless they're too tied down by "emotions" or immorality.


But group b realizes everything you make for yourself will dissapear when you die so why bother.

Group A may work harder but Group B realizes how pointless everything is with a life with death.

I'm in group b myself because i could get a job and study but what good does all that do when i'm dead in 70 years time?

Not worth the effort when the outcome is the same and i can live a better life being in group b then i can A.


"Group B is large, but they only drag down the others. They have no wish to better themselves, get an education,
better the world in any way, or truly benefit society."

By OPs definition of Group B and your logic you're basically just wasting the oxygen for the rest of us. I'm not even going drag this any further lol...



We are all wasting oxygen for the rest of us Group A and B.

Group A wastes the oxygen of Group B and B does A.
Group A and B are the same the only difference is Group A is more productive which means very little since we all die in the end.

Everyone is a waste of oxygen to the rest of us me , you and everyone.

Group A is only surperior if you fool yourself into believing that they are better and deserve to live more then those who understand life should be about living and surviving.


I drag no one down but i don't work or study i just exist and honestly why should i work or study i will just die off like the rest of you.

To say group A is more important is a delusion at best maybe in the sense for humanity but in the end humanity means NOTHING.

I don't wish to benefit society i just want knowledge for myself and entertainment till i die.
I pity the fools that work a 9-5 job just to live because that is not what i call living that is called ....death in my opinion.

Alot of Group A are blind and foolish granted some of them are not like that but the majority of them i have met are.

Working 20 hours a day just to live a fancy life....what a waste :P


My life motto is you shouldn't study or work unless you want to do it otherwise it's just a waste of your precious time and you may as well be dead rotting away.

I do plan to get a job someday programming for 4-5 hours a day but that's about it because i don't like working when it bores me so i just refuse to do it.

My lifespan is short i don't have the time to mess around and work under some corporation wasting my precious time on this earth to do so would be delusional

That being said i might end up getting a job just for my girlfriend
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I know that all of us are gonna die and we dont know when gonna happen you should not just enjoy and do whatever you wanna do how can you live and enjoy if you dont have work and how can you find a better job if you cannot think of your future how can you make more money if your not serious in your life always enjoy and think that your gonna die



Work just gets in the way of enjoying life.

I prefer to make money how i do right now by doing practically nothing and just entertain myself.

I'm serious about my life and that is why i refuse to get a 9 to 5 job i have better things to be doing then working to help society.

If i get a job it will be a four hour a day job doing something of my own choice.

I see people wasting there lives away working all day and night and it makes me sad that someone would just throw there life away like that and ruin it.
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LOL. I expected to log in today seeing how bad of a person that I am. Glad that there's a few like minded people here.

I guess I'll leave this behind a of how I look at it.
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No dammit! Haven't you watched Fate Zero!

To save a life you must take a life, and it's just a vicious circle, the problem is never solved, it just keeps repeating, so in the end you aren't saving anyone when it comes down to Choosing A or B.

Learn from Kiritsugu man.
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I value effort more than life.
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