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Posted 1/15/16 , edited 2/18/16
I understand that I cannot relate fully because I am not in Canada myself, but I really don't understand everyone's super harsh responses... They've clearly taken care to explain that this is because anime is getting increasingly expensive to sponsor and that they don't want to have to change their membership fee. They are not 'singling out' Canada, if the currency troubles means they will start suffering a loss, CR will be less able to license so many series, and if it goes on things will only get worse. And to everyone complaining about not being able to afford a subscription, I'm sorry but the fee is alarmingly cheap. I watched almost 200 series on CR last year, all for a total of about 60 USD. If we think of each DVD box set as costing 40-50 USD (HD Blu-Rays costing more), if I watch even only 2 series, I'm already getting an awesome deal. I am not coming from a wealthy background or anything, but I mean if you put some money aside or save up in advance, CR membership is an amazing bargain. If you are too young to work or anything, why not ask for a membership for a Christmas present or something? I got my first year's membership in this way, and I've never once thought that I would stop the subscription because of how good value and high quality CR is as a service. CR is far nicer and more respectful to their users than other licensors and streaming services *cough*FUNimation*cough*, but they can't be expected to work at a loss if things out of their control take place in the economic climate of one of their biggest regions. Netflix has never had a permanent free option as far as I know, and yet look how big that is. CR is not being unreasonable here. Remember that the free trial still exists for those who want to 'try before they buy' so to speak. I do feel sorry for Canadian free users, but CR is not who your anger should be directed at.
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Posted 1/15/16 , edited 2/2/16
Why not just raise the price of premium? Seems backwards to me.
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Posted 1/15/16 , edited 2/18/16

TheDustyForest wrote:

I understand that I cannot relate fully because I am not in Canada myself, but I really don't understand everyone's super harsh responses... They've clearly taken care to explain that this is because anime is getting increasingly expensive to sponsor and that they don't want to have to change their membership fee. They are not 'singling out' Canada, if the currency troubles means they will start suffering a loss, CR will be less able to license so many series, and if it goes on things will only get worse. And to everyone complaining about not being able to afford a subscription, I'm sorry but the fee is alarmingly cheap. I watched almost 200 series on CR last year, all for a total of about 60 USD. If we think of each DVD box set as costing 40-50 USD (HD Blu-Rays costing more), if I watch even only 2 series, I'm already getting an awesome deal. I am not coming from a wealthy background or anything, but I mean if you put some money aside or save up in advance, CR membership is an amazing bargain. If you are too young to work or anything, why not ask for a membership for a Christmas present or something? I got my first year's membership in this way, and I've never once thought that I would stop the subscription because of how good value and high quality CR is as a service. CR is far nicer and more respectful to their users than other licensors and streaming services *cough*FUNimation*cough*, but they can't be expected to work at a loss if things out of their control take place in the economic climate of one of their biggest regions. Netflix has never had a permanent free option as far as I know, and yet look how big that is. CR is not being unreasonable here. Remember that the free trial still exists for those who want to 'try before they buy' so to speak. I do feel sorry for Canadian free users, but CR is not who your anger should be directed at.

I think it's important to read between the lines just a bit. Companies are not always 100% honest nor do they just hand out all the facts.

Anime just suddenly got more expensive to make and sponsor....yeah not likely. They've probably wanted to start making this kind of move for a long time now and Canada's currency is a testing ground to see how people will react. The goal long term is to cut out all free users. Not that I completely blame them for that, makes sense they'd want to get more money.

Look if you want to discuss the benefits of CR, that's not really necessary. That should be clear enough and the issue isn't the pros or cons of subscription services.

The issue is targeting the Canadian consumers. This comment is almost entirely offtopic.
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They are absolutely singling out Canada, though.

I appreciate that they don't want to raise the fee, but that's exactly what they should have done. The dollar has gone down, raise the price. That would be perfectly fair and is how everything else works when the dollar goes down.

But there's no reason a FREE user in Canada should be any different from a FREE user in any other country (licensing issues aside). They're both paying nothing, why are they not receiving the same treatment? Canada's subscribers aren't generating enough money because of the declining dollar, so the free users are stuck picking up the tab instead of just pricing the subscription at the actual exchange rate.

A free user in Canada and a free user in the US/UK/Aus/etc are both paying the same amount (none) to use Crunchyroll, but only one faces heavier restrictions because they happen to live in a location that's generating less money from subscribers right now. That is singling out. Plus, the fact that our dollar has gone down so much means that our economy kind of sucks right now which means that a lot of people are going to be stuck cutting back costs and being able to do what free users in any other country can do would have been a huge boon in a time when money is tight, so it feels like an extra kick in the pants.
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The problem I am having is why Canada only? Australia Dollar is also suffering to (0.68 USD per AUD, same as Canadian Dollar) but Australians are not being cut out.

I feel for the long term health for the company, older episode have to be blocked by a paywall due to rising use of adblock and with more and more anime coming out, more server space is required that got to be pay by some means.

It is a price of business and the only other way is the raise membership fees, which can backfire since premium members may not benefit from the increase cost and may stop instead. People such as me who only really watch newer episodes and not the old ones and normally don't re-watch any.

Or extend premium only for a longer period, but we need to crack down on illegal sites to be effective.
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I understand that I cannot relate fully because I am not in Canada myself, but I really don't understand everyone's super harsh responses...


It's because we're constantly getting jerked around by region blocking, and it gets grating after a while. Canadian Netflix doesn't have nearly as big a selection as American Netflix, we don't get Hulu at all, we haven't had access to Viz's Neon Alley since 2014 despite the claim that there's an announcement coming "soon", and we only just recently got Spotify, but not Pandora. Those are just a few examples. It's not the price that's the issue, because that's staying the same despite the falling dollar. (That's the only silver lining in this, to be honest.) The real problem is that this is just yet another example of Canada getting locked out of something, only this time it's worse because this is taking away privileges we already had. That's how I feel about it, anyway.

And yeah, I get the reasons why, but it just sucks to have something taken away like this when you thought it would always be there, you know? What if the lock doesn't come off when or if the dollar recovers?
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Posted 1/15/16 , edited 1/15/16
Well, that's a terrible start to the weekend.
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OH.MY.GOD.

When I first read this from gmail, I had to stop and reread it. TWICE. How am I going to finish all my unfinished , stashed for later to marathon watch during the break anime?

In the words of William Twinning/Solomon: YOU LEAVE ME NO CHOICE. I will have to go to some other site, as my parents will never agree to pay for the premium, and I don't have any way to pay myself. Youtube, it is........sobs uncontrollably in small dark, mushroom growing corner.
While sister stares frozen beside me...
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..........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................sobs.......................................................................................I will pretend that I never read that announcement.......................................................................................................
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asmalt wrote:


I understand that I cannot relate fully because I am not in Canada myself, but I really don't understand everyone's super harsh responses...


It's because we're constantly getting jerked around by region blocking, and it gets grating after a while. Canadian Netflix doesn't have nearly as big a selection as American Netflix, we don't get Hulu at all, we haven't had access to Viz's Neon Alley since 2014 despite the claim that there's an announcement coming "soon", and we only just recently got Spotify, but not Pandora. Those are just a few examples. It's not the price that's the issue, because that's staying the same despite the falling dollar. (That's the only silver lining in this, to be honest.) The real problem is that this is just yet another example of Canada getting locked out of something, only this time it's worse because this is taking away privileges we already had. That's how I feel about it, anyway.

And yeah, I get the reasons why, but it just sucks to have something taken away like this when you thought it would always be there, you know? What if the lock doesn't come off when or if the dollar recovers?


This pretty much sums it up for Canadian streaming for me too. Piracy here in Canada is insanely out of control and this just made it all the worse likely.
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It's disappointing to hear but I can understand this to some extent. the Canadian dollar has gone from about equal to the US dollar to about 70 cents US, and it's expected to hit as low as 50 cents US later this year. New government is trying to get things back on track but frankly they have a lot of damage from the previous governement to fix, so a recovery isn't expected for a few years at least.

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well this blows.
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Devils advocate point of view incoming.

I like how everyone is freaking out about free users getting shafted instead of the people who are actively helping maintain the service.

I think it's smart they did this instead of raising the price. What do they have to lose? A bunch of people who never paid a penny and more than likely run adblock? Oh no....

I've been a premium member ever since I learned of the sites existence, because I'm glad to support a service to helps bring anime to us, and at a very affordable price.

Better they piss off the freeloaders than the people actually supporting the site. Just saying.

I'm very grateful that they're doing it the way they are, not raising the prices shows they actually care about their paying customers, which is an extremely smart move, as the dollar is going to shit, but guess what, most people aren't getting wage increases.
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damn this sucks
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Posted 1/15/16 , edited 4/13/16

BFPurgatory wrote:

Devils advocate point of view incoming.

I like how everyone is freaking out about free users getting shafted instead of the people who are actively helping maintain the service.

I think it's smart they did this instead of raising the price. What do they have to lose? A bunch of people who never paid a penny? Oh no....

I've been a premium member ever since I learned of the sites existence, because I'm glad to support a service to helps bring anime to us, and at a very affordable price.

Better they piss off the freeloaders than the people actually supporting the site. Just saying.

I'm very grateful that they're doing it the way they are, not raising the prices shows they actually care about their paying customers, which is an extremely smart move, as the dollar is going to shit, but guess what, most people aren't getting wage increases.


As a Canadian user, I'm not bothered by this change either. We live in an era where legal online streaming is cheap and convenient. 7$/month is a crazy good deal, many anime watchers spend twice as much on junk food in a month. Seeing people acting like it's too expensive is laughable; back in the old days, the only option people had was to buy 40$ VHS tapes that might only contain three of four episodes.

But if understood correctly, now the weekly simulcasts will be available to free users? That actually sounds pretty sweet. It switches things from ''pay to be up to date with the current stuff'' to ''hey look, you can watch the new episodes for free! And, if you're willing to pay, you have access to a HUGE library of anime!''
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