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In 10 years (or whenever), when the license expires and Kyousougiga has lost what little fanbase it has, and re-licensing costs more than it makes, how will I watch it unless I have a physical copy? When Bandai went under, we lost things like Haruhi Suzumiya and Code Geass (I've heard Funi re-licensed Geass for NA, but that was a while ago, and I see no plans to bring it out). If I didn't have those on DVD, I wouldn't be able to watch them, short of learning Japanese and shipping over the un-subbed versions.


(waves box)

Hey, kids, wanna know what this is?

(waves it again)

Aren't you curious?

(waves it slowly under fans' noses) Hmmmm?....

Oh, this old thing--It's a Viz Maison Ikkoku DVD boxset Vol. 8. I bought it retail when it first came out on RightStuf, for $39.
I keep it next to my complete series of Animeigo Urusei Yatsura disks.

(On the anime shelf, right under my Disney Treasures tin of Dr. Syn, Alias the Scarecrow.)
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Just watching streams won't get you the full surround effects in a home theater setting.

I have a 60" Sony hooked up to a 7.1 surround system, and any little artifact on the screen I could totally notice because of the screen size.

The sound on a Blu-ray couldn't be compared. For example, the Love Live School Idol Movie is encoded in Dolby TrueHD. There aren't a lot of discs I have that are even in Dolby TrueHD (actually, that title is the ONLY one that auto-switches my system to that particular mode) and the sound is really awesome. Crystal clear with excellent front-back-side surround channel separation.

You can't do that with streams.

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Ejanss wrote:


Nogara-san wrote:


Ejanss wrote:
2) It may be a generational difference that the last two generations has had the movie-saturation of four premium cable channels, and Blockbuster DVD rentals, everywhere, and can't conceive that movies will ever "disappear"--Just turn on HBO, or dial up Netflix, they'll be there. Well, guess what:

(Probably because I remember the old days when the biggest movies showed on ABC Sunday night, and if all the other kids in class had caught the James Bond movie last night and you hadn't, you were screwed. If you hoped and were lucky, maybe it would show up again in a year or two, and you checked TV Guide every week to see what did.
When VHS came along, to our now more adult selves, a video fan's shelf was his CASTLE.)


Are you an old?


I'm older than 33, if that's what you mean.

("Ehh, you kids--I remember when you could only watch ONE episode of a TV series every week!")





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I mostly buy blu-rays for things I've already seen and I know I love. If I'm really into something, I don't mind supporting it with my money. If it's something I'm only mildly interested in seeing, I'll find alternative methods of watching it.
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I've recently sent my CDs off to a buy back company. I have them saved as MP3s. There was a time when I was worried about the sound quality and so on but really they were just clutter. Don't have so many DVDs but I always throw out the cases and use those storage wallets. That's one thing I like about digital - it takes up less room!
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In case of "Region: US & Canna only" or "Funimation buyout" Buy the Blu-Rays or burn them it is up to one.
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The only thing I buy physical copies of anymore are books and some movies. I don't buy CDs or anime/TV series. I think its much easier to just stream or if you really want to own it buy it online.
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I really like both physical and online

It's nice to see it online first before deciding to purchase the physical copy
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Heck, people thought that no one would ever write letters again after the telephone was invented. Or that on one would still be reading words after TV and then TV movies were invented. But here we are spamming internet forums with alphanumeric characters.

For small things like music, e-mails, things that take up very little amounts of diskspace it's very easy to maintain take care of those digitally. But then there are the monsters like shows, movies, pc games, etc.

Streaming is a service, and it doesn't give you all the benefits of ownership. It's like renting a book from the library versus buying your own copy (both physical and digital books). Streaming gives you access to watch certain content at certain times but those specific content and those specific times are subject to change at the will of the service provider.

Streaming requires internet access, which itself is another service. If your ISP decides to throttle or prevent your streaming access, your feelings about "I can watch it free online anytime" will change dramatically. Internet bandwidth is not unlimited. If you're on a roadtrip, airtrip, boattrip with limited internet you'll want a physical copy to watch your favorite stuff. If you're in the military (especially when deployed) and want to watch anime, you'll most likely be doing so with a physical copy. Right now I'm waiting for Viz to release Gundam Seed because I forgot buy myself a copy before Bandai disappeared. I'm also waiting for them to release Akito (it's been years).

I purchased the digital edition of Halo 5. I have no clue why but it took almost 24 hours to download and used up 60GB of internet bandwidth (of my monthly 300 GB quota courtesy of Cox). If I had purchased the physical copy of the game I would've been able to play almost instantly and saved myself from using up 20% of my monthly bandwidth.

If you wanted to binge-watch a long series (~50 episodes) in either 720p or 1080p you'd probably use up ~20 GB via streaming. Now if you wanted to re-watch it you'd have to use another 20 GB. With a physical disk you don't have to repeatedly use up your bandwidth.

If a publisher decides to withdraw from the US market, it will take all of the streams with it. A very good example is Bandai. Aniplex is a good candidate for the next to withdraw (in my opinion they're still fence-sitting the US market). It's even worse when a shit company re-licenses the series and then never delivers (Viz earns my ire for doing this with a lot of series). When this happens you'll wish you had a physical disk version.

Another big difference sometimes overlooked is the video quality. Just like mp3 vs wav formats, the videos you watch online (to save bandwidth) are highly compressed. People that want to see their show/movie in the highest quality possible will have to get the disc version where there's much less compression and the closest anyone will get to RAW quality. Unless internet speeds makes major breakthroughs AND service providers remove bandwidth limits, this will always be a problem. As anime increases in resolution (probably soon they will be natively rendered in 1080, but eventually 4K & 8K) they'll continue to use up more and more bandwidth. And this is just video quality. Sound quality will probably become an issue in the future (most things are rendered in 2CH stereo streaming, but disks will let you listen to 7.1 surround).

Even though simulcasting has changed the way anime is consumed in the US and other outside-japan markets, physical media still has some several niche markets and applications where it is very practical. The pricing for physical media though does stink badly, and I only buy disks for series that I know I will enjoy which means I've definitely watched it several times already via the internet.
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Yes I do buy physical copies of movies and stuff. After all, what happens when the internet goes down? Having physical copies of shows has proven incredibly helpful to me. If I am on a road trip I can still enjoy my anime or tv shows. Plus you do not have to worry about buffering or slow downs or anything like that. Of course having the physical medium you do have to care for the discs which can get annoying. Another thing to keep in mind is that most companies make the majority of their money selling physical discs and stuff.

As for music, there are more than enough devices and the file sizes are small enough that I no longer buy the disc. Not when the first thing that I will do when I get home is rip the disc so I can put the music on an MP3 player. I can fit far more songs onto a small media device than I can movies. So it is easier for me to justify not buying CDs.
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Perhaps this should be a new topic.

But I was wondering where to buy non-bootlegged copies of anime. For example, Danmachi. I can stream it on Crunchyroll, but when trying to buy it its either from Germany Amazon for around $30 for just two episodes (of 13), or something non region locked like this:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01ER0NOH4?m=A1WIX682VLV2RS&ref_=v_sp_detail_page

Which seems suspiciously like it might be bootlegged - I read somewhere that if its not region locked its because its bootlegged so there is no point in buying it as no money will reach the original creators.

Is there any way to verify if something is legit? Anyone got any knowledge on this 'blg world'? (is it short for BootLeG world? Google search finds many use the BLG mnemonic)
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For DVDs and blue rays, well I still find owning physical copies worth it, at least for my favorite shows and things I am bound to rewatch. Streaming websites (including this one) can sometimes be glitchy and other sites have annoying popups and commericials. When I want to marathon a decent series or watch a movie without the never ending advertisements or freezes, physical media is still the way to go.

Also, with services like Netflix, one week a show you want to watch is on there and the next week BAM, disappears due to some stupid licensing change.

With Steam however, I no longer purchase physical copies of any video games from the Xbox One/PS4 generation since I can find pretty much all of the titles for digital download and often for less money. Nintendo is still the only exception due to console exclusive titles.
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I do buy CDs and Blu-ray still.

Blu-ray beats streaming for reliability. Shows get pulled from streaming sites all the time, so you never know when you'll lose access to a show you like. The viewing experience is better too, easier to skip around without buffering, no playback timeouts if you pause and step away for a little bit, rock-solid video and sound quality from the first second to the last.

As for CDs, I like listening to them in my car, beats trying to mess around with my phone while driving. Then I can just rip them for home use.

CD prices usually seem pretty reasonable, not much different than buying mp3, in some cases strangely cheaper. Anime can still be pretty expensive on Blu-ray, so I tend to buy pretty conservatively unless there are deals to be had.
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