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I bought a Crunchyroll subscription to support anime and hope that the industry understands that we love anime as much as, if not more than Japan.

But 40 freaking dollars for a regular DVD?!! For 1 season or 22-26 episodes!!! Jesus Christ! My favorite animes that I want to buy are over 30-40 dollars and the blu-rays are nearly 90! Does Japan not understand the exchange rate or how poor we are!? I was able to buy the entire 3 Stooges DVD collection for $20 that contained their entire career!

I really hope Crunchyroll figures out a way to lower it to affordable prices. I would buy an entire season for $30 at most.


That's honestly a ridiculous expectation. Anime blurays/DVDs are going to cost more than something mainstream like the three stooges because it is a niche market. $37-$45 seems to be kind of the norm for 11-13 episodes of anime at this point (for the bare bones releases). Be glad every show isn't being priced like pony canyon's shows, which are going for $70 for 4 episodes (which is still significantly better than the Japanese prices much of the time). If you're not willing to pay over $30 for a season of anime, I don't think you are ever going to own much anime, unfortunately.
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Nothing "promotes" piracy. Many people who pirate are going to pirate regardless of whether or not there is a high price tag.
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http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/01/16-1/video-your-lie-in-april-english-dub-cast-announced

as much as I love your lie in april that price is absurd, a lot of us will not be able to afford it , over 200 bucks for a 22 ep anime? no thanks
is jacking the prices up on a anime like this going to affect the anime industry?
how can a company lower the price and still make a profit?


Have not read the rest of the 4 pages of Comments. I'm sure they're lovely.


However..do not, do not, do not, DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT buy anything from Aniplex.


It's a company that overprices for their product's with the business plan of "Selling two copies for $200 is easier than selling 200 for $2 bucks"
Knowing a few dorks will buy something overpriced is incentive enough for them to only cater to those few.
Before you buy an Anime for such a price, make sure you review your options.

Ask yourself if the Anime is currently being streamed on Crunchyroll. If it's got an English dub, if you care for that dub, and if it's a good dub. Find out how well the translation is. Crunchyroll is my current standard for Subtitles. it's not the greatest, they don't sub their openings and can sometimes make a few mistakes. But they're generally good. If you've ever seen the Subtitle work of Katanagatari....my god it was horrible. I"m talking about the absolute worst Subtitling you've ever seen.


Aniplex makes bad dub's, overprices the shows they get, and barely have a hand in creating the shows they're making. They aim only for the big-money titles of a season. Kill la Kill, Fate/Zero, Bakamonogatari.

ANIPLEX DOESN'T CARE FOR YOUR BUSINESS, SO GO SUPPORT ANOTHER COMPANY(Such as Crunchyroll, I heard they're about to jump right on into the scene with their own dubs and licenses)

Besides, you can get like, so many anime for that 200 bucks. I got all 50 episodes of Eureka Seven for $32, Trigun for $14, FLCL for $20, Samurai Champloo for $20. That's HOW MUCH content for.....like $86 bucks?
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It's pricing can't help... your paying double rate of popular western shows. Game of Thrones has always been £25 for a new season on RELEASE. Some anime ask that just for a quarter of a seasons episodes.

It's why I stopped buying DVDs for most anime, I don't take the piracy route when I can stream on sites like CR instead but I've an understanding to why people would choose too. Worst of all bad DVD sales often kill a shows chances of further seasons through no fault of the anime or studio which did all the work creating it.


It's a reason why the Anime Industry crashed in America a few years back. Japan noticed how well the Dubing companies did, got mad that they were underpricing dvd's, and then came in to price them higher while cutting out a middle man.


In the end, they failed to realize THAT HOLLYWOOD CHOOSES THE PRICE WE PAY, NOT JAPAN. GTFO OF HERE AND LET US TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES.


Ai'nt nobody going to spend $200 when we have Hollywood CREATING AN ENDLESS STREAM OF ENTERTAINMENT(regardless of quality) ON THE CHEAP. Japan has Anime and Drama's...we got a massive movie industry.


They can't win.
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Once I bought an Anime DVD and to get one season of about 14 episodes for some 40€ was kind of pricey. However when I found out the subs was more accurate and had a better flow on the pirated version I had watched previously I decided to never buy an overpriced anime DVD again. It just isn't worth it.
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I'd totally buy BDs of anime I liked, if the pricing was reasonable.
ofc, Japanese BDs and then DLing subs for them. Don't like the way English officialsubs look.


But you're never going to get me to buy BDs at current pricing.
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animegirl2222 wrote:

Nothing "promotes" piracy. Many people who pirate are going to pirate regardless of whether or not there is a high price tag.


True but i think that steam sort of killed pirating for pc games, or at the very least lowered it a lot.
The key to destroy pirating is to easy the access to what is being pirated and offer the product at a reasonable price, even with seasonal sales.

I personally would like to be able to "officially" download my anime instead of having a physical copy. It's 2016 and they can't expect everyone to like having their house filled with boxes, when you can just use cloud systems or lot's of hard disks.
Physical copies are for collectors and not everyone watching anime is one.
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There are times when i buy an anime DVD. Here's what i do: i compare prices. If it's cheap i'll buy it. However if no other shop has that DVD, i have no choice but to buy it regardless the price.

I usually wait the complete editions (series that has 24-26+ episodes) to come out to save money. Of course that takes time.

And yes, Aniplex products are overpriced. For example, Kill La Kill Part 1 of 3 priced 50 €:s+ and only has 7-8 episodes. Why?!
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I think if you make something prohibitively expensive or over priced, people are going to turn piracy and knock offs more regularly. But still people are going to steal, no matter what it just makes occurence higher.
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Skode24 wrote:

It's pricing can't help... your paying double rate of popular western shows. Game of Thrones has always been £25 for a new season on RELEASE. Some anime ask that just for a quarter of a seasons episodes.

It's why I stopped buying DVDs for most anime, I don't take the piracy route when I can stream on sites like CR instead but I've an understanding to why people would choose too. Worst of all bad DVD sales often kill a shows chances of further seasons through no fault of the anime or studio which did all the work creating it.


It's a reason why the Anime Industry crashed in America a few years back. Japan noticed how well the Dubing companies did, got mad that they were underpricing dvd's, and then came in to price them higher while cutting out a middle man.


In the end, they failed to realize THAT HOLLYWOOD CHOOSES THE PRICE WE PAY, NOT JAPAN. GTFO OF HERE AND LET US TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES.


Ai'nt nobody going to spend $200 when we have Hollywood CREATING AN ENDLESS STREAM OF ENTERTAINMENT(regardless of quality) ON THE CHEAP. Japan has Anime and Drama's...we got a massive movie industry.


They can't win.


You should stop your scapegoating and you irrational boosting of American oligopoly. The few big American cartoon companies are protecting their oligopoly by banning anime and manga from being sold in America so American citizen will buy American cartoons. They even allow anime to be viewed online for free so anime companies will go bankrupt. They spread trolls to blame the bankruptcy of anime industries on the citizen for watching free anime online while hiding the fact that they cannot buy anime from small companies. That is why Hollywood movies cannot be viewed online for free with the possible exception of those that is outdated.
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redokami wrote:

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/01/16-1/video-your-lie-in-april-english-dub-cast-announced

as much as I love your lie in april that price is absurd, a lot of us will not be able to afford it , over 200 bucks for a 22 ep anime? no thanks
is jacking the prices up on a anime like this going to affect the anime industry?
how can a company lower the price and still make a profit?


Have not read the rest of the 4 pages of Comments. I'm sure they're lovely.


However..do not, do not, do not, DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT buy anything from Aniplex.


It's a company that overprices for their product's with the business plan of "Selling two copies for $200 is easier than selling 200 for $2 bucks"
Knowing a few dorks will buy something overpriced is incentive enough for them to only cater to those few.
Before you buy an Anime for such a price, make sure you review your options.

Ask yourself if the Anime is currently being streamed on Crunchyroll. If it's got an English dub, if you care for that dub, and if it's a good dub. Find out how well the translation is. Crunchyroll is my current standard for Subtitles. it's not the greatest, they don't sub their openings and can sometimes make a few mistakes. But they're generally good. If you've ever seen the Subtitle work of Katanagatari....my god it was horrible. I"m talking about the absolute worst Subtitling you've ever seen.


Aniplex makes bad dub's, overprices the shows they get, and barely have a hand in creating the shows they're making. They aim only for the big-money titles of a season. Kill la Kill, Fate/Zero, Bakamonogatari.

ANIPLEX DOESN'T CARE FOR YOUR BUSINESS, SO GO SUPPORT ANOTHER COMPANY(Such as Crunchyroll, I heard they're about to jump right on into the scene with their own dubs and licenses)

Besides, you can get like, so many anime for that 200 bucks. I got all 50 episodes of Eureka Seven for $32, Trigun for $14, FLCL for $20, Samurai Champloo for $20. That's HOW MUCH content for.....like $86 bucks?



Pony Canyon is worse. Much worse.
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Felstalker wrote:
It's a reason why the Anime Industry crashed in America a few years back. Japan noticed how well the Dubing companies did, got mad that they were underpricing dvd's, and then came in to price them higher while cutting out a middle man.


It's part of the reason. The other part was whiny parents who didn't pay attention to what they were buying.

But yes, having lived through that era the prices became quite ridiculous. And it's disturbing to see the anime industry moving to make the same mistake again. They try to sell to the Western market in the same way they sell in their home market. Throw in some limited edition goodies, flashy packaging, stuff die-hard fans in Japan eat up. But in the West by and large people just want the discs. Heck, half the time I toss out the shell and store the discs in a CD wallet.
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Felstalker wrote:
It's a reason why the Anime Industry crashed in America a few years back. Japan noticed how well the Dubing companies did, got mad that they were underpricing dvd's, and then came in to price them higher while cutting out a middle man.


It's part of the reason. The other part was whiny parents who didn't pay attention to what they were buying.

But yes, having lived through that era the prices became quite ridiculous. And it's disturbing to see the anime industry moving to make the same mistake again. They try to sell to the Western market in the same way they sell in their home market. Throw in some limited edition goodies, flashy packaging, stuff die-hard fans in Japan eat up. But in the West by and large people just want the discs. Heck, half the time I toss out the shell and store the discs in a CD wallet.



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Can't even count on demand to help it. It's inflexible.
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