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Posted 8/5/16
If you guys think that is bad, take a look at the Ange Vierge Initial Product Limited Edition DVD and Blu Ray preorder in Japan. They are asking 13650 yen for DVD and 14500 yen for Blu Ray for 4 episodes plus extras, and from what I have seen the extras don't add up to those prices. To top it off, part 2 and 3 are the same prices, so to complete your collection of Ange Vierge Season 1 on Blu Ray in Japanese, you would have to fork over 43,500 yen!

If this gets a western release, I hope it is a bit cheaper then that.
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Posted 8/5/16

domvina wrote:


Felstalker wrote:
It's a reason why the Anime Industry crashed in America a few years back. Japan noticed how well the Dubing companies did, got mad that they were underpricing dvd's, and then came in to price them higher while cutting out a middle man.


It's part of the reason. The other part was whiny parents who didn't pay attention to what they were buying.

But yes, having lived through that era the prices became quite ridiculous. And it's disturbing to see the anime industry moving to make the same mistake again. They try to sell to the Western market in the same way they sell in their home market. Throw in some limited edition goodies, flashy packaging, stuff die-hard fans in Japan eat up. But in the West by and large people just want the discs. Heck, half the time I toss out the shell and store the discs in a CD wallet.



There are plenty of good deal releases flying around right now. Sentai, Funimation, Vizmedia, Crunchyroll looks to join them soon.


If you want a good anime for a good price, just look at anime that isn't by Aniplex.


HELL, let alone the poor poor quality for Aniplex dub'ing.

Go and youtube the Aniplex trailer for Madoka Magica and compare it to the trailer for Princess Jellyfish. Which show looks awesome there? JUST LOOK AT THEM TRAILERS.
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Posted 8/5/16
no cause people will ALWAYS find any excuse to not pay for things.
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Posted 11/8/16
Humm? Is having a high price on anime promoting piracy?

I am pretty sure it doesn't help.
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Posted 11/9/16
well..... having high prices deters people from buying dvds because they are obviously too expensive, so in a way, it could push some people to try and get it cheaper whether legal or illegal. I for one wouldn't mind buying the dvds if they weren't so damn expensive.
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Lack of access promotes it more than price imo. Look at the number of anime that never gets an official release in your country of residence. Here in Ireland we get even less than America does and America doesn't get everything.

I have willing paid £100 for a bluray CE and will continue to do so. Hell... I even pay Aniplex prices for the Monogatari series which is usually around £20-£25 per bluray with 12 currently on my shelf... The stuff I do darkside for is all the stuff I'd never ever see otherwise.
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Posted 11/16/16
Nope. Anime merch has always been pricey. And it's unlikely that pirates would buy the DVDs in the first place.
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Posted 9/3/17

BlueOni wrote:


bobland wrote:

lol

Comparing piracy to auto theft has been so overused already. It's been proven to be a really shitty comparison.

You can't compare digital information to a tangible vehicle. One can be duplicated at minimal to no cost while the other cannot.

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The price of anime is easily promoting piracy. You can't watch streams offline, so if you want to watch a show where the internet isn't as reliable its either buying a disc or downloading a file. When a series is $120 for the disc, the choice is easy.


I just don't get why this comparison is drawn.

By their very nature vehicles and anime are different sorts of goods. Cars are rivalrous (using one means someone else can't use it) and excludable (you can keep people from using a car). Anime is neither. You can enjoy anime without depriving others of simultaneous, equivalent enjoyment, and you can't really prevent anime from being reproduced and distributed infinitely anymore since the technology for doing these things is so pervasive, inexpensive, and user-friendly.


The Car analogy would make more sense if you were talking about stealing the blueprints to make a porche and start building them in your own factory right next to the porsche factory. And then handed them out for cost of materials plus labor. Anime is just so cheap to reproduce it's basically free.

Though, I'd prefer to compare the situation to generic and brand name medications. The brand paid to the research the drug and are trying to compensate for their costs. Later, after the patent runs out and another company like kirkland can start making the drug for a fraction of the cost. The brand may still be charging insanely high amounts, comparatively, but they use that to help fund new research. Aniplex makes and publishes anime. Even if they Dub it it's still their brand. Funimation doesn't make anything. They just dub the anime they got contracts from and make their own "generic" version.

Piracy is similar to making your own generic version w/o a contract beforehand. I wonder what the FDA would have to say about that....
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Posted 9/3/17 , edited 9/3/17
As far as answering the question myself... I'd have to say yes. Ask people in the anime community how much they'd be willing to pay per episode of anime and I'd figure that 60% would say ~$5. 10% would say $0 10% would say any price and 20% would say $10. Let's say that if any group is forced to pay more than what they think it's worth have no other choice but to pirate the show if they desire to watch it.

In this situation, 12 episode anime box set sells for
$60 10% pirate the show. If it goes on sale instead for $120 70% pirate the show and $121 it's 90%.

Conversely, see it from the company's perspective:
$60 and 10% don't buy, $120 and 70% don't buy, $121 and 90% don't buy, finally $1000 and still that 10% purchase it.

Say that out of 100 people who are interested in the 12 episode anime:
$60 = $5,400 : $120 = $3,600 : $121 = $1,210 : $1,000 = $10,000

The real question is, should the companies care if people who won't buy the product any way pirate their dvd's? Not if they are targeting that %10 that will pay almost any price. According to my fake #'s of course.

The next question would be, "Does having easy access to pirated videos make the money you are willing to pay per episode of anime go down?" And personally, I'd answer no because I wouldn't be willing pay more per episode of Blue Bloods, Heros, esc than I would Anime.
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Posted 9/3/17 , edited 9/3/17
To answer : Yes .. Example : "The Fate/Apocrypha rental DVD volume 1 to be released on September 27. The volume will contain the first two episodes"

And since its initial release ive seen speculation on reddit that this will cost somewhere in between 50-70$ .... and honestly even 20$ would be to much for 2 eps ... i mean cmon ... with 50-70$ i could buy 4 seasons of GoT and all season of Breaking Bad on BD! If this does not say: pls go and pirate idk what ! And they could ask 50-70$ for 2 eps...yeah good luck ! But since its Fate this will have sales !
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Posted 9/3/17
People naturally want to support anime, so i would say it does support legal streaming.
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Posted 9/3/17
Thread necromancy should be a crime
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Posted 9/4/17
In a way I can kind of understand the expensive price tag, but $200 for one series is absurd. I remember dropping $120 on the complete collection of Haruhi Suzumiya and I only did that because I absolutely love the series. For collectors of anime, I don't see this as possible to be spending $100-$200 per series.

If anything, this promotes legal streaming. You watch the anime you like and you're supporting the companies.
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Posted 9/5/17
yeah we pirate so we don't have to pay for dvds
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Posted 9/6/17
Yo dang, if a dvd costs that much, just skip the dvd entirely.
C'mon guys, set up a donation fund or something. I'll just throw my $200 directly at the creator. At least that way I know my cash is actually reaching them!
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