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Posted 1/19/16

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ILuvCats11 wrote:


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ILuvCats11 wrote:

Telling someone probably wont help bullying if you really want to do something about it become stronger and beat the shit out of the bullies thats pretty much the best way to go.


and then you yourself get punished and not them, ok lol


Well you can tell the school they were bullying you and its just self defense. Even if you get in trouble the feeling of revenge will make you feel better plus its unlikely you'll get bullied again, those are pretty much better then an hour detention.


Lmao, that won't work everywhere I tell you that. Because if they truly love fucking with you, you winning one fight won't change shit. Depending on the area, they'll leave you alone, jump you, or bring in some gunplay.


Get a knife.
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Is revenge really worth it though? While it may feel good to get revenge, it doesn't make it right. Actions have consequences. I point you to a wonderful series known as Hell Girl that asks this question about revenge. The first episode is even about bullying. If you seek to "get back" at the bully what does that achieve? A short lived feeling of satisfaction? Well you basically brought yourself down to the bully's level. Yes, telling an authority figure probably won''t do any good either as they may turn a blind eye. How to deal with a bully issue can be quite the problem as it really gets you no where. You take action=you get into trouble. You tell authority=they turned a blind eye. Authority figures I think should take better action toward bullying and parents need to handle their kids better. Whatever happened to discipline?


Yes, yes it is. It made it right with me and billions before me. When you have a bully problem you fight the bully then they go to an easier target, its the laws of nature. You achieve the bullying to stop. There are no imaginary levels that you speak of.
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TrickedMJ wrote:
Lmao, that won't work everywhere I tell you that. Because if they truly love fucking with you, you winning one fight won't change shit. Depending on the area, they'll leave you alone, jump you, or bring in some gunplay.


You need to read Ender's Game.

You don't simply "win" a fight. You destroy your enemies' will to fuck with you ever again.

And from experience, you don't necessarily HAVE to even win to do that. You just have to let them KNOW that if they fuck with you, they better be prepared for a fight... every single time. Because at the end of the day, they want an easy target.

And, yeah, that's from experience, too.
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Oh I know it's your opinion. I just was trying to come from another aspect. I hope I didn't sound rude in my post. I saw something that said instead of taking away their phones take away the chargers. They will panic as their phone's battery drains slowly away.
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Bullying is not an easy thing to deal with.

Even if the bullied person tries to stand up for themselves, someone new always seems to come along.

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Oh I know it's your opinion. I just was trying to come from another aspect. I hope I didn't sound rude in my post. I saw something that said instead of taking away their phones take away the chargers. They will panic as their phone's battery drains slowly away.


Its fine you didn't really sound rude, and I saw that to it actually seems like a good idea but it's much better to take the kids phone away because unless their grounded they'll find some other way to charge their phone up (e.g going to a friends house and using their phone charger(

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It all starts at home.
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It's also amusing when everyone knows that you and someone else is going to fight after school, and the other dude is talking smack to everyone, then you both show up the next day and his face looks like hamburger and you don't even appear to have been in a fight at all.

A lot of strange looks.

However, after that happened to me, not a single person even tried to fuck with me. YMMV
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TrickedMJ wrote:
Lmao, that won't work everywhere I tell you that. Because if they truly love fucking with you, you winning one fight won't change shit. Depending on the area, they'll leave you alone, jump you, or bring in some gunplay.


You need to read Ender's Game.

You don't simply "win" a fight. You destroy your enemies' will to fuck with you ever again.

And from experience, you don't necessarily HAVE to even win to do that. You just have to let them KNOW that if they fuck with you, they better be prepared for a fight... every single time. Because at the end of the day, they want an easy target.

And, yeah, that's from experience, too.


I get what you're saying, but there's people out there who don't mind having to fight every single time, though of course there aren't too many of those. Usually for me it only takes one fight for a person to know they can't fuck with me anymore, I don't think I've ever fought the same person multiple times.
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Bullies get away because people don't fight back. Yeah it has influenced this generation, we're writing about it.
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I get what you're saying, but there's people out there who don't mind having to fight every single time, though of course there aren't too many of those. Usually for me it only takes one fight for a person to know they can't fuck with me anymore, I don't think I've ever fought the same person multiple times.


I've actually lost a fight with a bully, and he kept trying to bully me. He stopped after realizing that me losing the fight wasn't going to stop me from fighting him again.

In the end, bullies go for easy targets. They don't want to have to fight someone every time the want to act like a prick. If they did, there'd be a LOT more fights in the world.

Actually observe bullies for a while, remember back to all the ones you've ever known. How often do they actually fuck with people that fight back? How often do they actually fight?

I've known a LOT of tough guys who love fighting.... the thing is, most of them aren't bullies... and those who ARE bullies don't bully people that may be able to kick their ass.
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I'm trying to teach my nephew this but I can't explain why people like to pick on the weak without sounding cruel .
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TrickedMJ wrote:
I get what you're saying, but there's people out there who don't mind having to fight every single time, though of course there aren't too many of those. Usually for me it only takes one fight for a person to know they can't fuck with me anymore, I don't think I've ever fought the same person multiple times.


I've actually lost a fight with a bully, and he kept trying to bully me. He stopped after realizing that me losing the fight wasn't going to stop me from fighting him again.

In the end, bullies go for easy targets. They don't want to have to fight someone every time the want to act like a prick. If they did, there'd be a LOT more fights in the world.

Actually observe bullies for a while, remember back to all the ones you've ever known. How often do they actually fuck with people that fight back? How often do they actually fight?

I've known a LOT of tough guys who love fighting.... the thing is, most of them aren't bullies... and those who ARE bullies don't bully people that may be able to kick their ass.


It depends really, I remember back in Middle school there was this one dude who would always fuck with this kid he knew he could beat easily, he'd knock the dude out in a couple of hits everytime but that didn't stop him from fighting. Though I think after the third or fourth fight he got tired of picking on him.

I've had people who tried to "Bully" me while their friends were around after we fought but was acting all cool after they're gone so I'm not sure if that counts as continuous bullying, I mean we didn't ever fight again after that so I guess not.

And that's true a lot of bullies don't fuck with people they know they can't beat.
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Step 1 - Kid gets bullied
Step 2 - Kid tries to deal with it peacefully but without success
Step 3 - Bully's behavior escalates
Step 4 - Kid wants to report to the adults but doesn't want to be a wuss for tattling

This leaves the bully in a position of power. The bully is usually stronger and/or more aggressive, and there might be more than one. Kid is caught between reporting (and looking like a wuss) and trying to look strong by using force.

If he uses force, he gets in trouble. If he reports, he's a wuss.

I think adults here nowadays are way too soft on kids. That's why they're stepping out of bounds all over the place. They need to be forcibly taught to behave since that will drill into their minds that their actions have real consequences.
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Step 1 - Kid gets bullied
Step 2 - Kid tries to deal with it peacefully but without success
Step 3 - Bully's behavior escalates
Step 4 - Kid wants to report to the adults but doesn't want to be a wuss for tattling

This leaves the bully in a position of power.


Gonna fix this for you:

Step 1 - Kid gets bullied
Step 2 - Kid tries to deal with it peacefully but without success
Step 3 - Bully's behavior escalates
Step 4 - Kid reports the bullying and bullying is punished.
Step 5 - Bully becomes smarter and doesn't get caught bullying.
This leaves the bully in a position of power.

My alternative:

Step 1 - Kid gets bullied
Step 2 - Kid tries to deal with it peacefully but without success
Step 3 - Bully's behavior escalates
Step 4 - Kid fights back and wins or loses, and continues to fight, every time the bully tries to bully.
Step 5 - Both kids get in trouble, but the bully learns that he cannot bully this kid and moves on. The "victim" learns that sometimes a little trouble is worth standing up to a bully and that standing up to bullies works.
This leaves the "victim" in the position of power.


Cheers.
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