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Post Reply drawing the line between "average" "fat" and "obese"
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che9458 wrote:

BMI charts don't tell the truth. Muscle Matters. In my opinion if you can run a mile in 7 minutes , your in shape.

Also, if your truly obese you need help.

There's a difference between having a healthy BMI and being fit.
Posted 1/19/16 , edited 1/19/16
I'm 4'11 and I normally stay right at 86lbs. Even if my BMI was heavier or less than it should be. That's just the general BMI for Women my height. Not taking account your genetics and how much you are active.
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Shouldn't there be a different charts for men and women?
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First off.. it should be noted that 'Fat' is not a technical term. You are either Severely underweight, underweight, Average, Overweight or Obese

(I'm going for the male BMI scale)

Severely Underweight is a BMI of less than 17.5

Underweight is a BMI of 18.2-25

Average is classified as a common BMI for your Height/gender. BMI 18.2 to 25

Overweight is a BMI index of 25 to 29.9

Obese is Over 30 BMI.

Most commonly people are slightly overweight or close to overweight. However, that does not completely mean you are 'unhealthy' There are a lot of other factors that go into that alone. I am just answering the question between the differences.

Me personally, I am 6'4 235lbs. Which is a BMI of roughly 28.5. Considered 'Overweight'. However, most of that comes from muscle. So I would never be considered 'Fat'. Which is a very ugly term in general :(.

Either way you should always talk to your doctor if you have any issues concerning your health.
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First off.. it should be noted that 'Fat' is not a technical term. You are either Severely underweight, underweight, Average, Overweight or Obese

(I'm going for the male BMI scale)

Severely Underweight is a BMI of less than 17.5

Underweight is a BMI of 18.2-25

Average is classified as a common BMI for your Height/gender. BMI 18.2 to 25

Overweight is a BMI index of 25 to 29.9

Obese is Over 30 BMI.

Most commonly people are slightly overweight or close to overweight. However, that does not completely mean you are 'unhealthy' There are a lot of other factors that go into that alone. I am just answering the question between the differences.

Me personally, I am 6'4 235lbs. Which is a BMI of roughly 28.5. Considered 'Overweight'. However, most of that comes from muscle. So I would never be considered 'Fat'. Which is a very ugly term in general :(.

Either way you should always talk to your doctor if you have any issues concerning your health.


There's actually a few ways to test BMI that is more accurate than simple weight & height measurements. These account for muscle, and do not include them in your fat.
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Drkhao wrote:

First off.. it should be noted that 'Fat' is not a technical term. You are either Severely underweight, underweight, Average, Overweight or Obese

(I'm going for the male BMI scale)

Severely Underweight is a BMI of less than 17.5

Underweight is a BMI of 18.2-25

Average is classified as a common BMI for your Height/gender. BMI 18.2 to 25

Overweight is a BMI index of 25 to 29.9

Obese is Over 30 BMI.

Most commonly people are slightly overweight or close to overweight. However, that does not completely mean you are 'unhealthy' There are a lot of other factors that go into that alone. I am just answering the question between the differences.

Me personally, I am 6'4 235lbs. Which is a BMI of roughly 28.5. Considered 'Overweight'. However, most of that comes from muscle. So I would never be considered 'Fat'. Which is a very ugly term in general :(.

Either way you should always talk to your doctor if you have any issues concerning your health.


There's actually a few ways to test BMI that is more accurate than simple weight & height measurements. These account for muscle, and do not include them in your fat.


Yea, I realize that. I was just answering the question based on the BMI chart. Which is completely misleading. So many other factors can be included for your health/weight. Like LDLs, HDL's, Blood Pressure, Triglycerides and so much more. I mostly only even took the time to post because of the use of the word 'Fat'. /shrug
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5'5" and 125. Used to be around 110 until I started working out
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i prefer bubbly or fluffy muscles.
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Lol 6'2 at 220. No idea on the percentage of body fat, but it's probably around 10-12%, I know because if I can see abs then it's not going to be higher than 15%.

Anyways this would technically be overweight. #1 that's Bullshit, I mean yeah I could probably lose 20 pounds and not have barely any body fat, but it's literally impossible unless I cut carbs, and a lot of red meat, good luck. Anyways 6'2 at a healthy weight of 180 lbs XD yeah ok. I mean don't get me wrong, you will feel fantastic, and you could run forever, your cardio would be great, and I know this for a fact since I have been 175 lbs at 6'2.

Now here's the thing, I'm not some 220 lbs man who hasn't done a single physical activity in his life. A good part of my life I was a work horse, helping family, doing side jobs, door to door sales, add in 6 years of weight training and workouts, it all adds up for muscle mass. Build a strong foundation and weight shouldn't matter.

In short. If anyone weighs over 300 pounds, you are obese, I know some strong men or body builders closing in on 280 or over 300, but regardless anyone over or at 300 is unhealthy. An average weight for 5"11 - 6'2 would be 160- 180. Anyone over 200 without a weekly routine or workout plan is fat. Growing up with bulky individuals who keep in shape, 220 lbs is nothing to me in terms of being unhealthy.
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Lol 6'2 at 220. No idea on the percentage of body fat, but it's probably around 10-12%, I know because if I can see abs then it's not going to be higher than 15%.

Anyways this would technically be overweight. #1 that's Bullshit, I mean yeah I could probably lose 20 pounds and not have barely any body fat, but it's literally impossible unless I cut carbs, and a lot of red meat, good luck. Anyways 6'2 at a healthy weight of 180 lbs XD yeah ok. I mean don't get me wrong, you will feel fantastic, and you could run forever, your cardio would be great, and I know this for a fact since I have been 175 lbs at 6'2.

Now here's the thing, I'm not some 220 lbs man who hasn't done a single physical activity in his life. A good part of my life I was a work horse, helping family, doing side jobs, door to door sales, add in 6 years of weight training and workouts, it all adds up for muscle mass. Build a strong foundation and weight shouldn't matter.

In short. If anyone weighs over 300 pounds, you are obese, I know some strong men or body builders closing in on 280 or over 300, but regardless anyone over or at 300 is unhealthy. An average weight for 5"11 - 6'2 would be 160- 180. Anyone over 200 without a weekly routine or workout plan is fat. Growing up with bulky individuals who keep in shape, 220 lbs is nothing to me in terms of being unhealthy.


so then what about me who is 5 1 weigh 155 and excersise 3- 5 days a week?
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I'm 5"11 & 150 pounds. Ideally I'd want to gain 15-20 more pounds in muscle cus I feel too skinny.
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Humms wrote:

Lol 6'2 at 220. No idea on the percentage of body fat, but it's probably around 10-12%, I know because if I can see abs then it's not going to be higher than 15%.

Anyways this would technically be overweight. #1 that's Bullshit, I mean yeah I could probably lose 20 pounds and not have barely any body fat, but it's literally impossible unless I cut carbs, and a lot of red meat, good luck. Anyways 6'2 at a healthy weight of 180 lbs XD yeah ok. I mean don't get me wrong, you will feel fantastic, and you could run forever, your cardio would be great, and I know this for a fact since I have been 175 lbs at 6'2.

Now here's the thing, I'm not some 220 lbs man who hasn't done a single physical activity in his life. A good part of my life I was a work horse, helping family, doing side jobs, door to door sales, add in 6 years of weight training and workouts, it all adds up for muscle mass. Build a strong foundation and weight shouldn't matter.

In short. If anyone weighs over 300 pounds, you are obese, I know some strong men or body builders closing in on 280 or over 300, but regardless anyone over or at 300 is unhealthy. An average weight for 5"11 - 6'2 would be 160- 180. Anyone over 200 without a weekly routine or workout plan is fat. Growing up with bulky individuals who keep in shape, 220 lbs is nothing to me in terms of being unhealthy.


so then what about me who is 5 1 weigh 155 and excersise 3- 5 days a week?


That's not bad if you ask me. If you are exercising 3-5 days a weak your body is use to burning and intaking calories. 5'1 that is a pretty big difference in height, and considering the weight, it will say that you would be over weight, but lets be real here. If you keep to a healthy life style, cause I'll be honest, I don't diet, I don't count calories, and I eat what I feel like, but as long as you can stay active that's all that matters.

For me, yeah I could lose 20 pounds because I would look better, and feel better, but as long as I can carry myself without physically being drained, I don't mind. Same goes for you, you're 155 and you exercise 3-5 days a week, in my books that's healthy, I don't care about the weight/height, as long as you feel like you can carry yourself without feeling drained, all the power to you.

if your body is holding you back then it's time for a change. Why do we like to stay in shape? Because me and a lot of others are self conscious, and the simple fact that I love feeling healthy. More energy, more confidence. It's not because we do it for looking good, thats just the outcome of hard work, do it for your health, because that's something you don't want to overlook.

I'm pretty motivational lol, I can't help it!
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I have a BMI of 24.0 or so. I consider myself fat at 5'11" and 165-170 lbs (depends on morning or afternoon, I use morning as it is when I am at my lightest w/o liquid or food in system).

I think a BMI of 23+ would be fat and up from there it gets worse. I consider myself fat (no one does though) because I have a beer belly I need to get working on. I am still more fit than a majority of the USA sadly... (5 miles in 43 minutes wooo).
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Well, if you take things into perspective it depends on how much of your weight is comprised of fat versus muscle.

There are skinnier people with higher fat content (like me), call me skinnyfat, I'm not terribly in shape despite being underweight, and there are also people who could initially be qualified as "fat" based on BMI scales, but theyre actually solid hunks of muscle. It depends.

let's face the facts that are not a whole lot of people over 300 or 400 lbs who are anything but obese, unless they're really tall. and even then, that's PUSHING IT.

If you're essentially the size of a large animal and consume far above the recommended amount of calories a day, then it's safe to assume that you're obese lol.
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You can be fat and NOT be obese, I think? I mean, I guess being referred to as fat is only correct if your body is made up of more fat than anything else?

I keep thinking about the BMI. If you've got extra and you're not considered obese, then I suppose that makes you chubby.
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