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Dvds, standard def t.v..Damn why don't we just all go back to beta-max and low fi t.vs.



What the hell are you even talking about? See, this is why I just use DVD's instead of all this app and streaming stuff. I can't be bothered with all this techy jargon
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What the hell are you even talking about? See, this is why I just use DVD's instead of all this app and streaming stuff. I can't be bothered with all this techy jargon


Beta-max, it was the industry standard before VHS became big, which itself was the the industry standard before DvDs. And low fi TVs, ya know the kind that got like 280p at best...What are you like 12, that isn't jargon. Jargon is a 12 core processor mated with dual Titan X graphics cards and 14 gigs of DDR4 and ssd.
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Beta-max, it was the industry standard before VHS became big, which itself was the the industry standard before DvDs. And low fi TVs, ya know the kind that got like 280p at best...What are you like 12, that isn't jargon. Jargon is a 12 core processor mated with dual Titan X graphics cards and 14 gigs of DDR4 and ssd.


Well beta-max and VHS don't get used anymore and are not even an option so that's not relevant.

And everything you said after that was complete jibberish. I'll stick to dvd's thank you. I can't be bothered buying into this technology if I need to learna new language to understand it.
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eclair-lumiere wrote:


Well beta-max and VHS don't get used anymore and are not even an option so that's not relevant.

And everything you said after that was complete gibberish. I'll stick to dvd's thank you. I can't be bothered buying into this technology if I need to learn a new language to understand it.



Lady ya should see the terminology we soldiers boys use if ya think that's bad. Honestly at this point if weren't for acronyms and shorthand terminology my head would likely explode.

Regardless, this is the 21st century tech expertise is practically a requirement unless ya plan on going all cave dwelling hermit. I mean you're using a PC, laptop, smartphone, or tablet right now are you not?
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Lady ya should see the terminology we soldiers boys use if ya think that's bad. Honestly at this point if weren't for acronyms and shorthand terminology my head would likely explode.

Regardless, this is the 21st century tech expertise is practically a requirement unless ya plan on going all cave dwelling hermit. I mean you're using a PC, laptop, smartphone, or tablet right now are you not?




I'm using a PC right now. Some of the jargon for PC's and laptops annoy me but I use them because I need them. But all this jargon to do with TV's annoy me. It seems like a load of bollocks made up to make people spend more money. I can't see any difference between normal DVD and Blu-ray. Yet I was browsing amazon the other day and the standard DVD was about £40 and the blu-ray (with the same amount of dics) was £140. Come on... there's no way even if it clearer that it's worth an extra £100.
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I'm using a PC right now. Some of the jargon for PC's and laptops annoy me but I use them because I need them. But all this jargon to do with TV's annoy me. It seems like a load of bollocks made up to make people spend more money. I can't see any difference between normal DVD and Blu-ray. Yet I was browsing amazon the other day and the standard DVD was about £40 and the blu-ray (with the same amount of dics) was £140. Come on... there's no way even if it clearer that it's worth an extra £100.


Personally for me it's less an definition issue and a frame rate issue. Blu-rays tend to hold a very nice and steady 60 to 70 fps where a lot of DvDs can fall into the sub 40 fps range. That being said I prefer the 4k screen I've got over 1080p.
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Personally for me it's less an definition issue and a frame rate issue. Blu-rays tend to hold a very nice and steady 60 to 70 fps where a lot of DvDs can fall into the sub 40 fps range. That being said I prefer the 4k screen I've got over 1080p.


This is why I believe it's rubbish. No one can explain it in plain English. Do any of you even know what you're buying?

Also, if blu-ray is so awesome, why do they need to sell DVD/Blu-ray combo packs but put the logo for blu-ray so tiny and squeezed into the corner that you don't even realise you are buying blu-ray as well?
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eclair-lumiere wrote:

This is why I believe it's rubbish. No one can explain it in plain English. Do any of you even know what you're buying?

Also, if blu-ray is so awesome, why do they need to sell DVD/Blu-ray combo packs but put the logo for blu-ray so tiny and squeezed into the corner that you don't even realise you are buying blu-ray as well?


To interject with plain English, blu-rays can hold more stuff on it than dvds. You could have 10 movies on one blu-ray, or maybe just one better quality one.

They do blu-ray/dvd combos so that people who own dvd players will eventually have a lot of blu-ray discs as well, making it easier to buy into blu-ray machines, because they now have a collection of blu-ray discs.. if they're still doing it, like 5 years after blu-ray then it must be still working I guess.
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This is why I believe it's rubbish. No one can explain it in plain English. Do any of you even know what you're buying?

Also, if blu-ray is so awesome, why do they need to sell DVD/Blu-ray combo packs but put the logo for blu-ray so tiny and squeezed into the corner that you don't even realise you are buying blu-ray as well?


Okay here it is as dumb down I as can manage with the current vocabulary available to me. Definition is defined by the amount of pixels in a given area. A pixel can be roughly defined as a piece of the puzzle. The more of them you cram in a given area the better the resulting image they make will look. This is of course much easier to discern when the pixel difference is much more vast, say between 480p and 1080p.

Of course there is a human limit to how well we can tell the difference. This is determined by wouldn't ya know how good your peepers are. But even at 20/20 vision the absolute limit is 4000p or 4k for short.

Frame per second or FPS for short is a term meaning how many still images occupy a given second of film time. After all a movie or anime or anything visual wise is really made of still images passing before our eyes quickly. The more images that occupy a given second of film time the clearer and sharper the image will look.

As with pixels there is a human limit and that limit is 120 fps.

And so in combination if you're vision is 20/20 the best technology can do for you is 4k at 120 fps which is what I like to game at when playing an MMO or RPG ya dig.

As for their marketing strategy I can't comment on that, my skills lay else where,
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To interject with plain English, blu-rays can hold more stuff on it than dvds. You could have 10 movies on one blu-ray, or maybe just one better quality one.

They do blu-ray/dvd combos so that people who own dvd players will eventually have a lot of blu-ray discs as well, making it easier to buy into blu-ray machines, because they now have a collection of blu-ray discs.. if they're still doing it, like 5 years after blu-ray then it must be still working I guess.


Thank you for explaining it simply. I can see why having a blu-ray box set might be beneficial then. Less discs means it takes up less space.

Even so, the blu-ray/dvd combo thing seems like a very sneaky and devious way of tricking people into buying blu-ray.
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Okay here it is as dumb down I as can manage with the current vocabulary available to me. Definition is defined by the amount of pixels in a given area. A pixel can be roughly defined as a piece of the puzzle. The more of them you cram in a given area the better the resulting image they make will look. This is of course much easier to discern when the pixel difference is much more vast, say between 480p and 1080p.

Of course there is a human limit to how well we can tell the difference. This is determined by wouldn't ya know how good your peepers are. But even at 20/20 vision the absolute limit is 4000p or 4k for short.

Frame per second or FPS for short is a term meaning how many still images occupy a given second of film time. After all a movie or anime or anything visual wise is really made of still images passing before our eyes quickly. The more images that occupy a given second of film time the clearer and sharper the image will look.

As with pixels there is a human limit and that limit is 120 fps.

And so in combination if you're vision is 20/20 the best technology can do for you is 4k at 120 fps which is what I like to game at when playing an MMO or RPG ya dig.

As for their marketing strategy I can't comment on that, my skills lay else where,


That makes more sense now. I always wondered what on earth this "480p" and "1020p" thing was. But even if blu-ray is clearer because it has more pixels, it really doesn't look much clearer to me. Although I don't have very good vision. But considering I have a massive HD TV, any DVD will look amazing so blu-ray isn't necessary.

As for the marketing strategy, well I've noticed a few tricks they use in the UK DVD industry. For example, bringing out the "complete collection" but it isn't actually complete. Then later bringing it out again, this time including OVA's so some people end up buying it twice
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Get an arm sbc and install xbmc on it.
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Ranwolf wrote: Personally I never saw the point of anything like the Roku.. I mean it's not like there isn't a million other things that do the same job and better to boot.
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LOOK AT THE REVIEWS ON CNET....Roku is always in the ! or 2 spots.


anikevin wrote:Xbox streaming master race.
I had a Roku, but I got rid of it because CR took too long to update the app.



CR on Roku is way faster loading now and much easier to use. I use Roku 3 now but will wait for the 5.
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