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Posted 1/20/16 , edited 1/20/16

TRKitsune wrote:

Isn't the human form kind of......inferior for robotics design?

What's even the tactical advantage for a human-like soldier?


Can't be EMP or hack.
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Not sure what's more scary... aliens, robots, or VR.
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Not sure what's more scary... aliens, robots, or VR.


robots imo, its easier to just blow up aliens, robots could hack your entire system/grid and we are very reliant on computer/electric based things
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I don't firmly believe that. I do believe however if you were to create an AI and then treated it like nothing but a tool or try to kill it then you would have a problem. If you try kill something sentient or enslave it, it will turn on you. History has proven that over and over.
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Posted 1/20/16

TRKitsune wrote:

Isn't the human form kind of......inferior for robotics design?

What's even the tactical advantage for a human-like soldier?


Maybe it lures its opponents into a false sense of security. Like going in for a handshake and then ripping off your arm.

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Sorry, that thought was a bit disturbing.
Posted 1/20/16

TRKitsune wrote:

Isn't the human form kind of......inferior for robotics design?

What's even the tactical advantage for a human-like soldier?


An image of fear put in to the mind of the enemy. People will perceive it as humanoids killing humans and the vision of it will mark them. It can be intimidating or scarring. If a giant hunk of metal stood before you with guns pointed it wouldn't be as scary as if you gave it a human face with eyes to peer right into yours.
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Stephen Hawking is a legit scientist, but calling him "the smartest science guy on Earth" is ridiculous. These days he's more celebrity than scientist. He's done a lot of good work to promote science and get everyday people interested, and that is important. He likes to speak in broad terms about highly theoretical ideas. It makes for great TV and books, but not much else.
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Posted 1/20/16 , edited 1/20/16

bri-kun_kee-chan wrote:


TRKitsune wrote:

Isn't the human form kind of......inferior for robotics design?

What's even the tactical advantage for a human-like soldier?


An image of fear put in to the mind of the enemy. People will perceive it as humanoids killing humans and the vision of it will mark them. It can be intimidating or scarring. If a giant hunk of metal stood before you with guns pointed it wouldn't be as scary as if you gave it a human face with eyes to peer right into yours.


In war, a flesh and blood soldier from the other side would still be your enemy regardless, though. And some people already come out of that with mental scars.

From a humanism standpoint, you might as well continue using humans to combat human psyche by that logic.
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Posted 1/20/16
Stephen hawking is becoming an idiot in his old age.

He is warning us to not search for aliens
Warning us NOT to progress technologically

He wants the race to stagnate and stay in place because of his fear.


There is three options for the future

1. We all die (his fear)
2.singularity / we become a stronger civilization (the alternative)

or option 3 which stephen hawking wants: Stagnation (which eventually leads to death anyhow)

Heck in my opinion i would rather take the chance at becoming an improved civilization and die then give up and die in a few thousand years.
Posted 1/20/16

Ryulightorb wrote:

Stephen hawking is becoming an idiot in his old age.

He is warning us to not search for aliens
Warning us NOT to progress technologically

He wants the race to stagnate and stay in place because of his fear.


There is three options for the future

1. We all die (his fear)
2.singularity / we become a stronger civilization (the alternative)

or option 3 which stephen hawking wants: Stagnation (which eventually leads to death anyhow)

Heck in my opinion i would rather take the chance at becoming an improved civilization and die then give up and die in a few thousand years.


Unless we get hit by a gamma ray burst.
Posted 1/20/16
Alien robots anyone?
Posted 1/20/16

TRKitsune wrote:


bri-kun_kee-chan wrote:


TRKitsune wrote:

Isn't the human form kind of......inferior for robotics design?

What's even the tactical advantage for a human-like soldier?


An image of fear put in to the mind of the enemy. People will perceive it as humanoids killing humans and the vision of it will mark them. It can be intimidating or scarring. If a giant hunk of metal stood before you with guns pointed it wouldn't be as scary as if you gave it a human face with eyes to peer right into yours.


In war, a flesh and blood soldier from the other side would still be your enemy regardless, though. And some people already come out of that with mental scars.

From a humanism standpoint, you might as well continue using humans to combat human psyche by that logic.


So you rather have an army made of only robots? Because at that point, we are asking for to be exterminated.
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Artificial intelligence isn't the problem. Sentient-machines ruling and enslaving the human race is the problem. But before any of this happens we will already have be overrun as in Planet of the Apes.
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Posted 1/20/16 , edited 1/20/16

KarenAraragi wrote:


TRKitsune wrote:


bri-kun_kee-chan wrote:


TRKitsune wrote:

Isn't the human form kind of......inferior for robotics design?

What's even the tactical advantage for a human-like soldier?


An image of fear put in to the mind of the enemy. People will perceive it as humanoids killing humans and the vision of it will mark them. It can be intimidating or scarring. If a giant hunk of metal stood before you with guns pointed it wouldn't be as scary as if you gave it a human face with eyes to peer right into yours.


In war, a flesh and blood soldier from the other side would still be your enemy regardless, though. And some people already come out of that with mental scars.

From a humanism standpoint, you might as well continue using humans to combat human psyche by that logic.


So you rather have an army made of only robots? Because at that point, we are asking for to be exterminated.


No, robots make sense for war, as do humans.

I just meant that bri-kun_kee-chan's reasoning for using robots for affecting human psyche seems a bit misplaced, when that side-effect of war on people is already a given.

Either would still be quite applicable for combat itself.
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War is stupid.
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