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Posted 1/23/16

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Ahhhhh, I missed Sarteck.


How could you not? He's like a wittier, sexier version of me. Facts.
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Hi guys, I need some help.

I've been informed by many people that I get inherent privileges for being a white male, and in particular that an organization called "the Patriarchy" will give me lots of support.

I was wondering if any of you knew who I would have to get in touch with in order to receive my benefits package and/or Patriarchy ID card. (I've looked at partiarchy.org and .com, but they're both just parked domain names.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avu5NT1ZYT8


Whoa there buddy, you have to be a Heterosexual White male with a great career, strong family values,and make at least 2x your female counterparts. Just being white isnt enough. Check your privilege bro
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Posted 1/23/16

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ayaundwolf wrote:


Ahhhhh, I missed Sarteck.


How could you not? He's like a wittier, sexier version of me. Facts.


Hehe. It's a shame we all can't be natural comedians.
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Posted 1/23/16 , edited 1/23/16
You're right, it's all about the money.

So the question becomes: Why do white people control most of the wealth? Answer that and you will have found the essence of so called "white privilege". It has a lot to do with the history of systematic oppression and discrimination against minorities that has only recently been ended under the law, and still exists in many our social and economic systems.

That's not to say that there aren't poor white people, or that classism isn't a problem in itself. But you can't just remove race from the equation.
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Posted 1/23/16

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sarteck wrote:

Hi guys, I need some help.

I've been informed by many people that I get inherent privileges for being a white male, and in particular that an organization called "the Patriarchy" will give me lots of support.

I was wondering if any of you knew who I would have to get in touch with in order to receive my benefits package and/or Patriarchy ID card. (I've looked at partiarchy.org and .com, but they're both just parked domain names.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avu5NT1ZYT8


Whoa there buddy, you have to be a Heterosexual White male with a great career, strong family values,and make at least 2x your female counterparts. Just being white isnt enough. Check your privilege bro


But, but, modern feminists always tell me differently! They tell me all I need is something dangling between my legs. Are you trying to imply that they're wrong?




ayaundwolf wrote:


HolyDrumstick wrote:


ayaundwolf wrote:


Ahhhhh, I missed Sarteck.


How could you not? He's like a wittier, sexier version of me. Facts.


Hehe. It's a shame we all can't be natural comedians.


Aww, you guys are embarrassing me. XD (No, seriously, I didn't even realize I was missed, but that's four or five people so far that have said so, hah.)




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You're right, it's all about the money.

So the question becomes: Why do white people control most of the wealth? Answer that and you will have found the essence of so called "white privilege". It has a lot to do with the history of systematic oppression against minorities that has only recently been ended under the law, and still exists in many our social and economic systems.

That's not to say that there aren't poor white people, or that classism isn't a problem in itself. But you can't just remove race from the equation.


Actually, you can quite easily remove race from the equation.

If you are NOT automatically privileged by being white, then white privilege does not exist.

That's fundamentally true. If you are not privileged, then you are not privileged.
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Posted 1/24/16 , edited 1/24/16

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Well, I'm not sure how it works in other countries, but in America, I'm pretty sure you get signed up automatically at birth for an opt-out only program where benefits are delivered directly to you automatically until you inform the distributor you no longer wish to receive them. As I understand it, however, the distributors have roughly the attention span of an email-spam campaign, and will continue sending benefits as though the 'unsubscribe' button you pressed never actually existed, leading many to believe that, in fact, internet spam is completely normal and not worth the trouble of getting rid of. Most people, as I understand it, have a program that automatically files it in a seperate folder so that, these days, most people don't even see how much spam they still receive. At least, that's how I understand it.


Hmm, I think the Patriarchy Database must have missed my brother and me, because we don't seem to enjoy any more benefits than our sister does.

Unless... Do women have a "Matriarchy" organization that grants them privileges and benefits as well? If so, then maybe that's why we cannot see the differences.


Well, much like spam, the Patriarchy doesn't really offer anything of much importance anymore, and often leaves viruses. From what I've heard, they were once one of the biggest organizations out there, but now, they've cut benefits so much you might as well ignore them. Most of their duties have passed on to some group called "the 1%." Apparently, they're a bit more selective but -- again this is just what I've heard -- you're set for life if you can get in.

As to the Matriarchy organization, I'm not very informed on that issue, but I've heard there was a startup in the 60's that has been slowly expanding production over the last couple of decades or so. From what I've heard however, the organization claims that it's members don't receive any benefits, which, from a business perspective, would seem to make it a bit of a failure.
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Posted 1/24/16 , edited 1/24/16

kinga750 wrote:

You're right, it's all about the money.

So the question becomes: Why do white people control most of the wealth? Answer that and you will have found the essence of so called "white privilege". It has a lot to do with the history of systematic oppression and discrimination against minorities that has only recently been ended under the law, and still exists in many our social and economic systems.

That's not to say that there aren't poor white people, or that classism isn't a problem in itself. But you can't just remove race from the equation.


Considering that only 1% of the population controls the bulk of the wealth, and the fact that much of it was inherited... those statistics mean almost jack shit.

Seriously, that means that 99% of all races are in the same MFing boat.

It's called perspective.
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Posted 1/24/16

sarteck wrote:

Actually, you can quite easily remove race from the equation.

If you are NOT automatically privileged by being white, then white privilege does not exist.

That's fundamentally true. If you are not privileged, then you are not privileged.


I think "white privilege" is a poor choice of words. I don't like the term at all. As a white person, you have none of the disadvantages a minority has solely because of their race. I think that is what the term is about. That doesn't mean you automatically have it easy, or that you aren't at a disadvantage for some other reason though.
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On wealth, the top 1% control more than the bottom 90% combined. Even the difference in wealth between the top 1% and top 10% is over 1000%.
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I think "white privilege" is a poor choice of words. I don't like the term at all. As a white person, you have none of the disadvantages a minority has solely because of their race. I think that is what the term is about. That doesn't mean you automatically have it easy, or that you aren't at a disadvantage for some other reason though.


But that still implies the exact same thing; namely, that I enjoy privileges because of the fact that I'm white that people with more melanin in their skin do not.

Will I be the one to get a job because of my skin color/gender? A scholarship? A library card? Is it easier for me to attend school? Are my grades automatically better?

Certainly, if I am born to a rich or even middle class family, I'll have more advantages in life than someone born into a poor black family. But the reverse is also true; if I am born into a rich black family, I have more advantages than being born into a poor white family. (Looking at you, Jonathan Butler!)

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Considering that only 1% of the population controls the bulk of the wealth, and the fact that much of it was inherited... those statistics mean almost jack shit.

Seriously, that means that 99% of all races are in the same MFing boat.

It's called perspective.



sarteck wrote:

But that still implies the exact same thing; namely, that I enjoy privileges because of the fact that I'm white that people with more melanin in their skin do not.

Will I be the one to get a job because of my skin color/gender? A scholarship? A library card? Is it easier for me to attend school? Are my grades automatically better?

Certainly, if I am born to a rich or even middle class family, I'll have more advantages in life than someone born into a poor black family. But the reverse is also true; if I am born into a rich black family, I have more advantages than being born into a poor white family. (Looking at you, Jonathan Butler!)




I agree that classism and the wealth gap is a major problem, and that many white people are disadvantaged by it. Just because there is classism doesn't mean that racism isn't a problem though. The fact that whites have inherited so much wealth, and collectively control such a huge percentage of it highlights the systemic nature of racism. I also think we have made a lot of progress in racial equality. But it is recent progress, and there is still a lot do. It will take generations before we can entirely put it behind us.
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On wealth, the top 1% control more than the bottom 90% combined. Even the difference in wealth between the top 1% and top 10% is over 1000%.


I see this thrown around a lot, and while the principle is true (that the richest people own quite a lot), the figures are false.

According to a 2007 study ( http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html ), the top 1% owns approximately 34.6% of the wealth in the United States.

According to the same study, the top 20% own approximately 85% of all the wealth.

(It's actually a prime reason why Bernie Sanders' economics are fail.)


kinga750 wrote:

I agree that classism and the wealth gap is a major problem, and that many white people are disadvantaged by it. Just because there is classism doesn't mean that racism isn't a problem though. The fact that whites have inherited so much wealth, and collectively control such a huge percentage of it highlights the systemic nature of racism.


I completely agree that it doesn't mean that racism isn't a problem. However, that has nothing to do with the price of tea in China. Being "privileged" infers that a member of the privileged group automatically enjoys benefits unavailable to those who do not belong to the group.

One could argue that assuming someone enjoys more privilege because of their skin color itself is racist.
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Posted 1/24/16

kinga750 wrote:
I agree that classism and the wealth gap is a major problem, and that many white people are disadvantaged by it. Just because there is classism doesn't mean that racism isn't a problem though. The fact that whites have inherited so much wealth, and collectively control such a huge percentage of it highlights the systemic nature of racism. I also think we have made a lot of progress in racial equality. But it is recent progress, and there is still a lot do. It will take generations before we can entirely put it behind us.


LOL. You're an _____. You do realize that inherited wealth has nothing to do with racism or systems in general. People from older generations had money, and they passed it to their kids. That's all.

Not to mention, we're literally talking about 1% of the population.

If you really think that 1% of the population constitutes racism in any form, you're a fucking moron. Sorry. That's just reality.
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sarteck wrote:
I completely agree that it doesn't mean that racism isn't a problem. However, that has nothing to do with the price of tea in China. Being "privileged" infers that a member of the privileged group automatically enjoys benefits unavailable to those who do not belong to the group.

One could argue that assuming someone enjoys more privilege because of their skin color itself is racist.


Like I said I think privilege is a terrible choice of words. I don't think the term is entirely appropriate anymore. The term "white privilege" annoys me to be honest. It doesn't give enough credit to the progress we have made so far. 200, 100, even 50 years ago it made a lot more sense though. That's not a long time when you are talking about fundamentally changing the way society operates, especially since our current systems were built upon a rotten foundation.
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Also.... if you REALLY want to get down to privileges based on race..... trust me when I say there are a ton of benefits ONLY available to minorities etc. There are all sorts of scholarships, benefits, privileges, etc that specifically exclude white males.

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