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AES-256 is a very strong form of encryption and there's no way to easily crack it other than through brute-force as far as i know.
unless you use something trivial for the password, like "admin", "123456789", etc.


OpenSSL's implmentation of AES is pretty awful IIRC.
Posted 1/26/16

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I should have no google that sir. Well time to delete my history.

Futa Rainbow Dash collection


To be perfectly honest, I'm not into Rainbow Dash, she's just the "popular one" everyone knows in the series.

I have a thing for Trixie, Rarity, and even Princess Luna, though.



So are you a Brony? annnnnnnnnd why are people so obsessed with My Little Pony?

I am no judging here, just curious.
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Why are you resorting to name calling and insults. I didn't say anything to insult you. Also, it may be that you don't use your phone to do financials, but there are an increasing number of services for shopping, banking and other types of transactions that are done over the phone, and they have many, many millions of customers who use them. Look at all of the Bank of America, Wells Fargo, etc, etc etc ads promoting their phone apps to make banking easier and more convenient....

The reason I care so much is because government has been steadily eroding our Constitution, and our Bill of Rights. I served in the Marine Corps for 12 years, and served in a couple of hot spots including in Saudi Arabia and in Kuwait during the first Golf War, so I REALLY CARE about the way our government is chiseling away at the very foundation of our liberty.

If you've served in the U.S. armed forces, they you should recall your oath to defend the Constitution of the United States. This is my way of continuing the fight of protecting our basic liberties, even after leaving military service. I do what I can to spread the word, and call on my fellow citizens to take action by writing their congress people about it. Just because I am no longer serving in the Marine Corps does not mean that I want my efforts to defend the Constitution to go to waste, and watch my own government destroy our very own Constitution and our Bill of Rights.

This is how I feel about it. It's not about the insults you hurled at me.


Am I little forceful in how I present myself, perhaps but I don't think it's worth the effort to change. After all you and I both have earned the right to express ourselves. Secondly I am Canadian, it says it right there under my avatar. In my country we are free to speak as we see fit as long as we aren't shouting Nazi propaganda from the Parliament steps or etc ya dig.

Thirdly I fought with the ISAF forces in Afghanistan and it's precisely because of that I think your opposition to this bill is ridiculous. Everywhere I went in that sand blasted hell hole I found examples of technology like smartphones, tablets, laptops and etc being used by the camel jockeys. And the intel on them was simply astonishing, not to mention the way it clearly shows how they were using the outdated charter of rights of various countries to commit their horrendous deeds practically right out in the open.

I mean it's more then amply proven their level of hatred for us is deep enough they'll spend years living in our countries, using various forms of technology to keep in check with their human trash compatriots back home. Some of which include the various wireless devices we have. And they can do this because bleeding heart liberals like yourself are defending the rights that keep their personal data safe.

This is the 21st century mate, you're going to have to get use to the idea the rights written by your founding fathers can't survive the ever sophisticated understanding of your countries enemies. Or do we have to have even more blood on our hands due to some antiquated belief in the basic decency of mankind?
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Posted 1/26/16

KarenAraragi wrote:


sarteck wrote:


KarenAraragi wrote:

I should have no google that sir. Well time to delete my history.

Futa Rainbow Dash collection


To be perfectly honest, I'm not into Rainbow Dash, she's just the "popular one" everyone knows in the series.

I have a thing for Trixie, Rarity, and even Princess Luna, though.



So are you a Brony? annnnnnnnnd why are people so obsessed with My Little Pony?

I am no judging here, just curious.


Well, I can only speak for myself, not every other Brony out there, but yup, I like it. A lot even. Used to be semi-active in the fandom. (Even coded some shit.) For me, it wasn't some obsession, for others it was.

It's kind of like anime fans... We all like different aspects of anime for different reasons, yeah? And some of us get really obsessed?

Well, imagine a non-anime fan asking the same thing? Heh heh. Same idea, except our Chinese cartoon happens to have ponays.

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Thirdly I fought with the ISAF forces in Afghanistan and it's precisely because of that I think your opposition to this bill is ridiculous. Everywhere I went in that sand blasted hell hole I found examples of technology like smartphones, tablets, laptops and etc being used by the camel jockeys. And the intel on them was simply astonishing, not to mention the way it clearly shows how they were using the outdated charter of rights of various countries to commit their horrendous deeds practically right out in the open.


The bills have absolutely nothing to do with technology used in warzones. Not even the politicians are trying to stretch it like you are, and that's saying something.
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It works! I guess I can carry on with my life now.
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Posted 1/26/16

sarteck wrote:


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Thirdly I fought with the ISAF forces in Afghanistan and it's precisely because of that I think your opposition to this bill is ridiculous. Everywhere I went in that sand blasted hell hole I found examples of technology like smartphones, tablets, laptops and etc being used by the camel jockeys. And the intel on them was simply astonishing, not to mention the way it clearly shows how they were using the outdated charter of rights of various countries to commit their horrendous deeds practically right out in the open.


The bills have absolutely nothing to do with technology used in warzones. Not even the politicians are trying to stretch it like you are, and that's saying something.


I love people who always try to take things out of context. I never said it did, by the time such tech reaches a warzone it's already too late to do anything about it. I am more focused on their friends who live within our borders, using the efforts of bleeding heart liberals to maintain their communications and what not with the camel jockeys shooting back at us.
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Well I cannot unsee this now.
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Why are you resorting to name calling and insults. I didn't say anything to insult you. Also, it may be that you don't use your phone to do financials, but there are an increasing number of services for shopping, banking and other types of transactions that are done over the phone, and they have many, many millions of customers who use them. Look at all of the Bank of America, Wells Fargo, etc, etc etc ads promoting their phone apps to make banking easier and more convenient....

The reason I care so much is because government has been steadily eroding our Constitution, and our Bill of Rights. I served in the Marine Corps for 12 years, and served in a couple of hot spots including in Saudi Arabia and in Kuwait during the first Golf War, so I REALLY CARE about the way our government is chiseling away at the very foundation of our liberty.

If you've served in the U.S. armed forces, they you should recall your oath to defend the Constitution of the United States. This is my way of continuing the fight of protecting our basic liberties, even after leaving military service. I do what I can to spread the word, and call on my fellow citizens to take action by writing their congress people about it. Just because I am no longer serving in the Marine Corps does not mean that I want my efforts to defend the Constitution to go to waste, and watch my own government destroy our very own Constitution and our Bill of Rights.

This is how I feel about it. It's not about the insults you hurled at me.


Am I little forceful in how I present myself, perhaps but I don't think it's worth the effort to change. After all you and I both have earned the right to express ourselves. Secondly I am Canadian, it says it right there under my avatar. In my country we are free to speak as we see fit as long as we aren't shouting Nazi propaganda from the Parliament steps or etc ya dig.

Thirdly I fought with the ISAF forces in Afghanistan and it's precisely because of that I think your opposition to this bill is ridiculous. Everywhere I went in that sand blasted hell hole I found examples of technology like smartphones, tablets, laptops and etc being used by the camel jockeys. And the intel on them was simply astonishing, not to mention the way it clearly shows how they were using the outdated charter of rights of various countries to commit their horrendous deeds practically right out in the open.

I mean it's more then amply proven their level of hatred for us is deep enough they'll spend years living in our countries, using various forms of technology to keep in check with their human trash compatriots back home. Some of which include the various wireless devices we have. And they can do this because bleeding heart liberals like yourself are defending the rights that keep their personal data safe.

This is the 21st century mate, you're going to have to get use to the idea the rights written by your founding fathers can't survive the ever sophisticated understanding of your countries enemies. Or do we have to have even more blood on our hands due to some antiquated belief in the basic decency of mankind?



I am NOT a liberal.
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well in Canada you can't even write a tweet without fear of being sent to years in prison, be several hundred thousand dollars in debt and not able to work. some people living there might not care about violations of privacy and whatnot, since they never had it to begin with.
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well in Canada you can't even write a tweet without fear of being sent to years in prison, be several hundred thousand dollars in debt and not able to work. some people living there might not care about violations of privacy and whatnot, since they never had it to begin with.


Let's be fair, he didn't go to prison... He was just assumed guilty and not allowed to access the Internet AT ALL, which his livelihood depended on.
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I am NOT a liberal.


Well I really hate to say this to a fellow soldier but you're talking like one, your opinions and viewpoints thus far make you sound like one. And the fact you think personal freedoms and liberties should take precedence over national and indeed international security are kinda a nail in that coffin ya dig.

Personal rights are all fine and dandy. But we can't pretend this world is full of basically decent people. There are endless examples of monsters living amongst us, using the rights your 'liberal' alter ego is defending to go unnoticed. I mean unless ya think all the brothers and sisters we've buried were killed by the common cold. This is a world were the anonymity of cyber space is the prefect playing field for those smart enough and depraved enough to commit great harm upon the very fabric of our various countries.
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I find it amusing that you are comparing our countries to that shithole. You really think you are going to find somebody that bad by randomly picking on people phones? By that logic, China crime rate will be lower than the US.
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Posted 1/26/16

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DeadlyOats wrote:



I am NOT a liberal.


Well I really hate to say this to a fellow soldier but you're talking like one, your opinions and viewpoints thus far make you sound like one. And the fact you think personal freedoms and liberties should take precedence over national and indeed international security are kinda a nail in that coffin ya dig.

Personal rights are all fine and dandy. But we can't pretend this world is full of basically decent people. There are endless examples of monsters living amongst us, using the rights your 'liberal' alter ego is defending to go unnoticed. I mean unless ya think all the brothers and sisters we've buried were killed by the common cold. This is a world were the anonymity of cyber space is the prefect playing field for those smart enough and depraved enough to commit great harm upon the very fabric of our various countries.


It's kind of funny, because I feel the same as he, and I am also not "leftist" or "liberal" or "progressive" or whatever they call it nowadays.

I really don't see most matters in "right" or "left" myself, though.
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Posted 1/26/16

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I find it amusing that you are comparing our countries to that shithole. You really think you are going to find somebody that bad by randomly picking on people phones? By that logic, China crime rate will be lower than the US.


I suppose you're just pointedly going to ignore the fact most terrorist acts committed on First World soil were done so by people whose residency records go back years if not decades. They weren't done by refugees new to the country or special kill squads flown in for that purpose alone.
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